If he thinks he can use martial law to hold power he has another think coming.
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If he thinks he can use martial law to hold power he has another think coming.
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Texas_tea
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That's exactly what I think!
so I surmised. do you really think the Pentagon will allow that ? they are pledged to defend the country from all enemies foreign OR domestic. If BO is deemed the enemy... lets just say its a short bloodless fight. along with a stunning number of other potential conflict scenarios they have and constantly revise is this one. and there is a process for determining the action.
Texas_tea
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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/martin-zimmerman-witness-758903
A witness told Florida cops that he saw Trayvon Martin straddling George Zimmerman and pummeling the neighborhood watch captain “MMA style” shortly before the unarmed teen was felled by a gunshot to the chest.
The witness’s account was included in Sanford Police Department reports released today.
Interviewed by cops about 90 minutes after the shooting, the witness--whose name was redacted from police documents--said that he was inside his home when he heard a “commotion coming from the walk way” behind his residence.
A witness told Florida cops that he saw Trayvon Martin straddling George Zimmerman and pummeling the neighborhood watch captain “MMA style” shortly before the unarmed teen was felled by a gunshot to the chest.
The witness’s account was included in Sanford Police Department reports released today.
Interviewed by cops about 90 minutes after the shooting, the witness--whose name was redacted from police documents--said that he was inside his home when he heard a “commotion coming from the walk way” behind his residence.
Dr.Who
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Compliance is rarely the result of forcing ones own military to agree with dictators. Throughout history soldiers have often done what they would rather not. Compliance of the military is built into the system from day one. There is a limit to what a dictator can get them to do but within the bounds of what they can be made to do an awful lot can be accomplished.
I had an interesting real life experience on the compliance of police officers yesterday. I got stopped for going to fast in a work zone. Silly me I thought that if there were no workers that the regular speed limit would apply. The police man told me that he could not just give me a warning because all of his actions are filmed. so instead of giving me the fine for the work zone he gave me a regular speeding ticket (am am somewhat doubtful that i was going over the regular limit but I was not going to complain when I was being given a deal) . So why did the state feel the need to fine people $375 for work zone speeding? because in the words of the officer: their cones were getting knocked over. I am glad that the regular ticket was much less draconian.
So do I thknk that Obama is actively planning to become a dictator? No. if things worked out that way would be allow it? I think he would.
Because of history the military is no longer doing it that way. Soldiers can disobey an order if they feel its illegal (and they're well trained on that point). It fits into the "Army of One" campaign a few years back. As part of becoming a professional Army, decision making is allowed right down to that lone GI. As my buddy the retired Army guy said by way of example, "do you really think a fighter pilot will strafe a bunch of civilians in a US city ?". I used to see it your way too but got educated otherwise.
Dr.Who
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No i dont think a pilot would do that. Neither do I think he would ever be asked.
What is a more likely scenario is that a soldier would be posted outside of a voting place to screen for terrorists using a rubric that was not at all racial profiling but instead just happened to result in the wrong people being detained just long enough so that they missed their chance to vote. This would be just one example among many and a slow encroachemt on rights would be ever advancing.
steveox
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This isnt gonna be a long trial its gonna be fast and found not guilty
rulers elsewhere have sent their aircraft in to do crowd control, Libya for example.
Dr.Who
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Do you believe that could happen here?
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Moby76065
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It's sad just how far back this president has set our country regarding race.
I was never a racist. Honestly, I seriously just saw a man and his character. Where I grew up it was a box of crayons. All colors.
We were kids. We never thought that way. We rode bicycles in the woods and ate marshmellows caught fogs, etc.
I can't really say that now. Almost every black person I know is slobbering all over Obama who is a total failure and an America hater.
I served this nation. I took an Oath. And the constition is looked at like a door mat now. Blatent constitutional violations with no response because everyone is afraid the minorities will riot. Like the OJ Simson deal. We let a know killer go because of fear.
I no longer see a man. I see a black man. I instantly think an Obama supporter, a racsist, someone out to get his from whitey.
It saddens me deeply. I never felt this way before. I don't like the thoughts that instantly jump in my head. America is a different place now.
I carry a gun everywhere I go now. And my town is a safe little town in Texas. I don't like the way our country is going. Not one bit.
I was never a racist. Honestly, I seriously just saw a man and his character. Where I grew up it was a box of crayons. All colors.
We were kids. We never thought that way. We rode bicycles in the woods and ate marshmellows caught fogs, etc.
I can't really say that now. Almost every black person I know is slobbering all over Obama who is a total failure and an America hater.
I served this nation. I took an Oath. And the constition is looked at like a door mat now. Blatent constitutional violations with no response because everyone is afraid the minorities will riot. Like the OJ Simson deal. We let a know killer go because of fear.
I no longer see a man. I see a black man. I instantly think an Obama supporter, a racsist, someone out to get his from whitey.
It saddens me deeply. I never felt this way before. I don't like the thoughts that instantly jump in my head. America is a different place now.
I carry a gun everywhere I go now. And my town is a safe little town in Texas. I don't like the way our country is going. Not one bit.
no, as I said they (the service member) are expected to use discretion
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Moby76065
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Aren't those same government employee's (their not military members but still government) going to be flying those 30,000 drones over the USA? By the way that's 10 drones per county across America!!
COULD that be the tip of a spear? Let's hope not.
yes it could be, depends on who is on the joystick end. if its 30k state or local authorities thats kind of difficult to manage (for an administration that has difficulty managing anything). if they're being piloted by the domestic force Obama wanted (and I believe actually got some money for) thats easier to manage.
in either case this would fall into the area of protecting America from all enemies foreign and domestic.
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Cruella
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Wouldn't this also be a function of Homeland Security? The TSA? VIPR Teams? They can pull you over on the freeway or check you out if your walking into McDonalds.
I would bet there are dozens of so called "security" organizations that the President could deploy. There is even a similar structure in the healthcare bill. I would be curious to see just how many groups there are at his disposal. When you read the NDAA, if it were in the wrong hands....I cringe to even think about it.
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