The deficit

[pocketfullofshells]

So the Germans during WW2 would be UN-German if they hoped their fearless leader failed?

The people of Russia who hated standing in bread lines were Un-Russian if they hoped that the government came down crashing?


I would have been happily Un-German and Un-Russian
but I guess thats why im Un-American

Fine you root for years of pain for millions of Americans...so you can claim you where right about the stimulus...how kind of you.

And really, the stimulus package vs Hitler and Stalin....try to stay in the same ballpark. makes you look like a fool....then again.....

 

[Pandora]

Fine you root for years of pain for millions of Americans...so you can claim you where right about the stimulus...how kind of you.

And really, the stimulus package vs Hitler and Stalin....try to stay in the same ballpark. makes you look like a fool....then again.....

I am rooting or what ever word you call it to not put our debt on my kids and your kids and their kids

we have made an absolute mess of things and all we are doing is making sure we dont suffer and we dont pay for our mistakes and instead say our kids and their kids should have to do it.

we are so different than the greatest generation, we are the worst generation America has ever had

 

[chestnut]

If the economy has turned around by 2012...Obama will win a second term easily. Which is why many Republicans.. Limbaugh, DeLay, and Malkin just a couple of examples, are rooting for Obama and by extension the country to fail.

No one wants Obama to fail, they want the big govt policies to fail

the dems now .. part of the stim bill.. giving states bonuses to increase their welfare roles. How does that help anyone. It does not.

Obama and the far left ideaology is not about individuals having opportunites to succeed, it is about govt controlling who succeeds.

No one should want those policies to prevail. No one!

 

[chestnut]

....And, don't we know why?

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Fear. Ask Obama about fear tactics. That's all he promoted for the first 2 - 3 weeks in office. Every time he had a chance he crammed the "fear factor" down the throats of americans to get his agenda passed.

 

[Pandora]

No one wants Obama to fail, they want the big govt policies to fail

the dems now .. part of the stim bill.. giving states bonuses to increase their welfare roles. How does that help anyone. It does not.

Obama and the far left ideaology is not about individuals having opportunites to succeed, it is about govt controlling who succeeds.

No one should want those policies to prevail. No one!

Actually I think Obama himself and all his cronies want this to fail too
so he can have another stim package twice as big

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Actually I think Obama himself and all his cronies want this to fail too
so he can have another stim package twice as big

and I think anyone who thinks that, should get a clue .

 

[Pandora]

and I think anyone who thinks that, should get a clue .

*looks for clues*

 

[pocketfullofshells]

*looks for clues*

I doubt you will find one, but at the first step is looking ...good job

 

[Andy]

So the Germans during WW2 would be UN-German if they hoped their fearless leader failed?

The people of Russia who hated standing in bread lines were Un-Russian if they hoped that the government came down crashing?


I would have been happily Un-German and Un-Russian
but I guess thats why im Un-American

Absolutely perfect response. That was brilliant!

I'm with Pandora. If being "pro-America" equals the socialization of America, then I'm a proud un-American Conservative!

 

[Andy]

Fine you root for years of pain for millions of Americans...so you can claim you where right about the stimulus...how kind of you.

And really, the stimulus package vs Hitler and Stalin....try to stay in the same ballpark. makes you look like a fool....then again.....

Pocket... you think we are the ones rooting for years of pain? Think about this. Obama in two months, has spent more money than any other president in the history of this country.

Now stop... who's money? Who's money is Obama spending?

His money? Or course not. Obama was in the top 1% of wage 'earners' last year, and gave less than 1% in charitable giving.

Our money? Nope. He isn't paying for this with money collected from tax payers.

No, he's paying for it with if from wealth that hasn't even been created yet. Our children and their children will be working to earn money to pay off debts created for reasons long forgotten by future generations.

You want to talk about years of pain? How about the pain of taxation and government control? The pain of ever larger government confiscation of the wealth you and your children haven't even started working to create yet. How about the pain of socialize medicine that has failed, and killed people around the world, where ever it is tried?

