The ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE!

[Luis J Garcia]

The ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE!

The latest quote from the established, experienced Mrs. Clinton. "And we need a President, who understands and can do all parts of the Job". GOD HELP us ALL!

 

[Old_Trapper70]

The ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE!

The latest quote from the established, experienced Mrs. Clinton. "And we need a President, who understands and can do all parts of the Job". GOD HELP us ALL

Yes, we need another Republican, more wars, and another recession. I am not a Hillary supporter, but, like Bernie Sanders says, this ********* has gone on long enough.

Now, since you are obviously supporter of the cowards like Trump, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, etc., could you explain why the Intelligence Dep't is "upgrading" to Top Secret the emails Clinton sent years ago when they were not classified as such when she sent them, and then is refusing to release them?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/top-secret-hillary-clinton-emails-103049408.html

The release of 22 sensitive emails that US presidential hopeful that were sent through an unsecured home server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as US secretary of state will never see the light of day, after the country's State Department branded them top secret. State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, which totalled 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were emailed, but were being upgraded at the request of the US intelligence services.

Kirby also stated that 18 emails, that comprise of eight email chains between Clinton and President Barack Obama, were being "withheld in full" to "protect the President's ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel", However, he said that they "have not been determined to be classified" and that they would "ultimately be released" in accordance with the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

 

[dogtowner]

So forget the 20 some reclassified and you still have hundreds exposed.
You still have no required disclosure documents.
And you have BO making claims that it was no big deal despite never having been briefed.
This stinks to high heaven.

 

[Luis J Garcia]

Yes, we need another Republican, more wars, and another recession. I am not a Hillary supporter, but, like Bernie Sanders says, this ********* has gone on long enough.

Now, since you are obviously supporter of the cowards like Trump, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, etc., could you explain why the Intelligence Dep't is "upgrading" to Top Secret the emails Clinton sent years ago when they were not classified as such when she sent them, and then is refusing to release them?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/top-secret-hillary-clinton-emails-103049408.html

The release of 22 sensitive emails that US presidential hopeful that were sent through an unsecured home server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as US secretary of state will never see the light of day, after the country's State Department branded them top secret. State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, which totalled 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were emailed, but were being upgraded at the request of the US intelligence services.

Kirby also stated that 18 emails, that comprise of eight email chains between Clinton and President Barack Obama, were being "withheld in full" to "protect the President's ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel", However, he said that they "have not been determined to be classified" and that they would "ultimately be released" in accordance with the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

Buddy, you must be out of your mind. Perhaps you need some HELP!

I'm not PRO-WAR, But most importantly, I'm not PRO-SOCIALISM! or PROGRESSIVENESS!

It’s obvious the last Bush administration screwed us over with the Iraq War. Perhaps it was bad intelligence or just a bad decision. But I definitely did not agree with the Nation Building that came with it. As to the economic situation. That part, I honestly think it was payback time for all of the liberal laws the previous Clinton put into place. Which allowed folks that could not and should not afford it. Get into debt over their heads. This while the upper middle class ripped the profits from the poor trying to get up the latter.


Why don't you have a better look at what most Progressive Democrats have done to this country over the years. Better yet, can't you see what a SOSIALIST Democrat will take us. Americans need to wake up and make a choice. Regrettably, right now in this election cycle our choices are not much to choose from. But we need someone that is not from the so called "ESTABLISHMENT". We Don't need any more politicians. The likes of ex or current Senators, Governors. As far as I'm concerned DI will not vote for any established or experienced politician. In my opinion, will leave us with only three logical choices either TRUMP, FIORINA or CARSON. And Yes, not necessarily in that order. In 2008 American voted for a suave politician from Illinois with his message of HOPE and CHANGE! Blame it on Congress, or blame it on his lack of respect for constitutional law. Do you really think we're better off today! If you do, then I really rest my case!


DOWN with the ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Buddy, you must be out of your mind. Perhaps you need some HELP!

