Question for democrats

[mark francis]

You just keep banging on about Hillary. Bottom line -- if she "stole" them, she gave them back. In the meantime, trump stole TOP-SECRET INTEL-- and likely sold it to the highest bidder. And latest reports indicate he STILL hasn't given it all back. Brik-a-brak vs nuclear secrets? I'll take brik-a-brak all day long.

Go ahead and try to justify by painting "everyone" with the same broad brush -- the truth is that the trump admin is THE most corrupt, criminal organization in our nation's history. He and his criminal cohorts and family makes Nixon look like the Von Trappe family. It's obvious now to anyone with a functioning brainstem; within 5-10 years, it will be even MORE apparent. But of course, the cult members will somehow turn themselves inside out defending him. You're like those escaped Nazis down in South America, waiting for the return of the Reich. Or the Japanese soldiers hiding in caves after WW2. Dead-enders. WTF are you defending?

PS -- I'm not "young," you patronizing goon. I've seen more than a few things. Hence, I can view reality.

The Clintons were two of the most corrupt politicians in the world and deluded followers seem oblivious to that fact. Trump was a good president for good people but a bad president in the eyes of bad people.

 

[Boris Norris]

The Clintons were two of the most corrupt politicians in the world and deluded followers seem oblivious to that fact.

Again, you boasted about giving your evidence but I notice you didn't. It's safe to say your a liar.

Trump was a good president for good people but a bad president in the eyes of bad people.

Trump played on the hatreds and fears of his xenophobic
support base. Only simpletons would believe that is a good POTUS.
He did nothing for this country of substance. Nothing for the poor or blacks, nothing to stop international conflict and perpetuated the lie he was cheated. He was a compete Buffon, right out of his intellectual capacity with no public relation skills or government experience.
He couldnt count past ten without using his toes.

But here again are all the nondescripts of similar capacities singing his praises as if he was likened to the second coming.

 

[mark francis]

Again, you boasted about giving your evidence but I notice you didn't. It's safe to say your a liar.


Trump played on the hatreds and fears of his xenophobic
support base. Only simpletons would believe that is a good POTUS.
He did nothing for this country of substance. Nothing for the poor or blacks, nothing to stop international conflict and perpetuated the lie he was cheated. He was a compete Buffon, right out of his intellectual capacity with no public relation skills or government experience.
He couldnt count past ten without using his toes.

But here again are all the nondescripts of similar capacities singing his praises as if he was likened to the second coming.

Stupidity causes the unlearned and unintelligent to call innocent people liars. They should be ashamed of themselves for that. Do you criticize me for not listing the hundreds of documents I have on file detailing the Clinton's corruption? Do you even understand what you think you are trying to say?

How about we start with this?


Clintons' top 10 pay-to-play allegations - Washington Times
Clintons’ top 10 pay-to-play allegations

Former President Bill Clinton, left, accompanied by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks at debate watch party at the Craig Ranch Regional Amphitheater in North Las Vegas, Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2016, following the third presidential debate.

By Kelly Riddell - The Washington Times - Monday, October 24, 2016

The Clintons’ have been involved in an elaborate pay-to-play scheme, auctioning off their personal time and government access, to the highest bidder. The Clinton Foundation was the vehicle used by foreign governments and dignitaries, in which they would donate money to in exchange for time with the potential next president, the former president, or beneficial treatment from the U.S. government while Hillary Clinton was serving as Secretary of State.

Although quid-pro-quo is notoriously hard to prove, here are the top 10 “coincidences” the American public is supposed to believe, where donors gave out money, with no expectation of anything in return.

1. Clinton ally aided the wife of an FBI agent who was investigating Mrs. Clinton’s email server

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The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe gave nearly $500,000 to the 2015 election campaign of the wife of an official at the FBI who helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email server, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday. All in all, aid directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or directly influenced by him, donated more than a third of all the campaign funds the FBI official’s wife fundraised, the Journal sad.

