Pro-illegal alien Nightmare Act stopped in Maryland

[Rick]

Scornful?

You put quotes around it in a way that is a common method of derision, if you are unaware of that. If that wasn't your intention, why DID you put in the quotes?

Just because you don't like a news story doesn't make it "false arguments."

As I carefully explained to you, but you don't have the intellect to grasp, the "no americans will do the work" is an illogical and false argument, it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with whether I liked a typical biased lib media "news story". (See? scornful quotes. )

You offer your opinion, and I respect your right to do that.

It wasn't an "opinion".

 

[Openmind]

You put quotes around it in a way that is a common method of derision, if you are unaware of that. If that wasn't your intention, why DID you put in the quotes?



As I carefully explained to you, but you don't have the intellect to grasp, the "no americans will do the work" is an illogical and false argument, it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with whether I liked a typical biased lib media "news story". (See? scornful quotes. )



It wasn't an "opinion".

I don't think any of these comments are worth a reply.
So, you may have to figure it out yourself.

 

[Rick]

I don't think any of these comments are worth a reply.
So, you may have to figure it out yourself.

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[Openmind]

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it isn't worth talking to you - you not only don't know when you've been refuted, you appear not to even be able to grasp what's been said.

:d:d

 

[Rick]

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:d:d

You can't even handle smilies, eh?

 

[Openmind]

You can't even handle smilies, eh?

 

[TruthSeeker]

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[Rick]

It appears that the leftwing has tried to start preparing the political ground for 2012 by sending members of the koolaid kiddie korps out to the internet, armed with standard leftwing talking points, cant, slogans, and little else. While such people are usually easily dismissed logically, one must remember that there are undoubtedly many voters for whom fiction endlessly repeated becomes the "truth". When hearing an observation that the soviet soldiers and their equipment in WWII were inferior to the germans, and only exceeded them in quantity, Stalin responded that "quantity has a quality of its own."

 

[TruthSeeker]

It appears that the leftwing has tried to start preparing the political ground for 2012 by sending members of the koolaid kiddie korps out to the internet, armed with standard leftwing talking points, cant, slogans, and little else. While such people are usually easily dismissed logically, one must remember that there are undoubtedly many voters for whom fiction endlessly repeated becomes the "truth". When hearing an observation that the soviet soldiers and their equipment in WWII were inferior to the germans, and only exceeded them in quantity, Stalin responded that "quantity has a quality of its own."

The leftists are receiving their 2012 Obama re-election "kits" in the mail:

1. "Four More Years Of Hope & Change!" T-shirt

2. Two dozen bumper sticker slogans

3. The "Progressive Democrat Book Of Dirty Tricks" pamphlet

4. List of internet forum addresses

5. 18 month supply of black cherry Kool-Aid

6. Home lobotomy kit

 

[PLC1]

The "leftwing" doesn't want to end illegal immigration.

The "rightwing" doesn't either. If they did, then they would have done something when we had a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican in the WH.

The federal government has been avoiding this issue for decades. The only difference between the two "wings" is that the "righwing" wants to pay lip service and rant about how it's all the fault of the Democrats.

That argument doesn't hold water. The underlying reason that nothing is done is the lobbyists paid for by people who like the cheap labor, pure and simple.

The cost of educating and providing other services for illegals is a subsidy to those entities that depend on cheap labor.

 

[Rick]

The "leftwing" doesn't want to end illegal immigration.

The "rightwing" doesn't either. If they did, then they would have done something when we had a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican in the WH.

Once again, the refusal to distinguish conservatives from the now-fading RINO republican party establishment. Card carrying RINO George W. Bush had this nutsy idea that by allowing in the illegal alien hordes, he'd get the hispanic vote - didn't work. But even to try to equate that with the active promotion by the leftwing of the illegal alien invasion by every means possible is silly.

That argument doesn't hold water. The underlying reason that nothing is done is the lobbyists paid for by people who like the cheap labor, pure and simple.