I'm not PRO-WAR, But most importantly, I'm not PRO-SOCIALISM! or PROGRESSIVENESS!

It’s obvious the last Bush administration screwed us over with the Iraq War. Perhaps it was bad intelligence or just a bad decision. But I definitely did not agree with the Nation Building that came with it. As to the economic situation. That part, I honestly think it was payback time for all of the liberal laws the previous Clinton put into place. Which allowed folks that could not and should not afford it. Get into debt over their heads. This while the upper middle class ripped the profits from the poor trying to get up the latter.

Mind revealing who you voted for in 2000, and s2004?

Then too, "payback"? Seriously? It had nothing to dfo with the removal of Glass-Steagall by the Republicans, and signed by Clinton? It had nothing to do with the allowance of China in as a permanent member of the WTO which Clinton had opposed? Nothing to do with Bush's failure to prosecute bankers when he was told of their corruption in 2004, 2006? Has nothing to do with the increasing of debt under Bush, the loss of jobs, his promotion of home ownership? How about the tax breaks, and loopholes that allowed the "upper middle class" to "rip off" the poor?

Why don't you have a better look at what most Progressive Democrats have done to this country over the years. Better yet, can't you see what a SOSIALIST Democrat will take us.

Why is it other industrialized countries can afford to do so, yet the richest country in the world cannot affords to do so? If I told you that the Founding Fathers never supported the income equality that we see now you would think me to be the fool. Jefferson supported taxing ONLY the rich, and he supported free education through 2 years of college. Benjamin Franklin began a system of hospitals to provide free care for the poor. And the list goes on. The Founders were basically laissez-faire believers, and Classical Liberals, not what we call "liberals", or "conservatives", of today both of which as perversions of the opriginal meaning of the terms liberal, and conservatives.

Americans need to wake up and make a choice. Regrettably, right now in this election cycle our choices are not much to choose from. But we need someone that is not from the so called "ESTABLISHMENT". We Don't need any more politicians. The likes of ex or current Senators, Governors. As far as I'm concerned DI will not vote for any established or experienced politician. In my opinion, will leave us with only three logical choices either TRUMP, FIORINA or CARSON. And Yes, not necessarily in that order.

So, you have two liars, two cowards, and a woman who as CEO of HP fired 18,000 American workers to send jobs overseas.

In 2008 American voted for a suave politician from Illinois with his message of HOPE and CHANGE! Blame it on Congress, or blame it on his lack of respect for constitutional law. Do you really think we're better off today! If you do, then I really rest my case!

So, now the deficit is lower then in 2008; 200,000+ are being hired instead of 800,000 being fired every month, we have a glut of oil, housing prices are recovering, etc. So, aside from the fact that the 1% has increased their wealth by over 500 billion dollars in the last 5 years while whining about maybe having to increase wages for the working man, who has not seen a raise since Reagan began his war on the middle class, I guess you think that is worse then in 2008.

You have made no case to "rest on".

DOWN with the ESTABLISHMENT EXPERIENCE

I agree. However, I look for someone with principles, not one that lies about not having to serve in the military, lies to his wives, lies to the people. I am looking for someone with the character, and honor, of the Founders.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

So forget the 20 some reclassified and you still have hundreds exposed.
You still have no required disclosure documents.
And you have BO making claims that it was no big deal despite never having been briefed.
This stinks to high heaven.

Stink as it may, you still have no proof of wrongdoing. Perhaps the "stink" is coming from the right wing who can't seem to get the job done, so they resort to more *********.

Now, when do you think they will spend as much time investigating the lies, and actions, regarding going into Iraq?

 

[dogtowner]

Stink as it may, you still have no proof of wrongdoing. Perhaps the "stink" is coming from the right wing who can't seem to get the job done, so they resort to more *********.

Now, when do you think they will spend as much time investigating the lies, and actions, regarding going into Iraq?

Last thongs first; they did, multiple times, nothing.
There is an abundance of truth as has been reported more that has not. Only question left is how much the administration does to obstruct justice.

