US politics and election

[dogtowner]

But He lied to us. He knew Bin Laden was hiding there. You have forgoten what George Bush said about nations who are harboring terrorist.

they all lie. you just need to know when they're doing it.

 

[steveox]

I still think he should stand trial. If found guilty he gets 20 years in Gitmo Bay. Let an Israelian court judge him

 

[katsung47]

Did he turn his back against Bush after 9/11 was attacked? I do agree IRAQ was wrong. But it was the rightfor thing to do to attack Afgainstan..

Taliban offered Bush to handle Bin Laden if there is evidence. It's a reasonable demand. Any court will take the case with evidence. But Bush rejected the offer because the war was designated. 911 is a false flag "terror attack" to justify the war.

Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over

9.30pm update:
* Taliban demand evidence of Bin Laden's guilt

guardian.co.uk, Sunday 14 October 2001 17.19 EDT
　

President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.
----------

"If the Taliban is given evidence that Osama bin Laden is involved" and the bombing campaign stopped, "we would be ready to hand him over to a third country", Mr Kabir added.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5

 

[Little-Acorn]

(sigh) is little katsung back again, bumping old threads and pushing his kooky conspiracy theories again???

Doesn't he know any other tricks?

 

[katsung47]

Why Bush rejected Taliban's offer to handle Bin Laden? Because he had no evidence. 911 was created to justify a planned war.

Quote, "
Proof Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11; 3 simple points

blueridge

Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:52

75.109.16.198

1. Usama Bin Laden's absolute, unequivocal, immediate denial in Pakistan press after he was blamed:

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people…
...What is this? Is it not that there exists a government within the government in the United States? That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. " --Osama bin Laden interview with Ummat, 28 September 2001

Sources: Ummat, Urdu-language daily newspaper based in Karachi, Pakistan - Friday, 28 September 2001 - pages 1, 7. - Source: BBC Monitoring Service
http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html
[this writer found it shortly after, along with others, and retained original links to Ummat's article to this day]


2. The government's spurious video evidence, claiming that he "boasted" (while he denied it above):

"It’s bogus," says Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of Duke University’s Religious Studies program.

The video is further examined here:
http://ahmedismailibrahim.wordpress.com/2007/06/17/proof-that-bin-laden-had-no-links-with-911-and-the-bin-laden-tape-is-a-hoax-video/

3. The testimony of the FBI:

a) The FBI "Mosted Wanted" terrorist poster on Bin Laden does not show that he is "wanted" for 9/11. http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

b) and here is what they have stated:

"The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."

--Rex Tomb, FBI spokesman, in interview with Muckraker Report
<http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html>
[Muckraker also did a follow up article in further confirmation]

The FBI is well informed of the video (proves Muckraker Report), but, nonetheless, still considers that there is "no hard evidence" to connect Bin Laden with 9/11. Thus again, the video cannot be considered said evidence.

There is therefore no sustainable evidence except politically-convenient allegation and propaganda, to make such a false and spurious claim. This also kills the idea of Al Qaeda which they claim also was connected directly with Bin Laden. The BBC documentary "Power of Nightmares" documents that Al Qaeda was "an invention" of the U.S. government, and that videos of Bin Laden "were faked for the western media", with "militants" called in for the purpose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKYID2ACdKs

 

[katsung47]

GOP committee attempts to manipulate delegate
process in Missouri
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKe0dxBJy1A
6 min. video


GOP's Guide on How To Steal A Election
without Breaking A Sweat! - Georgia
http://tinyurl.com/7564yjw or

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=18267
5 min. video
ELECTION Fraud? Why Did ABC-TV Post Illinois
GOP Primary "Vote Count" 24 Hours Early?
http://tinyurl.com/d35gv7v or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdGJaGbLj5E&feature=related
3 min. video

Pandemonium at MO GOP Caucus as Party Leaders
Seen Attempting to Steal It From Paul Supporters
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9192
'Republican Party Establishment Hates Democracy
(and Ron Paul Supporters)'
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9199
9 min. video
Ron Paul Supports got evidence of Election fraud
- Missouri and Georgia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJMiNg9lUqg&feature=related
9 min.
Programmer testifies under oath the ease of rigging an
election via software, that he was paid to create.
Lobbyists asks this man to create a program to rig
an election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xu3VSLsj2g

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IssuesAndAlibis_The_Forum/message/43140

 

[katsung47]

Romney knows US politics better than all of you. - that his election does not depend on your votes. It depends on the Feds (FBI and Pentagon) who manipulated the voting system by rigged election and faked poll. )They control media.)

