The deficit

[Pidgey]

Last year:

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt

(eventually that link will roll)

2007 back to 2000:

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfhhis01.txt

(that one might roll eventually, too)

We'll see how much other countries keep buying T-bills. If they don't, then there won't be any money to fund excess spending. At that point, they'd just have to print more money and dilute the currency, or... stop spending.

 

[Pandora]

That mean I can finally burn Popeye and Pockets entire family at the stake for selling out the country to socialism you tratiorist bastards !!!

Why would you want to do that? More importantly why would you imply that Andy or I would want you to do that? I like Popeye, I don’t agree with him on almost anything but I like him very much and I have fun posting with him and arguing. I look forward to it. He is always respectful to me when he posts something unlike some here and its fun to debate with someone so polar opposite than yourself.

Or were you both thinking rush is not a traitor for supporting capitalism ...

Rush is an American and just like you or me, he has a right to say what he thinks where his country is concerned ( at least for now )

I bet you both are so intune with Authism you would were the folks who sold out their neighbors during pre WW2 russia and germany just for disliking the current regime.

I could not really understand that sentence but I would have been against my leader if I were Russian or German during WW2 and tried my best to get into the United States of America or died trying.

You both out to be hung for not supporting others rights to free speech.

I am assuming you meant that we both “aught” to be hung… You sure are into death. First you want to burn up poor Popeye and his whole family now you want to hang Andy and I. I think your post is rude and more importantly wrong. I know I don’t try to stop people from their points of view and I have never read one of Andy’s posts where he tried. Even though I think you are a highly dysfunctional person I don’t wish you burned in a fire or hung either one. I am glad you live in a country that ( For now ) you can say what you feel.

BTW I hope to god Obama fails and the dow comes crashing to a halt at 3k... I hope to god it does so I can laugh meaninglessly at the entire lot of liberals and marxists... I will be one of the first to hold up a gun and support throwing out the current status quo of our government !!!! Let there be civil war so true equality may exist again!

Great, you want to burn Popeye in a fire and his whole family, you want to hang poor Andy and myself and now you want what I have worked my entire adult life to blow away like smoke.

Ugh! I am sorry that you are so angry, I hope that things pick up for you soon

You know what I find so funny.

For 8 years republicans called liberals Un-American for talking bad about the troops and accusing them of horrible things.

Liberals cried and whined and threw out and out temper tantrums for being called Un-American. Some are still crying like school girls because someone once called them Un-American back in the day.

I am not crying about it, or whining about it or having a tantrum about it and neither was Andy.

If the new term for Un-American means those who do not want to buy into this new socialistic stuff then I proudly wear that badge.

Your post is so angry. Are you angry that we don’t mind being called Un-American? Or are you mad that we are not going along with the program?

 

[top gun]

The thing that keeps coming to mind is this. Wouldn't it have been great if the Clinton surplus could have just skipped over the whole Bush borrow & spend War of lies debacle and President Obama could have came in and just continued most of Clinton's policies with a renewed focus on healthcare!

That $12 BILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH wasted for about 8 years in Iraq sure would have shored up Social Security nicely.

Well we are where we are. We learned leaving the Republicants in decent financial shape doesn't help anything... they just give it away in tax cuts to people making over a quarter of a million dollars per year and spend the rest on saber rattling & Nation Building!

We're without doubt in a deep ditch now but at least the new people in charge give a damn about those in that under 250K tax bracket!

 

[Pandora]

The thing that keeps coming to mind is this. Wouldn't it have been great if the Clinton surplus could have just skipped over the whole Bush borrow & spend War of lies debacle and President Obama could have came in and just continued most of Clinton's policies with a renewed focus on healthcare!

That $12 BILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH wasted for about 8 years in Iraq sure would have shored up Social Security nicely.

Well we are where we are. We learned leaving the Republicants in decent financial shape doesn't help anything... they just give it away in tax cuts to people making over a quarter of a million dollars per year and spend the rest on saber rattling & Nation Building!

We're without doubt in a deep ditch now but at least the new people in charge give a damn about those in that under 250K tax bracket!

How much do you think that surplus was?

I have information on both sides, from those who say there was a big surplus and those who say there was never a surplus


how much of a surplus do you think we had when Clinton left office?

by the way your picture did not come through

 

[BigRob]

That $12 BILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH wasted for about 8 years in Iraq sure would have shored up Social Security nicely. [/COLOR]

I would like to see an end to the estimated $350 billion a year wasted on programs for illegal aliens. That is a big savings right there.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Let's go to VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​

(....The bane of "conseravtive"-liars.....)​

Liars? What did he lie about?

Left your reading-comprehension at-the-door, again, did you?

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[Mr. Shaman]

The kind that loves our Country more than his political party

Yeah......sure........

Limbaugh: "Did the Democrats want the war in Iraq to fail?"

[Crowd shouts:] "Yeah!"​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I would like to see an end to the estimated $350 billion a year wasted on programs for illegal aliens.

"Estimated" by who.....David Duke?​

 

[BigRob]

"Estimated" by who.....David Duke?​

The National Research Council.

