The truth about Hillary Clinton

[grumpy]

The only known criminal is Trump unless you have some proof that Hillary was ever convicted, or fined, for some criminal activity.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/donald-trump-scandals/474726/

In my mind Hillary is a criminal, and eventually it will be proven. as far as i'm concerned it allrea

At the rate Trump changes his mind, and back pedals, what is there to stop him from returning to his Democrat roots if elected?

Nothing.. changing ones mind isn't a bad idea when you were wrong to begin with..

 

[grumpy]

He is not perfect by any stretch but the risk of putting a known criminal in office and letting Soros stack the scouts is far too scary to imagine.

He wasn’t my first, second, or 12th choice, but he’s my last choice.

 

[dogtowner]

He wasn’t my first, second, or 12th choice, but he’s my last choice.

The very best thing about him is he is a uge monkey wrench thrown into the machine. It's the only way to attack the establishment and return this country back to its citizens.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

In my mind Hillary is a criminal, and eventually it will be proven. as far as i'm concerned it allrea

Funny. They felt the same way about Christ, or the Salem witch's, to name a couple of examples. That is why the Founders supported the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" which the right wing is now trying to destroy as they always destroy everything.

Nothing.. changing ones mind isn't a bad idea when you were wrong to begin with..

With Trump he is always wrong, and simply changes his mind depending on which group he is speaking to at the moment.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

The very best thing about him is he is a uge monkey wrench thrown into the machine. It's the only way to attack the establishment and return this country back to its citizens.

Give an example of where Trump has shown he intends to return the country "back to its citizens"? And how do you eliminate the "establishment" when you vote for incumbents, and the incompetent?

 

[Stalin]

more...as if any were needed....

http://fusion.net/story/357169/hillary-clinton-foundation-victims-colombia/

Comrade Stalin

 

[Stalin]

or this..the clintons are probably worth more than trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...eab638-0957-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html

Comrade Stalin

 

[grumpy]

Give an example of where Trump has shown he intends to return the country "back to its citizens"? And how do you eliminate the "establishment" when you vote for incumbents, and the incompetent?

He said so.. carries at least as much weight as Hillary telling us she's for the little people..

 

[Old_Trapper70]

He said so.. carries at least as much weight as Hillary telling us she's for the little people..

But you don't believe Hillary. You believe Trump who is a proven liar just as Hillary is.

Now, since words (talk) are cheap, can you show me an example of how he will do so? Even today he used his campaign to promote a hotel of his in D.C. knowing he can not win in D.C.. He is using donations to his campaign to profit himself. He doesn't pay taxes, yet whines when poor people ask for help. So, show me where he is a "man of the people"?

 

[grumpy]

But you don't believe Hillary. You believe Trump who is a proven liar just as Hillary is.

Now, since words (talk) are cheap, can you show me an example of how he will do so? Even today he used his campaign to promote a hotel of his in D.C. knowing he can not win in D.C.. He is using donations to his campaign to profit himself. He doesn't pay taxes, yet whines when poor people ask for help. So, show me where he is a "man of the people"?

I never said Donald was a man of the people.. I said, what he says carries at least as much weight as Hillary telling us she's for the little people. I believe . right now today, we need someone like Trump more than Hillary Clinton. I personally have 8 employees and they all have great insurance. I bit the bullet you might say. But with anymore increases and there is going to be. They are going to have to foot the bill and they know it.. This is out of hand, myself and conservatives have said so sense the beginning..

 

[Old_Trapper70]

I never said Donald was a man of the people.. I said, what he says carries at least as much weight as Hillary telling us she's for the little people. I believe . right now today, we need someone like Trump more than Hillary Clinton. I personally have 8 employees and they all have great insurance. I bit the bullet you might say. But with anymore increases and there is going to be. They are going to have to foot the bill and they know it.. This is out of hand, myself and conservatives have said so sense the beginning..

I really hate it when people when shown the error of their ways, do the Trump thing, and lie to cover up their own *********. This is not the first time you have done so, nor will it be the last.

What you said, and I asked for an example of was "return this country back to its citizens." In other words, a man of the people.

Obviously you have no examples so you double down, and lie.