Ron Paul's story is an evidence. Most popular candidate never won. Only those designated puppet got election.
　
Romney on spending: Guns triumph over butter
　

By ANDREW TAYLOR | Associated Press
4/22/2012
WASHINGTON (AP) — Reducing government deficits Mitt Romney's way would mean less money for health care for the poor and disabled and big cuts to nuts-and-bolts functions such as food inspection, border security and education.
Romney also promises budget increases for the Pentagon, above those sought by some GOP defense hawks, meaning that the rest of the government would have to shrink even more. Nonmilitary programs would incur still larger cuts than those called for in the tightfisted GOP budget that the House passed last month.
http://news.yahoo.com/romney-spending-guns-triumph-over-butter-120715130.html

　

Republicans to slash food stamps
By DAVID ROGERS | 4/16/12 12:04 PM EDT Updated: 4/17/12 8:12 AM EDT
From food stamps to child tax credits and Social Service block grants, House Republicans began rolling out a new wave of domestic budget cuts Monday but less for debt reduction — and more to sustain future Pentagon spending without relying on new taxes.


Read more: [URL='http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75190.html#ixzz1t0Z6tfNd [/QUOTE']http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75190.html#ixzz1t0Z6tfNd[/URL]

 

[cashmcall]

Here is how Bush won the election.

Quote, "How To Rig An Election In The United States
Inside A U.S. Election Vote Counting Program.
The New Zealand Media blows the lid off of US vote fraud!
Local copy
How the Back-door was discovered in the voting machines.
Local copy
How the system integrity problem was discovered.
Local copy
Bald-Faced Lies About Black Box Voting Machines.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/rigvote.html

"DELAND, Fla., Nov. 11 - Something very strange happened on election night to Deborah Tannenbaum, a Democratic Party official in Volusia County. At 10 p.m., she called the county elections department and learned that Al Gore was leading George W. Bush 83,000 votes to 62,000. But when she checked the county's Web site for an update half an hour later, she found a startling development: Gore's count had dropped by 16,000 votes, while an obscure Socialist candidate had picked up 10,000--all because of a single precinct with only 600 voters."

- Washington Post Sunday , November 12, 2000 ; Page A22
Yes. Something very strange happened in Volusia County on election night November 2000, the night that first Gore won Florida, then Bush, and then as everybody can so well remember there was a tie.

Something strange indeed. But what exactly? In the above report ( click for full version), written days after the election, hotshot Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank goes on to attribute the strange 16,022 negative vote tally from Volusia's precinct 216 to an apparently innocent cause.
"…. faulty 'memory cards' in the machines caused the 16,000-vote disappearance on election night. The glitch was soon fixed," he wrote.
But thanks to recent investigations into Black Box Voting by Washington State writer Bev Harris we now know this explanation is not correct. In fact it is not even in the ballpark.
Entire article
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

20. The Greatest Story Never Told
Are American elections fixed? Don't ask the mainstream media.

Imagine the following election procedure:
Paper ballots are marked, in secret and deposited by the voters in sealed ballot boxes. (So far, so good).

The ballot boxes are then delivered to the offices of a private firm, which is publicly known to be a supporter of and contributor to one of the political parties.

Upon receipt of the ballot boxes, the doors are locked and no one other than employees of that firm is allowed to inspect and validate the counting.

The ballots are then destroyed, after which the results are announced.

The firm's favorite candidate is declared the winner. The final results vary radically from pre-election polls.

Sounds like a Soviet "election," doesn't it? Like something that a dictator might dream up to assure himself a lifetime office. But surely, such a "fix" is too transparently and shamelessly obvious for anyone to think he could get away with it.

And yet this scenario is an exact analogy, in all relevant respects, to the "computer screen" voting system that has been rushed into use, following the fiasco of the 2000 presidential election.

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/greatest-story.htm

<http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0302/S00036.htm>
<http://www.blackboxvoting.com>
<http://www.votescam.com>

02.10/31. Justice cracks down on voter fraud
By Audrey Hudson

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021031-30356402.htm

... Voter fraud has been reported this year in Arkansas, South Dakota,
California, Louisiana, Nevada, Kentucky, Iowa, Arizona, Rhode Island, New
York and Minnesota in federal and local elections.

One of the most bizarre cases occurred in the Minnesota town of Coates,
population 163, where 94 voter registration forms had false addresses
matching that of Jake's Strip Club. Patrons and dancers registered to vote
to oust City Council members who had shut down the club, authorities said.
In Arkansas, Democrats said a former staffer hired two teenagers to
recruit voters, but then used a phone book to register hundreds of unwary
residents, including dead people and businesses.

.......
The Justice Department has ordered investigations and close monitoring of polls this Election Day because of increased reports of voter fraud throughout the country

Attorney General John Ashcroft has directed U.S. attorneys to appoint election officers to deter discrimination and voter fraud and to prosecute violators vigorously under the Voting Integrity Initiative.