2. King of Morocco agreed to donate $12 million to Clinton Foundation and host a Clinton Global Initiative summit only if Mrs. Clinton attended a 2015 meeting

TOP STORIES

“No matter what happens, she [Hillary Clinton] will be in Morocco hosting CGI on May 5-7, 2015,” Huma Abedin, a top Hillary Clinton aide, wrote in a November 2014 email wrote to several other advisers, including campaign chairman John Podesta, which was released by WikiLeaks. “Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this.”

In January 2015, Abedin followed up with another email explaining in more detail why the future Democratic nominee couldn’t simply back out of the event in Morocco: “Just to give you some context, the condition upon which the Moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. If hrc was not part of it, meeting was a non-starter. CGI also wasn’t pushing for a meeting in Morocco and it wasn’t their first choice. This was HRC’s idea, our office approached the Moroccans and they 100 percent believe they are doing this at her request. The King has personally committed approx. $12 million both for the endowment and to the support the meeting. It will break a lot of china to back out now when we had so many opportunities to do it in the past few months.

Mrs. Clinton was ultimately convinced by her team the optics of the meeting wouldn’t look good so close to her presidential launch, so it was canceled.

3. Bill Clinton gets $1 million birthday present from Qatar for 5 minute meeting request

“[Qatar] would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” an employee at The Clinton Foundation said to numerous aides, including Doug Brand, according to an email released by WikiLeaks. “Qatar would welcome our suggestions for investments in Haiti — particularly on education and health. They have allocated most of their $20 million but are happy to consider projects we suggest. I’m collecting input from CF Haiti team.”

4. “Friends of Bill” (FOB) rewarded at State Department after 2010 Haiti earthquake

The State Department gave special attention to Bill Clinton’s friends after the Haiti earthquake. While Mrs. Clinton’s State Department sent on emails from Friends Of Bill (FOB) to senior officials coordinating the U.S. response to the Haiti earthquake, offers of aid from people that did not have connections to the Clintons were cast aside.

5. Crown Prince of Bahrain (a “good friend” of the Clinton Foundation) sought special access to Secretary Clinton

A June 23, 2009, email exposed by Judicial Watch, from Doug Band to Ms. Abedin noted that the Crown Prince of Bahrain (a “good friend of ours”) was asking to see Mrs. Clinton. The Crown Prince had contributed between $50,000 and $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation and spent $32 million on a scholarship fund launched through CGI. Ms. Abedin responded that the prince had sought a meeting through “normal” channels but had been turned down. Less than 48 hours after Mr. Band had asked her, Ms. Abedin said “we have reached out through official channels,” and meeting would commence.

6. Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. Gave Clinton Foundation Donors Weapons Deals

“Under Clinton’s leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times analysis of State Department and foundation data,” reports IBT. “That figure—derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012)—represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.”

7. Clinton State Dept. approved transfer of 20 percent of U.S. Uranium to Russian Government, as Clinton Foundation took in $145 million in donations from investors of the deal

According to a New York Times investigation, Mrs. Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that had to approve the Uranium One deal to the Russian government, which it did.

“The sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States,” the Times reported. According to their analysis, $145 million in donations was given to the Clinton Foundation by uranium executives lobbying for the deal. Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock, the Times reported.

8. A For-Profit University Put Bill Clinton on Its Payroll and received an increase in funding by Mrs. Clinton’s State Department

According to a report by Bloomberg: “in 2009, the year before Bill Clinton joined Laureate [Universities], the nonprofit received 11 grants worth $9 million from the State Department or the affiliated USAID. In 2010, the group received 14 grants worth $15.1 million. In 2011, 13 grants added up to $14.6 million. The following year, those numbers jumped: IYF received 21 grants worth $25.5 million, including a direct grant from the State Department.”

After Mrs. Clinton became secretary of state, Mr. Clinton received $17.6 million in payments from a for-profit university, CNN totaled. It was not clear what Mr. Clinton did serving as chair for the university.

9. The Clintons’ have made at least $26 million in speaking fees from entities who are top Clinton Foundation donors

“Bill Clinton was paid at least $26 million in speaking fees by companies and organizations that are also major donors to the foundation he created after leaving the White House, according to a Washington Post analysis of public records and foundation date,” the Post reported.

