Proof that christians are stupid

[Dr.Who]

The thing is, and I know you know this, liberalism has no qualms condemning Christians and Christianity. Yet they go to great lengths to appease and commend all kinds of cultural diversity and abhorrent behaviors.

Just another example of their over-the-top hypocrisy.

Liberalism is always about picking special groups. They tend to reject absolute truth and embrace subjectvism instead so I don't see the hypocrisy.

 

[Gipper]

This column is well stated and pertinent to our discussion. It states that Socialism has three main goals are the destruction of private property, the family, and religion. I believe Liberals are doing a good job of attaining those goals in America today. It also states the number one priority of liberals today is the unrestricted access to baby murder. How disgusting it is that killing is their number one issue.

It is distressing that the run-of-mill American liberal fails to comprehend this.

What do modern leftism (American liberalism) and communism have in common? Both are godless and egalitarian, but liberalism has “evolved.”
Communists wanted to kill off capitalism, for example, but liberals know it must be preserved—in a highly taxed and regulated form. It must be permitted to create sufficient wealth to redistribute to favored groups—single mothers, minorities, college professors—if the system is to keep Democrats in office. Liberals want market outcomes to be “predictable.” Appeals to envy and blame heaped on the rich can also be used as a bludgeon, as Obama has shown.
The liberals do follow the Communists in aspiring to crush “organized religion”—Christianity in particular. A book that influenced me was The Socialist Phenomenon (1979), by Igor Shafarevich, a Russian mathematician and a friend of Solzhenitsyn’s. Socialism began as a Christian heresy, he points out, and it has three primary goals: the destruction of private property, the family, and religion. If achieved, this would ensure that everyone will be dependent on the state or the ruling power.
The liberal-left, who in some ways constitute our intelligentsia, are never reliably in power in a democracy. It frustrates them that they must submit to majority rule. Hence the importance they attach to the Supreme Court, a tribunal where five votes can enforce the things they most care about. Unrestricted access to abortion is probably their top issue today, and has been for some time.
In some ways, present-day liberalism is far more radical than Communism ever was. Consider, for example, the current pretense that there are no real differences between the sexes, or that same-sex marriage is a desirable policy goal. Communists entertained no such delusions.
http://spectator.org/archives/2012/12/12/fifty-years-in-america/print

 

[Gipper]

You may have seen my posts proving that there is no point in prayer

For those who haven't it goes like this

If god's plan is immutable then he isn't going to change it because one of his followers asks him to

And if his plan is not immutable it was not perfect and so he's not God.

This is clear proof that there is no point asking god for anything

And yet christians carry on doing it

And that is just stupid

May my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, forgive you. God loves you and yet you spit in His face. I pray He will forgive you.

To be born again (saved), God only requires for a person to realize their sinful condition and come to the Savior, Jesus Christ, for forgiveness. (Romans 10:13)

Repeat after me - "Dear God, today I turn from all my sins (name them), and I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. Please forgive me, and grant me your gift of everlasting life. Amen"

Merry Christmas!

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

God will not forgive me sadly and he doesn't love me

The main reason being that he is a fictional character

But why do I need to do the bizarre things you say

Either god's plan includes me as 'born again' or it doesn't and he isn't going to change that plan

Is he?

Wasn't much of a plan if he is

But thanks for supplying yet more evidence of the stupidity of Christianity

Merry Xmas

 

[TheJPRD]

So, Mr. Dawkins is attacking Christians on this thread too I see. Bigotted, isn't he! Leftists love to tell us that all Muslims are not terrorists. We Conservatives agree! Leftists love to tell us that all gay men are not pedophiles. We Conservatives agree! However, note how they're quick to attack ALL Christians as being stupid! It appears that although not all leftists are selective bigots, MOST are!

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Not impressed

Explain the point of payer

Explain why god made the devil knowing how he would turn out

Explain how you can gave free will in the context of an immutable plan

Explain why (alleged) free will is a get out of jail card for god even though he allegedly created it knowing how it would be used

Explain how the kangaroos got back from the ark to Australia without breeding en route

Explain why it is loving to ask one of your followers to kill his son to answer a question you already knew the answer to

 

[TheJPRD]

You may have seen my posts proving that there is no point in prayer

For those who haven't it goes like this

If god's plan is immutable then he isn't going to change it because one of his followers asks him to

And if his plan is not immutable it was not perfect and so he's not God.

This is clear proof that there is no point asking god for anything

And yet christians carry on doing it

And that is just stupid

I replied to your similar post on the thread "THE AVERAGE FOX VIEWER". My response there addresses your general commentary on this thread. Following is that quoted response to you there:

"You've made a significant error in your assessment of my belief system, kid! That's not really surprising since leftists don't accept the fact that human beings are individuals, NOT just sheep in some homogeneous good or evil group! I am indeed a Christian, but I'm wise enough to differentiate between truth and Church doctrine, dogma, and Biblical writings that don't ring true to me as being the word of God.

When I began reading the Bible, most of the Christian philosophy described therein rang true to me, and I'll argue that such philosophy is or should be accepted as "universal truth". Those Bibilical teachings I accept as factual and easily supported in debate. Other statements in the Bible impress me more as the thoughts or concepts of individual human beings, and therefore are open to question and critique. Unlike some Christians and ALL leftists, I don't claim to know God's will nor His means and methods.

