Time to order my bumber stickers but I need help

[BigRob]

thats kinda sad.

But true.


I think Obama has made a few mistakes recently by letting McCain set the issues, and the focus on abortion as well as housing. Not that I am complaining of course.

 

[top gun]

your opinon is not truth, and i would be a liar if i said it was

again you skirted my question

can you not come up with a sigle thing about obama that can be laughed at, can you not name even one single thing you could be critical of where Obama is concerned? and some wonder why we think you treat him like a messiah

I want anti obama stickers

send me some of yours so i can but a big fat S over the B and draw horns on his head

I'm trying to be positive. You said you like Bush... embrace Bush as McCain's mentor. It's a winning move in my opinion.

If it has to be negative on Senator Obama go with the He's Skinny or He's Black. Those will help you with your base.

 

[top gun]

Package-deal fallacy: when two or more things have been linked together by tradition or culture are said to stay that way forever
Ad hominem: attacking the personal instead of the argument.
Argumentum ad populum: where a proposition is claimed to be true solely because many people believe it to be true
Association fallacy & Guilt by association
Appeal to consequences: a specific type of appeal to emotion where an argument concludes a premise is either true or false based on whether the premise leads to desirable or undesirable consequences for a particular party
Appeal to emotion: where an argument is made due to the manipulation of emotions, rather than the use of valid reasoning
Appeal to fear: a specific type of appeal to emotion where an argument is made by increasing fear and prejudice towards the opposing side
Appeal to spite: a specific type of appeal to emotion where an argument is made through exploiting people's bitterness or spite towards an opposing party

You left out the most important one though didn't you?

McCain = Bush

truth:
1. the true or actual state of a matter.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
11. fidelity or constancy.
12 in truth, in reality; in fact; actually.

 

[top gun]

no you are not very good at this.

but its ok, i had not expected you to be able to see a flaw in your messiah, after all he is "THE ONE"


You know even Judas and the others found flaws in Jesus

I'll leave the Judas thing to Conservatives. I'm not a back stabbing disciple and Senator Obama is not Jesus.

Hey wait.........................

I got it!

BARACK OBAMA
Good but not Jesus

 

[GenSeneca]

You left out the most important one though didn't you?

McCain = Bush

truth:
1. the true or actual state of a matter.
2. conformity with fact or reality; verity: the truth of a statement.
3. a verified or indisputable fact, proposition, principle, or the like.
4. the state or character of being true.
5. actuality or actual existence.
6. an obvious or accepted fact; truism; platitude.
7. honesty; integrity; truthfulness.
8. fundamental reality apart from and transcending perceived experience.
9. agreement with a standard or original.
10. accuracy, as of position or adjustment.
11. fidelity or constancy.
12 in truth, in reality; in fact; actually.

Nope, I covered your "truth"

Argumentum ad populum ("appeal to belief", "appeal to the majority", "appeal to the people"): where a proposition is claimed to be true solely because many people believe it to be true

I should also add:

Argumentum ad nauseam: is an argument made repeatedly (possibly by different people) until nobody cares to discuss it anymore.

Keep repeating your lies and people are bound to believe it as true. Fact is, Bush was the leader of the Party and McCain went against Bush at least 5% of the time... If McCain becomes leader, he will lead the party.

Obama has NEVER gone against his party - Making Obama the Conformist candidate marching to the Democrat party orders and not the candidate of Change. Hes not suggesting anything that Democrats haven't advocated for decades... He just "doesn't look like those other presidents on dollar bills" so people accept that as being all the Change they need.

 

[Mr.Dysfunctional]

Well I am now completely against obama.. sorry peeps but you now have completely ruined me with his VP choice...

Soo.. since that being said.. How about I show the joke that is at the heart of my problem with his VP

I'm think a T-shirt that shows two superheros.. goes something like!

AFFIRIMATIVE-ACTION-MAN with side-kick OVERQUALIFIED-BOY!
Vote obama 08 and ensure ignorrance is the driving force for EMPLOYMENT!
HELL THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IT!

really.. I want someone to clarify that I am not seeing this is crystal clear perfection

Under-qualified black man managing an overqualified white guy.
shouldn't the ticket be Joe Biden for president.. Obama for VP? Seriously .. none of you can argue this...

Joe biden has what... 30 years experince in the senate.. and hes the damn VP? WTF?!?! just shows how backwards the democrats have become.
ohh I'm sorry.. the new socialist party. (( sorry I try to keep these names straight.. but as fast as the politicians have been flopping on ideas its just hard to pin them down on a particular thought process))

Will try harder to remeber socialist party

 

[Pandora]

thats kinda sad.