The report added, “Bill Clinton was paid more than $100 million for speeches between 2001 and 2013, according to federal financial disclosure forms filed by Hillary Clinton during her years as a senator and as secretary of state.”

10. Clinton Foundation cashed in as Sweden lobbied Clinton’s State Department on Iranian sanctions

Bill Clinton’s foundation set up a fundraising arm in Sweden that collected $26 million in donations at the same time that country was lobbying Hillary Clinton’s State Department to forgo sanctions that threatened its thriving business with Iran, according to a report by The Washington Times.

The Swedish entity, called the William J. Clinton Foundation Insamlingsstiftelse, was never disclosed to or cleared by State Department ethics officials, even though one of its largest sources of donations was a Swedish government-sanctioned lottery.

Copyright © 2022 The Washington Times, LLC.

 

[bluejersey14]

The Clintons were two of the most corrupt politicians in the world and deluded followers seem oblivious to that fact. Trump was a good president for good people but a bad president in the eyes of bad people.

"Deluded," thy name is Mark Francis. You've made them into such a boogeyman whole completely overlooking the well-documented criminality of trump. Russian mob ties? Check. Ripping off contractors? Check. Sexual assault? Check. Fraud/Trump U? Check. I could go on, but what's the point? This is how you cult members cope, so you do you. For sane Americans, it's amusing -- but a little sad-- to watch.

 

[mark francis]

"Deluded," thy name is Mark Francis. You've made them into such a boogeyman whole completely overlooking the well-documented criminality of trump. Russian mob ties? Check. Ripping off contractors? Check. Sexual assault? Check. Fraud/Trump U? Check. I could go on, but what's the point? This is how you cult members cope, so you do you. For sane Americans, it's amusing -- but a little sad-- to watch.

There is no Russian mob ties. The Russian spy the democrats tried to frame Trump with was kicked out of Trump Tower before she could pull the democrat scam off. Nice try, but no cigar, Hillary, Shame on you and your lawyers for attempting such a heinous crime of deception.

 

[bluejersey14]

There is no Russian mob ties. The Russian spy the democrats tried to frame Trump with was kicked out of Trump Tower before she could pull the democrat scam off. Nice try, but no cigar, Hillary, Shame on you and your lawyers for attempting such a heinous crime of deception.

You're such an easy mark. Trump "sold" many apts in TTower to russian mobsters in the 80s/90s. He had a sketchy deal in FL where he "bought" an overpriced, unlived-in house from a russian oligarch, then "sold" it at an exorbitant price. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html

https://www.morgancountycitizen.com/opinion/a-look-back-at-the-russian-mob-and-its-connections-with-donald-trump/article_7c14afe6-01f7-11ed-adab-33fa14194744.html

The Alleged Russian Mobsters in Trump World’s Orbit: A Dirty Dozen

The impeachment investigations will have as constant background Trump’s most important and long lasting connections to Russia—through alleged mobsters.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[the annoying thing]

You just keep banging on about Hillary. Bottom line -- if she "stole" them, she gave them back. In the meantime, trump stole TOP-SECRET INTEL-- and likely sold it to the highest bidder. And latest reports indicate he STILL hasn't given it all back. Brik-a-brak vs nuclear secrets? I'll take brik-a-brak all day long.

Go ahead and try to justify by painting "everyone" with the same broad brush -- the truth is that the trump admin is THE most corrupt, criminal organization in our nation's history. He and his criminal cohorts and family makes Nixon look like the Von Trappe family. It's obvious now to anyone with a functioning brainstem; within 5-10 years, it will be even MORE apparent. But of course, the cult members will somehow turn themselves inside out defending him. You're like those escaped Nazis down in South America, waiting for the return of the Reich. Or the Japanese soldiers hiding in caves after WW2. Dead-enders. WTF are you defending?

PS -- I'm not "young," you patronizing goon. I've seen more than a few things. Hence, I can view reality.

when you have evidence that trump stole top secret documents and sold then please post it , o what there is no evidence of that you say?