As to I assume health insurance, why is it you can't see the truth of the matter? Prescription drugs especially for cancer) are going up like the Epipen by 400-600% while the CEO sees their salaries triple, or more.( http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/b...ep-rising-despite-intense-criticism.html?_r=0 } Graduates from medical school are no longer satisfied with the title "General Practitioner". They have to be "specialists" even though they know no more, and double their fees.( http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/where-have-all-the-primary-care-doctors-gone/ ) Hospitals are charging 16,000 dollars for an emergency room stay even if that stay is only for 1 hour.( http://www.ibtimes.com/health-care-...arging-10-times-medicare-rates-common-1957271 ) Republicans have blocked subsidy payments to insurance companies for three years now.( http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/17/Congress-Weakens-Obamacare-Limiting-Bailout-Funds-Insurers ) Doctors are ordering tests that are totally unnecessary.( http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/p...d-physicians-order-unnecessary-imaging-tests# )

But hey, the rise in premiums has to be due to Obamacare.

 

[grumpy]

I really hate it when people when shown the error of their ways, do the Trump thing, and lie to cover up their own *********. This is not the first time you have done so, nor will it be the last.

What you said, and I asked for an example of was "return this country back to its citizens." In other words, a man of the people.

Obviously you have no examples so you double down, and lie.

As to I assume health insurance, why is it you can't see the truth of the matter? Prescription drugs especially for cancer) are going up like the Epipen by 400-600% while the CEO sees their salaries triple, or more.( http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/27/b...ep-rising-despite-intense-criticism.html?_r=0 } Graduates from medical school are no longer satisfied with the title "General Practitioner". They have to be "specialists" even though they know no more, and double their fees.( http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/where-have-all-the-primary-care-doctors-gone/ ) Hospitals are charging 16,000 dollars for an emergency room stay even if that stay is only for 1 hour.( http://www.ibtimes.com/health-care-...arging-10-times-medicare-rates-common-1957271 ) Republicans have blocked subsidy payments to insurance companies for three years now.( http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/12/17/Congress-Weakens-Obamacare-Limiting-Bailout-Funds-Insurers ) Doctors are ordering tests that are totally unnecessary.( http://www.healthleadersmedia.com/p...d-physicians-order-unnecessary-imaging-tests# )

But hey, the rise in premiums has to be due to Obamacare.

Trapper, so far I have been respectful to you.. Do you honestly think I am not aware of these things? Our system is screwed up. I could right a post six pages long on this issue and you wold pick out one sentence to argue about. Tell me if any of these words sounds like anyone you know..


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argumentative
adjective
showing disapproval someone who is argumentative often argues or disagrees with people

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someone who is contrary enjoys disagreeing with people and doing the opposite of what is expected or asked

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adjective
ready to fight, argue with, or oppose someone

confrontational
adjective
behaving in a way that shows you want to have an argument or fight with someone

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adjective
tending to argue with people

cantankerous
adjective
always complaining or arguing and easily annoyed

contentious
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enjoying arguing with other people

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someone who is volatile can quickly become angry or violent

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[Old_Trapper70]

Trapper, so far I have been respectful to you.. Do you honestly think I am not aware of these things? Our system is screwed up. I could right a post six pages long on this issue and you wold pick out one sentence to argue about. Tell me if any of these words sounds like anyone you know..

Intelligent people call that deflection. Pointing out your falsehoods is not being argumentative, and your failure to accept your use of falsehoods is not being "christian".

 

[grumpy]

Intelligent people call that deflection. Pointing out your falsehoods is not being argumentative, and your failure to accept your use of falsehoods is not being "christian".

Trapper, I have opinions like most people do, I believe my opinions are right, if I didn't they would not be my opinions. They would be someone else's. That said. You've said i'm not intelligent and i'm not a Christian because of my falsehoods. BUT, all you offer is other peoples opinions and 90% of those opinions I've already read. I do my homework so I can come up with an opinion of my own. Could I be wrong? Not Likely, But yes it is possible, As Donald Trump would say, again NOT LIKELY..

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Trapper, I have opinions like most people do, I believe my opinions are right, if I didn't they would not be my opinions. They would be someone else's. That said. You've said i'm not intelligent and i'm not a Christian because of my falsehoods. BUT, all you offer is other peoples opinions and 90% of those opinions I've already read. I do my homework so I can come up with an opinion of my own. Could I be wrong? Not Likely, But yes it is possible, As Donald Trump would say, again NOT LIKELY..

Never said you were not a "christian", just that your actions do not represent Christianity just as Trumps do not. And you are still avoiding answering the question as to an example of how Trump is a "man of the people", or how he is going to "return this country back to its citizens."