What If Trayvon Martin Had Killed George Zimmerman?

Obama Campaign was a RAW DEAL!!! Its not Change you can Believe in,,Its LIBERALISM YOU CAN BELIEVE IN! This isnt really CHANGE! If its Change than how come Obama Admin is the former Clinton admin like Hillary,Eric Holder,Leon Panetta?
 
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steveox said:
Obama Campaign was a RAW DEAL!!! Its not Change you can Believe in,,Its LIBERALISM YOU CAN BELIEVE IN! This isnt really CHANGE! If its Change than how come Obama Admin is the former Clinton admin like Hillary,Eric Holder,Leon Panetta?
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I like your new avatar...very nice!
 
Business Insider put together some chronological bullet points highlighting the article’s most important points:
  • Zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race household
  • He was an altar boy at his Caltholic church from age 7-17
  • He is bilingual
  • After he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance license
  • In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an Allstate insurance office (which soon failed)
  • Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest for “resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer” occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of his
  • Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black.
  • In 2009, Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College
  • In the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered Shellie in the Zimmermans’ yard. George Zimmerman asked a police officer whether he should buy pepper spray. The cop told him pepper spray wasn’t fast enough and recommended that he get a gun.
  • By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes “was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins.” In several of the cases, witnesses said the robbers were young black men
  • In July 2011, a black teenager stole a bicycle off the Zimmermans’ porch
  • In August of 2011, a neighbor of the Zimmermans, Olivia Bertalan, was home during the day when two young black men entered her house. She hid in a room upstairs and called the police. When the police arrived, the two men, who had been trying to take a TV, fled. One of them ran through the Zimmermans’ yard.
  • After the break-in, George Zimmerman stopped by the Bertalans and gave Olivia a card with his name and number on it. He told her to visit his wife Shellie if she felt unsafe.
  • The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead. Zimmerman got a second dog–a Rottweiler.
  • In September, several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.
  • In the next month, two more houses in the neighborhood were robbed.
  • A community newsletter reminded residents to report any crimes to the police and then call “George Zimmerman, our captain.”
  • On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman spotted a young black man looking into the windows of a neighbor’s empty house. He called the police and said “I don‘t know what he’s doing. I don’t want to approach him, personally.” The police sent a car, but by the time they arrived, the man was gone.
  • On February 6th, another house was burglarized. Witnesses said two of the robbers were black teenagers. One, who had prior burglary convictions, was soon caught with a laptop stolen from the house.
  • Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.
Is it possible that Zimmerman is an angry racist? It is. But as Business Insider wonders, “doesn’t it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?”
 