NowI will be the first to say I dont know what was on the documents trump took and to make a true judgement we would need to know. It makes a difference was it low lower level or out of date ? as to the severity of the issue for example
same thing with joe Biden lying about not knowing hunters' business partners if he lied just to avoid bad press but he had only really met them socially is one thing but if he met them and profited from it by selling favors is another.

Now you claim hes selling secrets hey, what information do you base that claim on ?
Please share it with us all Mr. Cuomo

 

[the annoying thing]

Yes it makes perfect sense a former president and multi billionaire who donated his entire salary to charity while President and one of the most well-known men in the entire world is going to steal documents and sell them t9 some unknown nation.
you explain to me exactly how he would accomplish that with Secret Service agents around him 24 hours a day. The man cant go anywhere with out some one recognizing him and possibly posting it on social media and he's got a 24-hour Secret Service protection unit .
And the fact he's worth around 2 to 3 billion what would his motive be ?
Now so you know i am not defensing him and he was not who i wanted to see elected or elected again.

 

[bluejersey14]

when you have evidence that trump stole top secret documents and sold then please post it , o what there is no evidence of that you say?

NowI will be the first to say I dont know what was on the documents trump took and to make a true judgement we would need to know. It makes a difference was it low lower level or out of date ? as to the severity of the issue for example
same thing with joe Biden lying about not knowing hunters' business partners if he lied just to avoid bad press but he had only really met them socially is one thing but if he met them and profited from it by selling favors is another.

Now you claim hes selling secrets hey, what information do you base that claim on ?
Please share it with us all Mr. Cuomo

You really do live in a cave, don't you?

How the Picture of Top Secret Folders at Mar-a-Lago Came About (Published 2022)

Federal agents arrayed classified materials on a floor at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida residence for a photograph as a standard part of their evidence-gathering procedures.

www.nytimes.com

 

[mark francis]

You're such an easy mark. Trump "sold" many apts in TTower to russian mobsters in the 80s/90s. He had a sketchy deal in FL where he "bought" an overpriced, unlived-in house from a russian oligarch, then "sold" it at an exorbitant price. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/trumps-businesses-are-full-of-dirty-russian-money-the-scandal-is-thats-legal/2019/03/29/11b812da-5171-11e9-88a1-ed346f0ec94f_story.html

https://www.morgancountycitizen.com/opinion/a-look-back-at-the-russian-mob-and-its-connections-with-donald-trump/article_7c14afe6-01f7-11ed-adab-33fa14194744.html

The Alleged Russian Mobsters in Trump World’s Orbit: A Dirty Dozen

The impeachment investigations will have as constant background Trump’s most important and long lasting connections to Russia—through alleged mobsters.

www.thedailybeast.com

Oh, I see. The Trump organization rented out apartments to Russians 3 generations ago. No wonder I could not see the mob connection, it only exists in the minds of people with bad judgment and poor intellect.

 

[mark francis]

You really do live in a cave, don't you?

How the Picture of Top Secret Folders at Mar-a-Lago Came About (Published 2022)

Federal agents arrayed classified materials on a floor at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida residence for a photograph as a standard part of their evidence-gathering procedures.

www.nytimes.com

A legal search warrant would not have been open-ended and would not have involved witch hunting partisan thugs stealing everything in sight. The warrant should have listed the specific items to be retrieved and nothing else should have been touched, but these crooks were not interested in doing things legally. They were there to steal papers that belonged to Trump which he intended to file against Hillary for creating the false Trump/Russian conspiracy theory the leftwing media used for so many years to unmercifully slander Trump illegally and unjustly.

 

[Boris Norris]

Stupidity causes the unlearned and unintelligent to call innocent people liars. They should be ashamed of themselves for that. Do you criticize me for not listing the hundreds of documents I have on file detailing the Clinton's corruption? Do you even understand what you think you are trying to say?

How about we start with this?