Not on your life. Yes, labor-intensive industries influence the RINOs. That is just a tiny fragment of the republican constituencies, and even some of thoise people support democrats. By contrast, the whole liberal establishmenbt, from the catholic church to the teachers unions to the racial minority groups to the feminazis - all of them - support the invasion because they correctly see it as the means to permanent political power, and for a liberal/leftwinger, poltical power is EVERYTHING.

 

[PLC1]

Once again, the refusal to distinguish conservatives from the now-fading RINO republican party establishment. Card carrying RINO George W. Bush had this nutsy idea that by allowing in the illegal alien hordes, he'd get the hispanic vote - didn't work. But even to try to equate that with the active promotion by the leftwing of the illegal alien invasion by every means possible is silly.



Not on your life. Yes, labor-intensive industries influence the RINOs. That is just a tiny fragment of the republican constituencies, and even some of thoise people support democrats. By contrast, the whole liberal establishmenbt, from the catholic church to the teachers unions to the racial minority groups to the feminazis - all of them - support the invasion because they correctly see it as the means to permanent political power, and for a liberal/leftwinger, poltical power is EVERYTHING.

You do remember which president signed amnesty into law, don't you?

Was he a RINO, or was that all the fault of the liberal Congress?

 

[Rick]

You do remember which president signed amnesty into law, don't you?

Was he a RINO, or was that all the fault of the liberal Congress?

Ahh, I knew someone would come up with the infamous half-histories about Reagan. (Another one is the "Reagan raised taxes.")

Reagan signed the 1986 amnesty, affecting about 1 million illegals, as a humanitarian gesture, and on the agreement of everyone then that that should be a once and for all, never repeated act.

Besides leftwingers having as usual lied about their intentions for the future, that act 25 years ago is utterly not comparable to the conditions in 2011, when leftwingers want to balkanize the country with up to 20 million illegals (not counting the effects of chain immigration) as part of a deliberate plan to obtain permanent political power, when the US has the most leftwing president in US history, when highly unassimilated hispanics from the 1986 amnesty and the new illegals have a high birthrate and are creating a country within a country, when the nation and states are going bankrupt, and when the country faces huge new challenges from countries like china, an integrated europe, and india, and needs high quality educated immigrants, not illiterate peons from rural mexico to further burden the collapsing welfare system.

 

[PLC1]

Ahh, I knew someone would come up with the infamous half-histories about Reagan. (Another one is the "Reagan raised taxes.")

Reagan signed the 1986 amnesty, affecting about 1 million illegals, as a humanitarian gesture, and on the agreement of everyone then that that should be a once and for all, never repeated act.

Besides leftwingers having as usual lied about their intentions for the future, that act 25 years ago is utterly not comparable to the conditions in 2011, when leftwingers want to balkanize the country with up to 20 million illegals (not counting the effects of chain immigration) as part of a deliberate plan to obtain permanent political power, when the US has the most leftwing president in US history, when highly unassimilated hispanics from the 1986 amnesty and the new illegals have a high birthrate and are creating a country within a country, when the nation and states are going bankrupt, and when the country faces huge new challenges from countries like china, an integrated europe, and india, and needs high quality educated immigrants, not illiterate peons from rural mexico to further burden the collapsing welfare system.

So, it was the fault of the evil "leftwingers" who lied to the great conservative.

As for raising taxes, were you aware that Governor Reagan, of the great liberal state of California, signed into law the biggest tax increase in state history?

I'm not so sure that there is anyone who really fits your definition of "conservative".

 

[Rick]

So, it was the fault of the evil "leftwingers" who lied to the great conservative.

Exactly correct - well said.

As for raising taxes, were you aware that Governor Reagan, of the great liberal state of California, signed into law the biggest tax increase in state history?

More half history. It was the biggest increase at that time (1982) and was made necessary by the huge deficit he inherited by his democrat predecessor. It was $1 billion, a drop in the bucket compared to the $40 billion deficit created by the libs who followed him in the state government.

Incidentally, give me your list of conservatives NOW who are calling for tax hikes and a welcome mat for illegal aliens.