Parade of colored revolutions. Who is the next?

[sonyagreen]

Democracy. Throughout the history this word leads people to strike for freedom and their rights. Revolutions, rallies, riots, wars are shaking the world. STOP! Human beings are not brutal by their nature, then how did we come down to it? Isn't there anybody benefiting from keeping masses on a short leash? They are puppeteers playing a game called "organize a colored revolution, lead the crowd, and rule the country the way you want". They utilize simple, yet powerful rule, "The easiest way to manipulate people is by playing on their emotions." They oppress and blacken anyone trying to expose them, because it's easier to manipulate unaware, unorganized crowd. This is the current situation worldwide. Don't you care that this much talked-about "democracy" prove its values at the cost of people's lives?

 

[sonyagreen]

For example, snow revolution in Russia acts in interests of same World elite, which set Putin for power. Putin has already exposed himself with his deceitful policy, and people may nominate their own leader. Not to lose their "clout" in power, the world's elite puts forward its protege under the cover of Putin's disclosure. Color revolutions are fulfilled in the interests of elite, not common people. And interests of elite contradict interests of people, whichever country is concerned.
There does exist a real opposition in Russia. It's the VOLYA party and its leader Svetlana Peunova. Today they appeal to everybody for informational support.

 

[Aus22]

An election for Pution is not a vote for democracy, However I dnot no a vate forthis opposition is any better.

 

[WolfLarsen]

Maybe there will be a revolution the United States of America. People are sick and tired of so much unemployment, stingy wages, insurance companies bleeding the medical system dry, banks stealing American homes, endless wars, etc. ad nauseam.

We need democracy in the USA! Did you know that one out of every four persons in jail in the world is in jail in the USA, mostly because of drugs. Why should somebody be thrown in jail, where they might get raped, just because they smoke marijuana? That doesn't sound like democracy to me!

And now President B.O. just signed into law a bill giving the military the right to indefinitely detain Americans without a trial.

So you get to choose between the Democrats and the Republicans. So what! A recent poll shows that most Americans want all the politicians in Congress of both parties thrown out on the street. These politicians are a bunch of prostitutes of the rich.

 

[dogtowner]

Maybe there will be a revolution the United States of America. People are sick and tired of so much unemployment, stingy wages, insurance companies bleeding the medical system dry, banks stealing American homes, endless wars, etc. ad nauseam.

We need democracy in the USA! Did you know that one out of every four persons in jail in the world is in jail in the USA, mostly because of drugs. Why should somebody be thrown in jail, where they might get raped, just because they smoke marijuana? That doesn't sound like democracy to me!

And now President B.O. just signed into law a bill giving the military the right to indefinitely detain Americans without a trial.

So you get to choose between the Democrats and the Republicans. So what! A recent poll shows that most Americans want all the politicians in Congress of both parties thrown out on the street. These politicians are a bunch of prostitutes of the rich.

the military is not the one to do the detaining, its the administration with no oversight.
I'm good with throwing all of them out IF its ALL of them.

 

[WolfLarsen]

There you go! Let's throw all the capitalist politicians out! Let them flip hamburgers at McDonald's! After all, under socialism everyone will have the right to a job. So the former billionaires and capitalist politicians of both political parties can flip hamburgers.

Just think, under socialism it might be a lot of fun going to McDonald's. There will be George Bush dressed up as Ronald McDonald the clown. (He's such a good clown!) That Dick Cheney can clean the toilets and mop the floors and take out the garbage. I think we should put Barack Obama behind the cash register because he seems pretty competent, at least compared to those crazy Republicans. And I can just see Hillary and Bill Clinton flipping hamburgers in the kitchen. I think it will be a lot of fun to go to McDonald's under socialism!

And so you sit down and eat your hamburger and you look out the window and there's some former billionaire derivatives traders picking garbage off the ground for minimum wage. Yippee! I think socialism will be fun!

 

[Aus22]

There you go! Let's throw all the capitalist politicians out! Let them flip hamburgers at McDonald's! After all, under socialism everyone will have the right to a job. So the former billionaires and capitalist politicians of both political parties can flip hamburgers.