 

[Luis J Garcia]

Mind revealing who you voted for in 2000, and s2004?

Then too, "payback"? Seriously? It had nothing to dfo with the removal of Glass-Steagall by the Republicans, and signed by Clinton? It had nothing to do with the allowance of China in as a permanent member of the WTO which Clinton had opposed? Nothing to do with Bush's failure to prosecute bankers when he was told of their corruption in 2004, 2006? Has nothing to do with the increasing of debt under Bush, the loss of jobs, his promotion of home ownership? How about the tax breaks, and loopholes that allowed the "upper middle class" to "rip off" the poor?



Why is it other industrialized countries can afford to do so, yet the richest country in the world cannot affords to do so? If I told you that the Founding Fathers never supported the income equality that we see now you would think me to be the fool. Jefferson supported taxing ONLY the rich, and he supported free education through 2 years of college. Benjamin Franklin began a system of hospitals to provide free care for the poor. And the list goes on. The Founders were basically laissez-faire believers, and Classical Liberals, not what we call "liberals", or "conservatives", of today both of which as perversions of the opriginal meaning of the terms liberal, and conservatives.



So, you have two liars, two cowards, and a woman who as CEO of HP fired 18,000 American workers to send jobs overseas.



So, now the deficit is lower then in 2008; 200,000+ are being hired instead of 800,000 being fired every month, we have a glut of oil, housing prices are recovering, etc. So, aside from the fact that the 1% has increased their wealth by over 500 billion dollars in the last 5 years while whining about maybe having to increase wages for the working man, who has not seen a raise since Reagan began his war on the middle class, I guess you think that is worse then in 2008.

You have made no case to "rest on".



I agree. However, I look for someone with principles, not one that lies about not having to serve in the military, lies to his wives, lies to the people. I am looking for someone with the character, and honor, of the Founders.

Why is it other industrialized countries can afford to do so, yet the richest country in the world cannot affords to do so?

If, so, then what the hell are you still doing here?. Go on, Please just relocate and move to any one of those other Industrialized "SOCIALIST, PROGRESSIVE Countries!

So, you have two liars, two cowards, and a woman who as CEO of HP fired 18,000 American workers to send jobs overseas.

No I look at it in another light. We have too many Establishment POLITICIANS on either side. If the country was willing to hire a junior senator, which all he was qualified for was, that he read well a teleprompter. Then this time around we should AVOID any of the EXPERIENCED, ESTABLISHMENT candidates. VOTE for anyone that has no WASHINGTON experience!

You mentioned the DEFICIT!! Honestly, I think that is a topic for another thread! Buddy, Good Luck to you with any one of your candidates SANDERS or CLINTON would be BAD for this country GOD BLESS AMERICA. This matter is closed!

 

[aklein707]

Yes, we need another Republican, more wars, and another recession. I am not a Hillary supporter, but, like Bernie Sanders says, this ********* has gone on long enough.

Now, since you are obviously supporter of the cowards like Trump, Cruz, Bush, Rubio, etc., could you explain why the Intelligence Dep't is "upgrading" to Top Secret the emails Clinton sent years ago when they were not classified as such when she sent them, and then is refusing to release them?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/top-secret-hillary-clinton-emails-103049408.html

The release of 22 sensitive emails that US presidential hopeful that were sent through an unsecured home server used by Hillary Clinton during her time as US secretary of state will never see the light of day, after the country's State Department branded them top secret. State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, which totalled 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were emailed, but were being upgraded at the request of the US intelligence services.

Kirby also stated that 18 emails, that comprise of eight email chains between Clinton and President Barack Obama, were being "withheld in full" to "protect the President's ability to receive unvarnished advice and counsel", However, he said that they "have not been determined to be classified" and that they would "ultimately be released" in accordance with the 1978 Presidential Records Act.