Yes sad, very sad indeed. but what would be more sad is to blindly follow a ***** who has no clue or ideas but can give a great speech,


to me that is the most sad of all

 

[Pandora]

I'm trying to be positive. You said you like Bush... embrace Bush as McCain's mentor. It's a winning move in my opinion.

If it has to be negative on Senator Obama go with the He's Skinny or He's Black. Those will help you with your base.

IF bush were running I would vote for him again over either of the two running. BUT bush isnt running.

so since he is not running why would I want to do something stupid and put a bumper sticker on my car of a man who is not running?

I have one agenda, to stop "THE ONE"

 

[Pandora]

I'll leave the Judas thing to Conservatives. I'm not a back stabbing disciple and Senator Obama is not Jesus.

Hey wait.........................

I got it!

BARACK OBAMA
Good but not Jesus

If we can add the other guy the world has been waiting for, that might work


Thank you

 

[Pandora]

Well I am now completely against obama.. sorry peeps but you now have completely ruined me with his VP choice...

Soo.. since that being said.. How about I show the joke that is at the heart of my problem with his VP

I'm think a T-shirt that shows two superheros.. goes something like!

AFFIRIMATIVE-ACTION-MAN with side-kick OVERQUALIFIED-BOY!
Vote obama 08 and ensure ignorrance is the driving force for EMPLOYMENT!
HELL THE PRESIDENT IS DOING IT!

really.. I want someone to clarify that I am not seeing this is crystal clear perfection

Under-qualified black man managing an overqualified white guy.
shouldn't the ticket be Joe Biden for president.. Obama for VP? Seriously .. none of you can argue this...

Joe biden has what... 30 years experince in the senate.. and hes the damn VP? WTF?!?! just shows how backwards the democrats have become.
ohh I'm sorry.. the new socialist party. (( sorry I try to keep these names straight.. but as fast as the politicians have been flopping on ideas its just hard to pin them down on a particular thought process))

Will try harder to remeber socialist party

I love it, Oh DO I LOVE It

and I agree they are backwards Biden is qualified to be president, obama isnt qualified to tie the mans shoes.


I dont think I can get away with that shirt at work though.

So far I am liking

Obama has the judgement to lead
us straight to hell

Obama the other "ONE" the world has been waiting for
then a picture of a devil or satan

 

[top gun]

GenSeneca;57253]Nope, I covered your "truth"

I can't just make this stuff up? The truth is McCain is like Bush. I don't blame you from trying to distance but that's just the cold hard documented truth.

The first one really drives the point home.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBfngOsvmA0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZlUekuQBgM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg

 

[GenSeneca]

I can't just make this stuff up?

Sure you can... But you don't have to, the Radical Left has already spun all they need into propaganda soundbites and slogans for you to regurgitate.

Obama=Clinton=Edwards=Kerry=Every other leftist politician

At least according to your measuring system...

I have ONE question for you Top and I do hope you answer it, its simple:

Among these Republican Candidates, which ones would you have NOT said were equal to Bush:
Guiliani
Romney
Huckabee
Thompson
Hunter

Its my belief that it wouldn't matter who the Republicans nominated, your entire strategy has been to run on the hatred of GWB... CandidateX=Bush

Prove me wrong by telling me which of those named would not be equal to Bush.

 

[Libsmasher]

The best one for Obama:

OBAMA: IN YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW HE'S WRIGHT

 

[top gun]

I have ONE question for you Top and I do hope you answer it, its simple:

Among these Republican Candidates, which ones would you have NOT said were equal to Bush:
Guiliani
Romney
Huckabee
Thompson
Hunter

Its my belief that it wouldn't matter who the Republicans nominated, your entire strategy has been to run on the hatred of GWB... CandidateX=Bush

Prove me wrong by telling me which of those named would not be equal to Bush.

Did any of them come out strongly against Bush's economic policy and the War in Iraq? If any of them did then I pick him.

My guess is... and I say this only from watching them in the Republican debates, that they were all falling all over themselves to be the MOST BUSH LIKE to appeal to their base in a primary.

They only Republican that I saw in the debates stand up and put it to the Bush Administration was Ron Paul. He's not on your list but he's is a Republican that was in the Republican debates.

So I guess I'll say Ron Paul. Ron Paul was not Bush like.

 

[top gun]

The best one for Obama:

OBAMA: IN YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW HE'S WRIGHT

That would probably piss the Left off a little but the Right are not exactly known for spelling (remember Dan Quayle... potatoe) so that might just fly wright over their heads!