"Our goal here is to work hand in hand with civil rights leaders and state and local election officials to prevent violations and bring offenders to justice," said Jorge Martinez, spokesman for the Justice Department.
Voter fraud has been reported this year in Arkansas, South Dakota, California, Louisiana, Nevada, Kentucky, Iowa, Arizona, Rhode Island, New York and Minnesota in federal and local elections.

One of the most bizarre cases occurred in the Minnesota town of Coates, population 163, where 94 voter registration forms had false addresses matching that of Jake's Strip Club. Patrons and dancers registered to vote to oust City Council members who had shut down the club, authorities said.
In Arkansas, Democrats said a former staffer hired two teenagers to recruit voters, but then used a phone book to register hundreds of unwary residents, including dead people and businesses.

Republicans say election fraud is rampant and county clerks often are not requiring identification.
Democrats say demand for identification amounts to harassment and that Republicans are intimidating voters.

"With Election Day a week away, we have already seen a disturbing number of incidents in which Republican operatives are working to chill voter turnout," said Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle said Republicans have targeted minority groups for intimidation. "In my state of South Dakota, we are now seeing a concerted Republican effort to make allegations and launch initiatives intended to suppress Native American voting," he said. "These efforts appear to be motivated more by partisan politics than a concern with clean elections."

Marc Racicot, chairman of the Republican National Committee, called the assertions by Mr. Daschle and Mr. McAuliffe "absurd and racially charged."

"They have set about to twist and pervert a normal and traditional effort to assure voter integrity, routinely undertaken by both parties, into something that would be outrageous and illegal if it were true," Mr. Racicot said.

In 25 South Dakota counties, state and federal officials are investigating suspected voter fraud and believe one Democratic operative is linked to 1,750 applications for absentee ballots. Becky Red Earth-Villeda was fired by the Democratic Party after the charges surfaced.

"A dead woman signed up twice to vote in two different counties - very active this woman," said Christine Iverson, spokeswoman for Republican Rep. John Thune, who is challenging Democratic Sen. Tim Johnson.
Justice Department officials Tuesday will monitor polls in Alabama, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia and Texas.

In other published reports of voter fraud:

•A Louisiana parish (county) councilman is under investigation in a suspected vote-buying scheme and three other elected officials may be linked, Baton Rouge's the Advocate reported.
•FBI agents seized voter records from Nye County, Nev., offices to investigate suspected voter fraud.
•Two Republicans in California have been sentenced to four months in jail after pleading guilty to voter fraud for forging signatures, the Los Angeles Times reported.
•Iowa residents are receiving absentee ballots unsolicited in the mail.
•A Connecticut state representative who lost the Democratic primary last month was placed under investigation for supposedly helping seniors fill out absentee ballots in violation of state law, the Hartford Courant reported.
•The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation is examining suspected voter fraud in a Democratic race for Adair County commissioner.
•Three Arizona county officials have been indicted on charges of election fraud and helping illegal aliens to vote.
•In Rhode Island, Providence police are investigating a complaint by a senior citizen who said she was forced to turn over her ballot at a home for the elderly.
•In Texas, 16,000 dead or ineligible voters remain on the voting rolls, "creating an environment that is ripe for fraud and abuse," said Ted Royer, spokesman for the Texas Republican Party.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021031-30356402.htm

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20021031-30356402.htm
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57666-2003May15.html>

Here's how Obama won the election....Republicans ran a Rino and the Conservatives stayed home, simple really

 

[Cruella]

Here's how Obama won the election....Republicans ran a Rino and the Conservatives stayed home, simple really

Lately McCain has been coming out and beating up on Obama and his policies, which he refused to do when he ran against him.

 

[dogtowner]

Lately McCain has been coming out and beating up on Obama and his policies, which he refused to do when he ran against him.

painfully stupid idea. why he let the entire narrative on dem malfeasance regarding regulation of the markets go by when he was a major player in fighting it just boggles my mind.

 

[katsung47]

Bryan Spencer Speaks about Rigging St. Charles Caucus

 

[katsung47]

electiable

 

[katsung47]

Lawyers for Ron Paul - GOP fraud

./viewtopic.php?p=1716270by free_life2 » 06/ 07/



Your Help Is Needed – We MUST ACT QUICKLY

Are you FED UP with the fraud of the GOP in this election??…Become informed of a LAWSUIT BEING FILED soon in federal court - CIVIL RIGHTS AND VOTER FRAUD VIOLATIONS.

A group of attorneys have come together –“LAWYERS FOR RON PAUL” (https://www.facebook.com/groups/188334154612254/) and will be on a huge conference call on Wednesday 06/06/2012 @ 7:00 pm (PST) / 10:00 pm (EST), to explain this “Heart-Pounding” event.

http://www.freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=308&t=155576

 

[Cruella]

The biggest problem Ron Paul has are his supporters.

 

[dogtowner]

The biggest problem Ron Paul has are his supporters.

lot of truth in that statement