Nice try, kid, but you picked the wrong person to debate statements that I myself see as questionable and inconsistent! As for the existence of God, however, I have no doubt, nor should any intelligent human being. Something cannot be created from nothing, and that's a fact of physical science, not a Biblical point of view. Perhaps you should explain how something CAN be created from nothing? Once you've done that successfully, you'll have made a worthy stab at disproving God's existence. Till then, don't keep delving into concepts you're incapable of understanding! So much for the "intelligence" of a non-FOX viewer!"

NOW, so much for your contention that Christians are stupid, and thanks for adding support to my claim that leftists ARE!

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Look, I know that taking a condescending sanctimonious stance that avoids answering the point gets dog and his chums by but they don't claim to be the sharpest tool in the box

If you are going to live up to your claims about your argumentative prowess you really are going to have to do a little better

The points I raised above are totally devastating to Christianity but Christians are either too stupid to understand that or too stupid to ditch their ludicrous religion

Which one(s) are you?

 

[TheJPRD]

Look, I know that taking a condescending sanctimonious stance that avoids answering the point gets dog and his chums by but they don't claim to be the sharpest tool in the box?

I DID answer your point, kid! I clearly told you that I don't understand nor do I "buy" some Biblical statements and contentions. It would be stupid to try and argue a premise in which I don't believe. If you wish to argue those kind of statements, you'll have to do so with someone who understands and believes them.

If you are going to live up to your claims about your argumentative prowess you really are going to have to do a little better

Your lack of logic is exceptional. It's like asking someone to prove it's dark outside when the sun is shining. I debate subjects that I understand, not ones that make no sense to me. Apparently, your only intent in this post and others is to ridicule those who believe in God. That is a hateful and bigotted objective! I don't hate all atheists, for many are kind, decent, and well-intended human beings who judge people on individual character, NOT on whether they do or don't believe in God. You obviously despise everyone who believes in God, rather than respect their individual religious beliefs and Constitutional rights. It's a very un-American perspective!

America is a nation of inclusion. Even though Christmas is a Christian holiday, most Christians welcome ALL Americans to participate and be included. If you don't want to be included, that's fine too. If you want to force Christians and Jews to accept your arrogant and devisive concepts that destroy our religious celebrations and beliefs, then you're nothing but an unenlightened demogogue and dictator! Perhaps you'd be happier in North Korea???

The points I raised above are totally devastating to Christianity but Christians are either too stupid to understand that or too stupid to ditch their ludicrous religion? Which one(s) are you?

I can't speak for other religious folks here, but I'm not the least bit "devastated" by the points you raised. As for being "stupid", I've never been accused of having that flaw. "Stupidity" might well be defined as an irrational hatred of something that does you no harm and doesn't threaten your personal safety and comfort in any way. Much like your hatred of persons of the Christian and Jewish faith. Bigotry itself is a sign of stupidity.

 

[dogtowner]

I DID answer your point, kid! I clearly told you that I don't understand nor do I "buy" some Biblical statements and contentions. It would be stupid to try and argue a premise in which I don't believe. If you wish to argue those kind of statements, you'll have to do so with someone who understands and believes them.



Your lack of logic is exceptional. It's like asking someone to prove it's dark outside when the sun is shining. I debate subjects that I understand, not ones that make no sense to me. Apparently, your only intent in this post and others is to ridicule those who believe in God. That is a hateful and bigotted objective! I don't hate all atheists, for many are kind, decent, and well-intended human beings who judge people on individual character, NOT on whether they do or don't believe in God. You obviously despise everyone who believes in God, rather than respect their individual religious beliefs and Constitutional rights. It's a very un-American perspective!

America is a nation of inclusion. Even though Christmas is a Christian holiday, most Christians welcome ALL Americans to participate and be included. If you don't want to be included, that's fine too. If you want to force Christians and Jews to accept your arrogant and devisive concepts that destroy our religious celebrations and beliefs, then you're nothing but an unenlightened demogogue and dictator! Perhaps you'd be happier in North Korea???



I can't speak for other religious folks here, but I'm not the least bit "devastated" by the points you raised. As for being "stupid", I've never been accused of having that flaw. "Stupidity" might well be defined as an irrational hatred of something that does you no harm and doesn't threaten your personal safety and comfort in any way. Much like your hatred of persons of the Christian and Jewish faith. Bigotry itself is a sign of stupidity.

D's debat tactic of ignoring anything that does not conform to his misconceptions is all he has to support his need to throw poop at what he dislikes.

 

[Dr.Who]

The points I raised above are totally devastating to Christianity but Christians are either too stupid to understand that or too stupid to ditch their ludicrous religion

No, not so much. I saw your points countered and you just ignored what was said and continued to make your points again and again and again.

 

[Gipper]

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything." --- GK Chesterton

 

[dogtowner]

No, not so much. I saw your points countered and you just ignored what was said and continued to make your points again and again and again.

he's a one trick pony. if forced out of his box all he can do it crawl back in. to do otherwise would be to admit the falicy of his views.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

No

I have made points that destroy religion and you are either to stubborn or stupid to drop your belief in it

Here's one for you

What are angels for?

If god is omnipotent and omnipresent why does he need angels?

Actually this one has made me laugh out loud

I'm arguing with people who believe in men who have wings

 

[dogtowner]

No

I have made points that destroy religion and you are either to stubborn or stupid to drop your belief in it

Here's one for you

What are angels for?

If god is omnipotent and omnipresent why does he need angels?

Actually this one has made me laugh out loud

I'm arguing with people who believe in men who have wings

why do we need atheists ? or anything else for that matter ?