The U.S. Government Is Preparing For War Against The American People

[Dr.Who]

I don't think the gov is planning anything of this sort. The possibility exist that they could or that in the future they would - but not now.

The ballot box would be a completely ineffectual weapon against a gov that wanted to seize control.

The separation of powers is also not enough.

Neither would armed citizens be enough.

The press is a joke.

So what is to stop some dictator in the future?

 

[Hobo1]

I think it is quite interesting to read this except from a Wikipedia article https://www.houseofpolitics.com/threads/the-u-s-government-is-preparing-for-war-against-the-american-people.16482/
It's a perfect example of how a change of government could happen without massive gun fights. The lesson to be learned is ... when the general population (liberal and conservative) become so dissatisfied with the government (and the President takes on more autocratic powers), that the weight of protest will demand change. The military, ie, men who are your own countrymen with guns, will not mercilessly mow down protestors. In fact they may join the protestors. Remember a gun can't kill anyone unless the human holding the gun is willing to pull the trigger!

Beginning on 25 January 2011, a series of street demonstrations, protests, and civil disobedience acts have taken place in Egypt. The demonstrations and riots were reported to have started over police brutality, state of emergency laws, unemployment, desire to raise the minimum wage, lack of housing, food inflation, corruption, lack of freedom of speech, and poor living conditions.[13] The protests' main goal was to oust President Hosni Mubarak's regime.​

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On 11 February 2011, Mubarak resigned and fled Cairo. Vice President Omar Suleiman announced that Mubarak had stepped down and that the Egyptian military would assume control of the nation's affairs in the short term. Jubilant celebrations broke out in Tahrir Square at the news.[16] Mubarak may have left Cairo for Sharm el-Sheikh the previous night, before or shortly after the airing of a taped speech in which Mubarak vowed he would not step down or leave.[17]​

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On 13 February 2011, the high level military command of Egypt announced that both the constitution and the parliament of Egypt had been dissolved. The parliamentary election was to be held in September.[18]​

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A constitutional referendum was held on 19 March 2011. On 28 November 2011, Egypt held its first parliamentary election since the previous regime had been in power. Turnout was high and there were no reports of irregularities or violence, although members of some parties broke the ban on campaigning at polling places by handing out pamphlets and banners.[19​

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On 8 July 2012, Egypt's new president Mohamed Morsi said that he's overriding a military edict that dissolved the country's elected parliament and calling on lawmakers back into session.​

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On 10 July 2012, the Supreme Constitutional Court of Egypt negated the decision by President Mohamed Morsi to call the nation's parliament back into session.[20] On 2 August 2012, Egypt’s Prime Minister Hisham Qandil announced his 35 member cabinet comprising 28 newcomers including four from the influential Muslim Brotherhood, six others and the former military ruler Tantawi as the Defence Minister from the previous Government.[21]​

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On 22 November 2012, Egyptian Mohamed Morsi issued a declaration immunizing his decrees from challenge and seeking to protect the work of the Constituent Assembly drafting the new constitution.[22] The declaration also requires a retrial of those accused in the Mubarak-era killings of protesters, who had been acquitted, and extends the mandate of the constituent assembly by two months. Additionally, the declaration authorizes Morsi to take any measures necessary to protect the revolution. Liberal and secular groups previously walked about of the constitutional constituent assembly because they believed that it would impose strict Islamic practices, while Muslim Brotherhood backers threw their support behind Morsi.[23]​

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The move has been criticized by Mohamed ElBaradei who stated "Morsi today usurped all state powers & appointed himself Egypt's new pharaoh" on his Twitter feed.[24][25] The move has led to massive protests and violent action throughout Egypt.[26]​

 

[Gipper]

I don't think the gov is planning anything of this sort. The possibility exist that they could or that in the future they would - but not now.

The ballot box would be a completely ineffectual weapon against a gov that wanted to seize control.

The separation of powers is also not enough.

Neither would armed citizens be enough.

The press is a joke.

So what is to stop some dictator in the future?

Do you mean the government does not intend to kill its citizens today, but is planning for this contingency in the future? If so, we are in agreement. Why would several agencies of our government, who are involved in domestic duties only, purchase huge amounts of ammo including hollow point rounds? When asked why they did this they refused to respond, only later did they offer bogus reasons. Looks very suspicious to me.

This is the latest order by the DHS of hundreds of millions of rounds of hollow point ammo. Back in March, the agency purchased 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition from the ATK company out of Minnesota. This was followed in April by a solicitation for another 750 million rounds, including .357 magnum rounds that are capable of penetrating walls. All together, this is over a billion rounds.
The DHS has so far refused to say why they are purchasing billions of rounds, as this is an unusually large amount. When more people started questioning these purchases, the DHS responded byclassifying information, blacking out certain sections of a solicitation, including portions pertaining to 64 and 65 grain .223 ammo and the number being requested.
Other agencies have also begun buying large quantities of ammo, including the National Weather Service’s order of 46,000 hollow point rounds, and 174,000 .357 magnum rounds ordered by the Social Security Administration. Though the SSA has explained away their purchase as being typical for agents and the NWS claims that the purchase was a “clerical error” and was actually for NOAA's Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, the reasons for the DHS’s purchases still remain unknown. http://www.examiner.com/article/department-of-homeland-security-buys-even-more-hollow-point-rounds