In case you are not familiar with human history, Socialism has NOT worked anywhere!! Bernie Sanders is a card carrying, self-proclaimed Socialist. The American people are fed up with these far Left ideologies which don't work. The United States has a Constitution which above all, proclaims liberty and justice for all. Socialism goes against that very principle, which is why the American people should reject it out of hand!! Hillary Clinton can not be trusted, and is an evil power-hungry hypocrite. The only alternative is from the Republican side, and while I do agree that we as a nation are fed-up with the status quo, I think only strong leadership will bring us out from this mess. I am voting for Donald Trump for that reason. He is not a politician, and he's built a billion Dollar empire, therefore he can not be bought. That's what we need now!! I'd like to see either Nikki Haley or Ted Cruz as his running mate.

 

[Luis J Garcia]

Stink as it may, you still have no proof of wrongdoing. Perhaps the "stink" is coming from the right wing who can't seem to get the job done, so they resort to more *********.

PROOF!, you say How about we quote her best teacher, her Husband! "I did not have a Sexual Relation with that Woman" Or should I say those women. LOL!

 

[Luis J Garcia]

To quote a famous line from liberal Hollywood.

The line from Michael Corleone "Carl you need to answer for Fredo"
Hillary, you're going to have to answer for Bengazy! Do you honestly think you could fool us Americans.!

 

[samsara15]

Can we afford any more Conservatives in office?

 

[Luis J Garcia]

Can we afford any more Conservatives in office?

No, we can't!
If it were possible. I would kick them all out of office. All of them Democrats, Republicans and Independents. That should have started during the last election cycle. It's obvious now, it does not matter who's got a majority.

But unfortunately I'm only one vote. But I do know we can't afford any more politicians into the white house. In my lifetime this is the best chance we've had to make a difference. Stay away from the any of the STATUS QUO candidates!

And to Hell with both of the Democrat and Republican ESTABLISHMENT Candidates! Frankly we're all a bit sick and tire of their lies and promises only to get into office. America Needs to start a NEW Movement, Not a REVOLITION, Just a NEW movement to pass a NEW amendment to our constitution. We the people, DEMAND TERM LIMITS for both HOUSES of CONGRESS.! Now I'm getting carried away. I guess this should be on yet another NEW THREAD, LOL!

 

[Old_Trapper70]

PROOF!, you say How about we quote her best teacher, her Husband! "I did not have a Sexual Relation with that Woman" Or should I say those women. LOL!

How about the Republicans should have impeached him for selling our secret/classified dual speed computers to China, or for allowing Loral Corp. to Lose" our top secret missile guidance system" to China? Then too, he lied to avoid getting out of going to Vietnam just as Cheney, Rove, and many others did.

Now, where is your proof concerning Hillary Clinton, or do we not judge everyone by the actions of others? Any liars, thieves, whatever, in your closet?

 

[Old_Trapper70]

No, we can't!
If it were possible. I would kick them all out of office. All of them Democrats, Republicans and Independents. That should have started during the last election cycle. It's obvious now, it does not matter who's got a majority.

But unfortunately I'm only one vote. But I do know we can't afford any more politicians into the white house. In my lifetime this is the best chance we've had to make a difference. Stay away from the any of the STATUS QUO candidates!

And to Hell with both of the Democrat and Republican ESTABLISHMENT Candidates! Frankly we're all a bit sick and tire of their lies and promises only to get into office. America Needs to start a NEW Movement, Not a REVOLITION, Just a NEW movement to pass a NEW amendment to our constitution. We the people, DEMAND TERM LIMITS for both HOUSES of CONGRESS.! Now I'm getting carried away. I guess this should be on yet another NEW THREAD, LOL!

Yes, you are only one vote, however, there are millions like you if they could ever get united. Then voted for Toss Perot, or Pat Buchannen, amongst others. Then for some strange reason many bought into the ********* lie by the likes of Limbaugh that a third party could not win. So, here we are once again with a bunch of trash to choose from.

In all honesty though, I will admit a certain amount of admiration for Bernie. He seems to be the most honest of the crowd.