Which one of us is trying to cause millions of people, generations of pain and suffering at the hands of an every increasing government, and ever enlarging national debt?

Obama, and his supporters are. If you defend Obama, you are the one in favor of pain and suffering on a national scale. Not us. We want your plan of pain and suffering to fail. That's what we want to fail.

I want Obama to fail for the same reason I want, Hugo Chavez, Castro, Kim Jong-il, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and all the rest of the tyrants of our day, to fail. Because they, whether they intend to or not, cause misery and suffering.

Obama is no different. His policies will cause suffering for years and years into our future.

 

[Pandora]

Bravo Andy,

You sure can say what I am feeling

 

[Pandora]

While searching for clues as directed to do by pocket full of sh**
I came across something that should explain what I mean…

Here, I cut out the part I think helps explain what I was talking about when I said “Actually I think Obama himself and all his cronies want this to fail too
so he can have another stim package twice as big”


From link:

"Nobody, obviously, wished for this kind of economic crisis, but it is true that when the country is in an economic crisis, they turn to Democrats, whether that Democrat be Franklin D. Roosevelt or the president-elect, Barack Obama," he says. "And the country understands that something quite substantial has to be done by government, because government is the spender of last resort."

While the deficit has ballooned again this year, it's a far lower priority now, and far less of an impediment to a Democratic wish list of policy changes pent up for decades.

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste," Emanuel, the incoming White House chief of staff, said at a Wall Street Journal conference last month.

"And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before. ... What used to be long-term problems, be they in the health care area, energy area, education area — things ... that were long-term are now immediate and must be dealt with."


The Obama economic team is putting together a stimulus package worth as much as $1 trillion that will include middle-class tax cuts, plus down payments on energy independence through investments in green technology. It also will make a beginning at overhauling health care by computerizing medical records. None of that would be possible without the political mandate the recession has given the new administration.

"Fortunately, as tough as times are right now — and things are going to get worse before they get better — there is a convergence between circumstances and agenda," Obama said on NBC's Meet the Press.

The full story here, it is NPR and they are not more like liberals rather than conservatives so even the liberals should be happy with the source.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98593976

If you read the bold, underlined and red parts you will know what I mean

here are dems admitting that this crisis helped push through their garbage. This would never
have been possible without this horrible mess we are in, they have much more they want to do but will need more horrible messes to use for as an excuse to get it done.


I am sorry in advance for posting something that is hard to read

 

[Dr.Who]

and I think anyone who thinks that, should get a clue .

Here is a clue:

"And just before Obama signed the massive recovery package into law, press secretary Robert Gibbs said Obama would not rule out another stimulus in the future"

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/1039980.html

Here is another:

"I don't want to pretend that today marks the end of our economic problems, Nor does it constitute all of what we're going to have to do to turn our economy around." Said Obama from Denver -- Even as an aide hinted that another stimulus bill might be needed.

It is not like Obama is not copying the Japanese response to recession and they passed stimulus after stimulus after stimulus in a futile attempt to recover.

 

[Mr.Dysfunctional]

Absolutely perfect response. That was brilliant!

I'm with Pandora. If being "pro-America" equals the socialization of America, then I'm a proud un-American Conservative!

That mean I can finally burn Popeye and Pockets entire family at the stake for selling out the country to socialism you tratiorist bastards !!!

Or were you both thinking rush is not a traitor for supporting capitalism ...

I bet you both are so intune with Authism you would were the folks who sold out their neighbors during pre WW2 russia and germany just for disliking the current regime.

You both out to be hung for not supporting others rights to free speech.

BTW I hope to god Obama fails and the dow comes crashing to a halt at 3k... I hope to god it does so I can laugh meaninglessly at the entire lot of liberals and marxists... I will be one of the first to hold up a gun and support throwing out the current status quo of our government !!!! Let there be civil war so true equality may exist again!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Now stop... who's money? Who's money is Obama spending?

China's money.....the same cash that was financing this country's operations for the last-eight-years.

You Dead-O-Heads really do need to catch-up.

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