What a sad, truly sad statement about our homophobic way of thinking!

[Revere]

Why should straight men be forced to sleep, dress, and shower with homosexual men?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

No, they're not. The military disqualifies some on the basis of physical and psychological criteria.

Under law they are equal (supposedly).

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

You served in the military with homosexuals?

Everyone who served in the military has served with homosexuals.

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Bingo!

Because if they were legitimized in the open, recruitment of the far-vaster pool of heteros would predictably drop. "Here you go son, sign right here at the "x". Of course you know this means you'll be showering with Jackson over there who will be eyeing your whanger every minute you look away. You'll get over it though."

Everyone knows that homosexuals are out there, they just don't want them advertising. In other words we want the homosexual behaviors in the closet because behind closed doors is exactly where those activities belong.

Sex isn't love. Time to wake up and realize that.

Your fear is showing again, Siho. Your characterization of gays oogling in the shower is hardly likely when they are outnumbered 100 to 1. If gays are going to be oogling, then one would expect that they are right now as well--anybody got any complaints?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Why should straight men be forced to sleep, dress, and shower with homosexual men?

Why shouldn't they? They have been for the whole existence of military history, what's the big deal?

 

[Revere]

Under law they are equal (supposedly).

Wrong. There are plenty of physical and psychological impediments to enlisting. You could take any one of them and make the case they are unfair or arbitrary.

 

[Revere]

Why shouldn't they? They have been for the whole existence of military history, what's the big deal?

Why should straight men be forced to sleep, dress, and shower with openly gay men?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Wrong. There are plenty of physical and psychological impediments to enlisting. You could take any one of them and make the case they are unfair or arbitrary.

Did you have a point? The military needs soldiers, gays do a good job and have been serving without problems forever. Why shouldn't they continue to do so?

 

[Mare Tranquillity]

Why should straight men be forced to sleep, dress, and shower with openly gay men?

Why shouldn't they? They have been for the whole existence of military history, what's the big deal?

(Are you experiencing deja vu?)

 

[Revere]

Why shouldn't they? They have been for the whole existence of military history, what's the big deal?

(Are you experiencing deja vu?)

Wrong. They were not expected to sleep, dress, and shower with openly gay men.

 

[Revere]

Did you have a point? The military needs soldiers, gays do a good job and have been serving without problems forever. Why shouldn't they continue to do so?

The point is that the military relies on a cohesiveness that does not bend to the prevailing social whim of the day.

 

[Sihouette]

If the military does not allow heterosexual men to shower with hetero women, why should it allow openly gay women to shower with hetero women and openly gay men to shower with hetero men?

If the DADT thing is repealed, the first thing they should do is make barracks and bathroom facilities coed. Anything less would be descrimination because the assumption for having separate facilities is that an atmosphere that promotes sexuality is unacceptable in the military. You cannot say "oh, the gays will be able to control their sexual urges around the objects of their desire while heteros cannot be trusted under the same conditions. That would be bigotry against heteros.

One thing I could live with is if they're going to repeal DADT, they must build separate living/showering quarters for these people. Or maybe they could house lesbians in with the hetero men and gays in with hetero women? Of course then you'd get sly hetero men enlisting as "gay" so they could take showers with the women..lol.. I'm getting a headache thinking about it. Glad I'm not having to deal with it on a day to day basis..

Just some ideas.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Why should straight men be forced to sleep, dress, and shower with openly gay men?

why you scared they will check you out? ooo

Guess what they are there, they are in the lockers, and they always have been....

They use to be scared of letting the colored folk in the army to ...now they make up a large part....all the problems they said would happen...never happened...amazing...

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

The point is that the military relies on a cohesiveness that does not bend to the prevailing social whim of the day.

How old are you? Go back and reread post #41...real slowly...see the stats that explain your irrational fear about cohesiveness...you're chasing after unicorns and worrying about bridges with little trolls...GOOD GRIEF

 

[dogtowner]

If you are current military or a vet, your opinion of the effect should be considered. If you're not, why would you think you have the perspective to address it ?

Military society is not the same as society in general and that needs to be factored into the discussion.

All of us were born into this society but only a comparative few volunteer into the other.