Clintons' top 10 pay-to-play allegations - Washington Times
Clintons’ top 10 pay-to-play allegations

Former President Bill Clinton, left, accompanied by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton speaks at debate watch party at the Craig Ranch Regional Amphitheater in North Las Vegas, Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2016, following the third presidential debate.

By Kelly Riddell - The Washington Times - Monday, October 24, 2016

The Clintons’ have been involved in an elaborate pay-to-play scheme, auctioning off their personal time and government access, to the highest bidder. The Clinton Foundation was the vehicle used by foreign governments and dignitaries, in which they would donate money to in exchange for time with the potential next president, the former president, or beneficial treatment from the U.S. government while Hillary Clinton was serving as Secretary of State.

Although quid-pro-quo is notoriously hard to prove, here are the top 10 “coincidences” the American public is supposed to believe, where donors gave out money, with no expectation of anything in return.

1. Clinton ally aided the wife of an FBI agent who was investigating Mrs. Clinton’s email server

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The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe gave nearly $500,000 to the 2015 election campaign of the wife of an official at the FBI who helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email server, the Wall Street Journal reported on Monday. All in all, aid directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or directly influenced by him, donated more than a third of all the campaign funds the FBI official’s wife fundraised, the Journal sad.

2. King of Morocco agreed to donate $12 million to Clinton Foundation and host a Clinton Global Initiative summit only if Mrs. Clinton attended a 2015 meeting

TOP STORIES

“No matter what happens, she [Hillary Clinton] will be in Morocco hosting CGI on May 5-7, 2015,” Huma Abedin, a top Hillary Clinton aide, wrote in a November 2014 email wrote to several other advisers, including campaign chairman John Podesta, which was released by WikiLeaks. “Her presence was a condition for the Moroccans to proceed so there is no going back on this.”

In January 2015, Abedin followed up with another email explaining in more detail why the future Democratic nominee couldn’t simply back out of the event in Morocco: “Just to give you some context, the condition upon which the Moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. If hrc was not part of it, meeting was a non-starter. CGI also wasn’t pushing for a meeting in Morocco and it wasn’t their first choice. This was HRC’s idea, our office approached the Moroccans and they 100 percent believe they are doing this at her request. The King has personally committed approx. $12 million both for the endowment and to the support the meeting. It will break a lot of china to back out now when we had so many opportunities to do it in the past few months.

Mrs. Clinton was ultimately convinced by her team the optics of the meeting wouldn’t look good so close to her presidential launch, so it was canceled.

3. Bill Clinton gets $1 million birthday present from Qatar for 5 minute meeting request

“[Qatar] would like to see WJC ‘for five minutes’ in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC’s birthday in 2011,” an employee at The Clinton Foundation said to numerous aides, including Doug Brand, according to an email released by WikiLeaks. “Qatar would welcome our suggestions for investments in Haiti — particularly on education and health. They have allocated most of their $20 million but are happy to consider projects we suggest. I’m collecting input from CF Haiti team.”

4. “Friends of Bill” (FOB) rewarded at State Department after 2010 Haiti earthquake

The State Department gave special attention to Bill Clinton’s friends after the Haiti earthquake. While Mrs. Clinton’s State Department sent on emails from Friends Of Bill (FOB) to senior officials coordinating the U.S. response to the Haiti earthquake, offers of aid from people that did not have connections to the Clintons were cast aside.

5. Crown Prince of Bahrain (a “good friend” of the Clinton Foundation) sought special access to Secretary Clinton

A June 23, 2009, email exposed by Judicial Watch, from Doug Band to Ms. Abedin noted that the Crown Prince of Bahrain (a “good friend of ours”) was asking to see Mrs. Clinton. The Crown Prince had contributed between $50,000 and $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation and spent $32 million on a scholarship fund launched through CGI. Ms. Abedin responded that the prince had sought a meeting through “normal” channels but had been turned down. Less than 48 hours after Mr. Band had asked her, Ms. Abedin said “we have reached out through official channels,” and meeting would commence.

6. Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. Gave Clinton Foundation Donors Weapons Deals

“Under Clinton’s leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an International Business Times analysis of State Department and foundation data,” reports IBT. “That figure—derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012)—represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.”

