We Can and Will Force Christians to Act Against Their Faith

[Texas_tea]

got a link to that court decision?

Got google?

 

[PLC1]

Got google?

Make statements you can't back up?

 

[Texas_tea]

Make statements you can't back up?

Fox .... CBS ..... Snopes .... take your pick!


Flap After Court Rules Pledge of Allegiance Unconstitutional

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56310,00.html#ixzz2dlxnS4Cp

Federal Judge Pulls Plug On Pledge

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-845834.html

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/pledge.asp

 

[dogtowner]

And the ruling was stayed and lzter reversex. Curiously enough because the father of the student was ruled as having no standing. Per the Snopes link at least. they dont always get it wrong.

 

[Texas_tea]

And the ruling was stayed and lzter reversex. Curiously enough because the father of the student was ruled as having no standing. Per the Snopes link at least. they dont always get it wrong.

Yes, apparently I missed the '04 update.

I find it interesting that it was over turned on the basis that Newdow did not have the legal standing to bring the case to begin with.

It was not overturned based on the Constitutionality of the Pledge. How long do you think it will be before that Constitutionality is challenged again?

Regardless .... there are endless stories on the net about schools either no longer saying the Pledge or it being challenged.

Parents Fight Over Pledging Allegiance In Schools

Asher Holmes Elementary Students No Longer To Pledge Allegiance To School; Recite School Song Instead

Pledge of Allegiance in Schools: Not Required in These 5 States

 

[dogtowner]

Yes, apparently I missed the '04 update.

I find it interesting that it was over turned on the basis that Newdow did not have the legal standing to bring the case to begin with.

It was not overturned based on the Constitutionality of the Pledge. How long do you think it will be before that Constitutionality is challenged again?

Regardless .... there are endless stories on the net about schools either no longer saying the Pledge or it being challenged.

Parents Fight Over Pledging Allegiance In Schools

Asher Holmes Elementary Students No Longer To Pledge Allegiance To School; Recite School Song Instead

Pledge of Allegiance in Schools: Not Required in These 5 States

yeah odd grounds to be sure.
you find it odd that Asher Holns elen is stopping a pledge of allegence to the school teacher and (by the way) flag ?
If a locality wants it, its their call. Local standards should matter most.

 

[Texas_tea]

yeah odd grounds to be sure.
you find it odd that Asher Holns elen is stopping a pledge of allegence to the school teacher and (by the way) flag ?
If a locality wants it, its their call. Local standards should matter most.

Yes I agree ....

But, one has to wonder how we got to these "local standards".

 

[dogtowner]

Yes I agree ....

But, one has to wonder how we got to these "local standards".

not really, they bought into liberal claptrap. and as a result set themselves on the road to financial woes that will eventually (and generally too late) sink them. but as they say, its a free country and people are free to be as smart or stupid as they please. freedom isnt always pretty but it can be pretty special.

 

[PLC1]

Fox .... CBS ..... Snopes .... take your pick!

Flap After Court Rules Pledge of Allegiance Unconstitutional

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56310,00.html#ixzz2dlxnS4Cp

Federal Judge Pulls Plug On Pledge

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-845834.html

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/pledge.asp

Aha! You actually tried to back up your statement, good job!

However... from your first link:

The Wednesday ruling, if allowed to stand, would mean schoolchildren could no longer recite the pledge, at least in the nine Western states covered by the court.

So, that brings up the question of whether it was allowed to stand:

In Mr. Newdow’s latest case against “under God” in the Pledge, the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals panel ruled, in a 2-to-1 decision, that the schoolroom routine for millions of children is not a violation of the Constitution, but a historical reflection of the Founding Fathers’ beliefs that “serves to unite our vast nation.”

link
Apparently, it was not, and the Pledge, complete with "under god" is still being recited by schoolchildren all over the nation.

Oh, and the other stuff I posted, about prayer and that, I was right about that, too.

 

[Texas_tea]

Aha! You actually tried to back up your statement, good job!

However... from your first link:



So, that brings up the question of whether it was allowed to stand:


link
Apparently, it was not, and the Pledge, complete with "under god" is still being recited by schoolchildren all over the nation.

Oh, and the other stuff I posted, about prayer and that, I was right about that, too.

Yes ....

That point was already discussed .... sorry you missed those comments .....

However, if it fits your agenda or even more brilliantly so IF you would do some research for yourself you would see this is happening in schools across America even without a Court Order.

Or, you can choose denial ..... again .......

 

[Texas_tea]

Christian bakery closes after LGBT threats, protests

A family-owned Christian bakery, under investigation for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a lesbian couple, has been forced to close its doors after a vicious boycott by militant homosexual activists.
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One would have to wonder if these "militant homosexual activists" were organized by the DOJ at taxpayer expense like the activist at the anti-Zimmerman rallies were.

CAN and WILL ........ force Christians to act against there faith!

 

[PLC1]

Yes ....

That point was already discussed .... sorry you missed those comments .....

However, if it fits your agenda or even more brilliantly so IF you would do some research for yourself you would see this is happening in schools across America even without a Court Order.

Or, you can choose denial ..... again .......

I could do that.

Or, I could challenge you once again to back up your words (in vain, no doubt, but I could do that.)

 

[Texas_tea]

I could do that.

Or, I could challenge you once again to back up your words (in vain, no doubt, but I could do that.)

Remaining in a state of denial about the current events in the news today is not exactly a "challenge" .....

Just because you refuse to acknowledge the stories being reported daily on this topic or any other does not mean it isn't so!

 

[PLC1]

Remaining in a state of denial about the current events in the news today is not exactly a "challenge" .....

Just because you refuse to acknowledge the stories being reported daily on this topic or any other does not mean it isn't so!

Can't find a credible source, huh?

 

[Texas_tea]

‘Under God’ Atheist Family’s Pledge Battle That Could Have Nationwide Implications Heads to Mass. Supreme Court

While some might dismiss the case as similar to past unsuccessful efforts to remove “under God,” the family, led by their attorneys, is taking a very different strategic approach. Rather than using the U.S. Constitution as their basis, the plaintiffs are going after the state’s use of “under God,” claiming that it is, instead, a violation of the Massachusetts Constitution.

“This is the first time a legal challenge to government use of ‘under God’ is based on the equal protection rights in a state constitution instead of the Establishment Clause of the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment,” the law center said in a statement Tuesday.