Texas_tea said:
Business Insider put together some chronological bullet points highlighting the article’s most important points:
  • Zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race household
  • He was an altar boy at his Caltholic church from age 7-17
  • He is bilingual
  • After he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance license
  • In 2004, Zimmerman and a black friend opened an Allstate insurance office (which soon failed)
  • Zimmerman’s 2005 arrest for “resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer” occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of his
  • Zimmerman married his wife, Shellie, in 2007. They rented a house in Twin Lakes. Twin Lakes is about 50% white, 20% Hispanic, and 20% black.
  • In 2009, Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College
  • In the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered Shellie in the Zimmermans’ yard. George Zimmerman asked a police officer whether he should buy pepper spray. The cop told him pepper spray wasn’t fast enough and recommended that he get a gun.
  • By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes “was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins.” In several of the cases, witnesses said the robbers were young black men
  • In July 2011, a black teenager stole a bicycle off the Zimmermans’ porch
  • In August of 2011, a neighbor of the Zimmermans, Olivia Bertalan, was home during the day when two young black men entered her house. She hid in a room upstairs and called the police. When the police arrived, the two men, who had been trying to take a TV, fled. One of them ran through the Zimmermans’ yard.
  • After the break-in, George Zimmerman stopped by the Bertalans and gave Olivia a card with his name and number on it. He told her to visit his wife Shellie if she felt unsafe.
  • The police recommended that Bertalan get a dog. She moved away instead. Zimmerman got a second dog–a Rottweiler.
  • In September, several concerned residents of the neighborhood, including Zimmerman, asked the neighborhood association to create a neighborhood watch. Zimmerman was asked to run it.
  • In the next month, two more houses in the neighborhood were robbed.
  • A community newsletter reminded residents to report any crimes to the police and then call “George Zimmerman, our captain.”
  • On February 2, 2012, Zimmerman spotted a young black man looking into the windows of a neighbor’s empty house. He called the police and said “I don‘t know what he’s doing. I don’t want to approach him, personally.” The police sent a car, but by the time they arrived, the man was gone.
  • On February 6th, another house was burglarized. Witnesses said two of the robbers were black teenagers. One, who had prior burglary convictions, was soon caught with a laptop stolen from the house.
  • Two weeks later, Zimmerman spotted Travyon Martin and called the police. The last time he had done this, the suspect got away. This time, he disregarded police instructions and followed. A few minutes later, Martin was dead.
Is it possible that Zimmerman is an angry racist? It is. But as Business Insider wonders, “doesn’t it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?”
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I was reading something similar to this, but one thing I read that wasn't on this list is Zimmerman’s great grandfather was black... so really shouldn’t he be a black Hispanic instead of a white Hispanic?
 
Pandora said:
I was reading something similar to this, but one thing I read that wasn't on this list is Zimmerman’s great grandfather was black... so really shouldn’t he be a black Hispanic instead of a white Hispanic?
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Ha!

How about this? Zimmerman is an African American. After all, Obama's mommy was white American and daddy black African. Nobody refers to BO as a white African.
 
Texas_tea said:
Well, you know you can't cry racism if the dudes a "black/hispanic"!
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so if Zim has a juvie son he would look like... you know who ?
you know, he kinda does !

martin.jpg
 
pocketfullofshells said:
he was a idiot with a gun looking to play cop....regardless if he was in some form of watch ( there is no registered neighborhood watch for there, aka no training..or anything) He saw a black kid chased him, the kid had nothing on him, no weapons, was not doing anything...and is dead...

Zimmerman is now Charged with 2nd degree Murder..the Coraner said he saw no eveidence of the kid being in a fight...some audio forensics has come out saying that Zimmerman was not the one heard yelling,

But you just keep clinging to that idea, that this idiot was driving by...stopped his car...ran after a kid with his gun...and then just somehow he was attacked and had to defend himself...but its all the dead kids fault. I am sure he was chasing the kid...stopped and said, you know what I am a idiot, I should just go back ...then the kid being chased...who told his GF that a guy was following him..turned around and then went and attacked him....but the idiot was so slow or stupid somehow did not notice and was then attacked...and then had to use his gun...

think what you want, he is in jail where he should be...
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Anyone trespassing in a gated community that does not live there is by definition acting suspiciously.

So the guy on watch saw a black kid that was tresspassing, chased him, they got in a fight, and the guy with the gun won. Is it about the kid being black. It seems pretty reasonable that black people live in that community so it seems to be more about the kid not living there. Was there any racial profiling? Maybe. Sometimes the shoe fits.
 
In this case, the gun holder takes upper hand. Whatever happened, the other side was dead. A dead person could never defend for himself.

That left others have to believe what the gun holder says. It will encourage people to kill in argument becuase there are too many advantages for a killer in similar case.

But should a law help the weaker side for the justice?
 
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katsung47 said:
In this case, the gun holder takes upper hand. Whatever happened, the other side was dead. A dead person could never defend for himself.

That left others have to believe what the gun holder says. It will encourage people to kill in argument becuase there are too many advantages for a killer in similar case.

But should a law help the weaker side for the justice?
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apparently not but this is true whether they're armed or not. ack when they had duels it seldoms wasa the case that both parties wound up dead.
 

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