 

[Andy]

That mean I can finally burn Popeye and Pockets entire family at the stake for selling out the country to socialism you tratiorist bastards !!!

Huh? That doesn't logically follow what I said...

Or were you both thinking rush is not a traitor for supporting capitalism ...

Capitalism is the ideal the entire country was founded on. So clearly supporting the ideals of the founding fathers, couldn't be 'traitorous'.

I bet you both are so intune with Authism you would were the folks who sold out their neighbors during pre WW2 russia and germany just for disliking the current regime.

"intune with authism you would were the...."

Try again, this time English.

You both out to be hung for not supporting others rights to free speech.

Right. I support your right to say really idiotic things like this. Please continue.

BTW I hope to god Obama fails and the dow comes crashing to a halt at 3k... I hope to god it does so I can laugh meaninglessly at the entire lot of liberals and marxists... I will be one of the first to hold up a gun and support throwing out the current status quo of our government !!!! Let there be civil war so true equality may exist again!

You are not helping your side at this point.

 

[Andy]

Left your reading-comprehension at-the-door, again, did you?

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Shaman you a such a joke! You post a video, and then ask if I can read! lol

Once again I watched the video, and agree with everything Limbaugh said. Now, where was the supposed lie?

 

[Dr.Who]

The thing that keeps coming to mind is this. Wouldn't it have been great if the Clinton surplus could have just skipped over the whole Bush borrow & spend War of lies debacle and President Obama could have came in and just continued most of Clinton's policies with a renewed focus on healthcare!

Then you are against borrowing and spending? Good.

Well we are where we are. We learned leaving the Republicants in decent financial shape doesn't help anything... they just give it away in tax cuts to people making over a quarter of a million dollars per year and spend the rest on saber rattling & Nation Building!

You can't create a deficit through tax cuts. You can only create a deficit by spending.

We're without doubt in a deep ditch now but at least the new people in charge give a damn about those in that under 250K tax bracket!

If they cared they would stop making policies that hurt those people. And they would certainly stop borrowing and spending which hurts us all.

 

[chestnut]

If Obama was in a hurry to help the working people in this country, he would have taken the advice from some Republicans in congress and given a payroll tax holiday for 6 months.

That would have been the fastest and most direct way to give people extra money to spend.

The process of creating all the programs and bidding process takes way too long to provide any real immediate relief.

So plainly, anyone can see that Obama is really not trying to help this economy.

He is just hungry for Power and Control. And the more he helps the under-class in America, and more he makes people depend on the govt, the more Power and Control he has.

It's that simple.

 

[Dr.Who]

If Obama was in a hurry to help the working people in this country, he would have taken the advice from some Republicans in congress and given a payroll tax holiday for 6 months.

That would have been the fastest and most direct way to give people extra money to spend.

The process of creating all the programs and bidding process takes way too long to provide any real immediate relief.

So plainly, anyone can see that Obama is really not trying to help this economy.

He is just hungry for Power and Control. And the more he helps the under-class in America, and more he makes people depend on the govt, the more Power and Control he has.

It's that simple.

But he gave them the fastest relief program in history by reducing the withholding immediately - now they get about $13 less taken out of their check every month.

And for the 40% of people who pay no taxes a payroll holiday would only mean that instead of paying zero in taxes they pay zero in taxes. To give a payroll holiday to the people who earn more would be a "tax break for the rich."

Yes many of his programs won't take effect for several years. By then the economy if it recovers will not be a concern but they programs will stay anyway. And if it does not return will justify keeping the programs. Yes anyone can see that the purpose of the bill is to fund programs and any effect it has on the economy Obama will accept as the price of doing business the socialists way.

Hungry for power and control? Isn't it clear that the democrats are happy with control of the house, the senate, the courts, the msm media, and the white house? They don't need to silence any opposition by restricting free speech. They don't need to send massive amounts of money to bribe their voting block. They don't need to rig the laws determining how unions get established. They don't need an "enemies list." What they do need is to find a way to raise the capital needed to fund socialism - and that will be done through carbon taxes. Which I would add are regressive in nature (hits the poor the hardest).

 

[Phoenix68]

Our founders knew the danger of this debt.

.....And, the Bush-family has risen it to an art-form. ​

You have sunk to a new partisan hack low.

Blaming Bush for increasing the deficit over 8 years is fine. But blaming Bush while ignoring that Obama is in the process of doubling it in onemonth makes you a shame-man.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....so, Obama isn't entitled to a full 8 years, before any accurate-comparison is made, huh?

How consistant of you.

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Of course he is not entitled to 8 years.

In one month he has done the bad thing that Bush did in 8 years.

At the end of his term it will either increase more in which case he is worse than Bush or he will steal from people who have been convicted of no crime to pay it off and that is even worse.

If he had any plans whatsoever to decrease the total amount of government spending as the means to reduce the deficit that he could get credit for that. But we all know he only plans to cut programs that fail to be socialistic or make symbolic cuts. The total gov spending will not decrease.

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