Such large acquisitions of such deadly ammunition by so many federal domestic agencies– including some puzzling ones like the Social Security Administration– all over such a short period of time might reasonably be expected to elicit some kind of response or comment from the White House and Congress. But they haven’t, with the exception of Sen. Rand Paul, whose reaction last week was to tweet:

Senator Paul was blasted immediately for his tweet by various sources (e.g. Daily Kos, Think Progress) because he incorrectly identified the rounds as going to the National Weather Service instead of NOAA. Paul didn’t even make an accusation, nor ask a question. He simply tweeted what was originally reported by media sources– that the NWS had purchased 46,000 rounds of ammunition.
Because millions of rounds of deadly ammunition have been purchased this year, primarily by DHS, it’s not unreasonable for voters and policymakers to ask questions about it. Why purchase so much ammo, and how will it be used? Why purchase hollow point bullets for training, as SSA is claiming, instead of cheaper firing range bullets? And how does this year’s quantity and type of ammunition purchases by DHS and other government agencies compare to the quantity and type of ammunition in prior year purchases?
http://ivn.us/2012/08/19/rand-paul-tweets-about-hollow-point-bullet-purchases/

 

[Gipper]

Homeland Security Now Armed With Enough Ammo for 24 Year-Long Iraq War

Posted by Jim Hoft on Saturday, February 16, 2013, 11:23 AM

Homeland Security is now armed with enough ammunition for a 24 year-long Iraq War.

The government reportedly repositioned several of their Homeland Security ammunition containers recently.​

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The containers (like those pictured) are usually painted olive drab and are unmarked except for indistinguishable numbers/letters probably for inventory, routing, etc.​

Investor’s Business Daily reported:​

In a puzzling, unexplained development, the Obama administration has been buying and storing vast amounts of ammunition in recent months, with the Department of Homeland Security just placing another order for an additional 21.6 million rounds.​

Several other agencies of the federal government also began buying large quantities of bullets last year. The Social Security Administration, for instance, not normally considered on the frontlines of anything but dealing with seniors, explained that its purchase of millions of rounds was for special agents’ required quarterly weapons qualifications. They must be pretty poor shots.​

But DHS has been silent about its need for numerous orders of bullets in the multiple millions. Indeed, Examiner writer Ryan Keller points out Janet Napolitano’s agency illegally redacted information from some ammunition solicitation forms following media inquiries.​

According to one estimate, just since last spring DHS has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm. That’s sufficient firepower to shoot every American about five times. Including illegal immigrants.​

To provide some perspective, experts estimate that at the peak of the Iraq war American troops were firing around 5.5 million rounds per month. At that rate, DHS is armed now for a 24-year Iraq war.​

Mark Levin told his audience the government is buying the vast amounts of ammo to prepare for the collapse of our financial system and our society.

Obama’s Homeland Security Department has purchased 1.4 billion rounds of ammunition – that is not a typo — during the last six months.​

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ATK is one company that won a contract with the Department of Homeland Security to provide 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition in 2012.​

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-with-enough-ammo-for-24-year-long-iraq-war/​

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Not your concern...move along...​

 

[dogtowner]

either they're looking to kill us all many many times over or BO must have benefactors in the ammo biz.

wonder how many teacher hires or infrastructure projects all that money might have been piss*d away on ?

 

[steveox]

The Black Panthers,,SEIU and ACORN rigged the last election to help Obama get re-elected

 

[PLC1]

either they're looking to kill us all many many times over or BO must have benefactors in the ammo biz.

wonder how many teacher hires or infrastructure projects all that money might have been piss*d away on ?

If ammo manufacturers and gun dealers didn't contribute to Obama, they should have. He's done more for their business than anyone.

 

[PLC1]

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Not your concern...move along...​

and you still maintain that an armed rebellion against the US government could succeed?

 

[dogtowner]

and you still maintain that an armed rebellion against the US government could succeed?

Of course.

The civilian population vastly out numbers them but mainly the question becomes would "the authorities" pull the trigger on this ? Even if BO was screaming into the phone I don't believe they would.

 

[PLC1]

Of course.

The civilian population vastly out numbers them but mainly the question becomes would "the authorities" pull the trigger on this ? Even if BO was screaming into the phone I don't believe they would.

I'd hope not.
But, if that crowd started shooting at the White House, they just might.

 

[Cruella]

The Black Panthers,,SEIU and ACORN rigged the last election to help Obama get re-elected

They've made no secret of pitting all the races and classes against each other, including the media, academia and politicans. Obama has been the ring leader of that effort. He has also made no bones about his dislike for the Constitution.

 

[Cruella]

The military, ie, men who are your own countrymen with guns, will not mercilessly mow down protestors. In fact they may join the protestors. Remember a gun can't kill anyone unless the human holding the gun is willing to pull the trigger!

Exactlly. I know a few military and local police and they wouldn't do it.

 

[steveox]

Remember this day?

This is the man who opened the door for Obama 45 years l.eter

 

[Gipper]

and you still maintain that an armed rebellion against the US government could succeed?

And you don't even after history proves you wrong.

 

[dogtowner]

I'd hope not.
But, if that crowd started shooting at the White House, they just might.

if that crowd started shooting up the White House the military would know it needed to be done.