7. Clinton State Dept. approved transfer of 20 percent of U.S. Uranium to Russian Government, as Clinton Foundation took in $145 million in donations from investors of the deal

According to a New York Times investigation, Mrs. Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that had to approve the Uranium One deal to the Russian government, which it did.

“The sale gave the Russians control of one-fifth of all uranium production capacity in the United States,” the Times reported. According to their analysis, $145 million in donations was given to the Clinton Foundation by uranium executives lobbying for the deal. Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock, the Times reported.

8. A For-Profit University Put Bill Clinton on Its Payroll and received an increase in funding by Mrs. Clinton’s State Department

According to a report by Bloomberg: “in 2009, the year before Bill Clinton joined Laureate [Universities], the nonprofit received 11 grants worth $9 million from the State Department or the affiliated USAID. In 2010, the group received 14 grants worth $15.1 million. In 2011, 13 grants added up to $14.6 million. The following year, those numbers jumped: IYF received 21 grants worth $25.5 million, including a direct grant from the State Department.”

After Mrs. Clinton became secretary of state, Mr. Clinton received $17.6 million in payments from a for-profit university, CNN totaled. It was not clear what Mr. Clinton did serving as chair for the university.

9. The Clintons’ have made at least $26 million in speaking fees from entities who are top Clinton Foundation donors

“Bill Clinton was paid at least $26 million in speaking fees by companies and organizations that are also major donors to the foundation he created after leaving the White House, according to a Washington Post analysis of public records and foundation date,” the Post reported.

The report added, “Bill Clinton was paid more than $100 million for speeches between 2001 and 2013, according to federal financial disclosure forms filed by Hillary Clinton during her years as a senator and as secretary of state.”

10. Clinton Foundation cashed in as Sweden lobbied Clinton’s State Department on Iranian sanctions

Bill Clinton’s foundation set up a fundraising arm in Sweden that collected $26 million in donations at the same time that country was lobbying Hillary Clinton’s State Department to forgo sanctions that threatened its thriving business with Iran, according to a report by The Washington Times.

The Swedish entity, called the William J. Clinton Foundation Insamlingsstiftelse, was never disclosed to or cleared by State Department ethics officials, even though one of its largest sources of donations was a Swedish government-sanctioned lottery.

Copyright © 2022 The Washington Times, LLC.

Honestly, I don't care what is alleged. Let me know when they have been charged with some crime. Until then it appears your are the liar.

Spend you time researching trivial rebuttals. It means nothing to me. You're just another revengeful hate filled republicans and yourthfully inexperienced in facts also.

 

[the annoying thing]

You really do live in a cave, don't you?

How the Picture of Top Secret Folders at Mar-a-Lago Came About (Published 2022)

Federal agents arrayed classified materials on a floor at former President Donald J. Trump’s Florida residence for a photograph as a standard part of their evidence-gathering procedures.

www.nytimes.com

No I have already seen that article and it changes nothing we sont know what is in those documents and more then likely never will. For gods sake they still have documents from Vietnam classified. And you offer no evidence trump was trying to sell them and to who.
I will agree as it at stands I see no reason for him to have them . your missing the entire point blue .

 

[Wry Catcher]

if you are retired cop then you know democrats make up a vast majority of criminals

O yes as you mentioned trump he lies also and is a ego manic but he has nowhere near lied about himself as joe has

What makes you believe I'm a retired cop? There are numerous LE agencies. That stated, your two statements above are ludicrous.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What did Trump do to convince you he is a fascist? Tell you you could not leave your home due to a health pandemic? Tell you you could not go to church during a time of crisis? Tell you you will go to jail if you do not support homosexuality and perverted leftist gender confusion? Warn you that if you object to voter fraud you could be locked up indefinitely in solitary confinement in a DC dungeon? Something else?

The 14 Characteristics of Fascism, by Lawrence Britt, Spring 2003, is What did Trump has done to convince you he is a fascist.

Read the link and try to put your biases aside, then consider how Trump's words and deeds fit in most of these 14 points.