Just think, under socialism it might be a lot of fun going to McDonald's. There will be George Bush dressed up as Ronald McDonald the clown. (He's such a good clown!) That Dick Cheney can clean the toilets and mop the floors and take out the garbage. I think we should put Barack Obama behind the cash register because he seems pretty competent, at least compared to those crazy Republicans. And I can just see Hillary and Bill Clinton flipping hamburgers in the kitchen. I think it will be a lot of fun to go to McDonald's under socialism!

And so you sit down and eat your hamburger and you look out the window and there's some former billionaire derivatives traders picking garbage off the ground for minimum wage. Yippee! I think socialism will be fun!

I afraid Socialism is not the answer. We have has socialist government in Australia and Europe but there are still problems. Even in Australia which has no recession the Labor Government will be thrown out at the next election. Mass Media and always attackingg the government by the media means no democratic government is safe.
Even if you have revolution as in Libya and Egypt you will have problems finding a new popular leader. In the meantime killing and tortueing your opponents might satisfy some but it is just revenge. In Libya Dogtower it still happening with the miiltary in charge,\.

 

[WolfLarsen]

I afraid Socialism is not the answer. We have has socialist government in Australia and Europe but there are still problems. Even in Australia which has no recession the Labor Government will be thrown out at the next election. Mass Media and always attackingg the government by the media means no democratic government is safe.
Even if you have revolution as in Libya and Egypt you will have problems finding a new popular leader. In the meantime killing and tortueing your opponents might satisfy some but it is just revenge. In Libya Dogtower it still happening with the miiltary in charge,\.

It is a common misconception that there is socialism in Europe. I assure you there is no socialism in Europe or Australia. That is more like capitalism with a safety net. As you may notice, the capitalists are attacking the safety net that generations of European workers have fought for.

Capitalism is in world crisis. The capitalists are the ones who run the show, and the capitalists are the ones who caused this crisis. However, the capitalists and their prostitute-politicians expect the working class to pay for the economic crisis that has been caused by capitalism.

Beware of labels. For example, the "Labor" Party of Britain is not a workers party and it is not socialist . It is pro-capitalist.

 

[BigRob]

Maybe there will be a revolution the United States of America. People are sick and tired of so much unemployment, stingy wages, insurance companies bleeding the medical system dry, banks stealing American homes, endless wars, etc. ad nauseam.

Banks are not "stealing American homes" -- if anyone is stealing it is those who borrowed money to buy the house and are not not paying it back. You don't get to borrow money, not pay it back, and expect to keep what you bought with your borrowed money.

We need democracy in the USA!

Are you asserting that there will be a revolution in the USA for "democracy" ?

Did you know that one out of every four persons in jail in the world is in jail in the USA, mostly because of drugs. Why should somebody be thrown in jail, where they might get raped, just because they smoke marijuana? That doesn't sound like democracy to me!

What does any of that have to do with "democracy"?

And now President B.O. just signed into law a bill giving the military the right to indefinitely detain Americans without a trial.

So you get to choose between the Democrats and the Republicans. So what! A recent poll shows that most Americans want all the politicians in Congress of both parties thrown out on the street. These politicians are a bunch of prostitutes of the rich.

Polls always show we want to "throw everyone out" -- however, look into other polls that then ask how your particular Congressman is doing and you will find much higher numbers.

 

[Aus22]

It is a common misconception that there is socialism in Europe. I assure you there is no socialism in Europe or Australia. That is more like capitalism with a safety net. As you may notice, the capitalists are attacking the safety net that generations of European workers have fought for.

Capitalism is in world crisis. The capitalists are the ones who run the show, and the capitalists are the ones who caused this crisis. However, the capitalists and their prostitute-politicians expect the working class to pay for the economic crisis that has been caused by capitalism.

Beware of labels. For example, the "Labor" Party of Britain is not a workers party and it is not socialist . It is pro-capitalist.

You are right. The Labor Party in Australia and Britain or the Socialist parties of Europe are not pure socialist. They have to work in a Capitalist system. But where is a pure Socialist government, Surely very few like North Korea and not very successful.

 

[WolfLarsen]

Polls always show we want to "throw everyone out" -- however, look into other polls that then ask how your particular Congressman is doing and you will find much higher numbers.

Socialism has not happened on the planet yet. However, the planned economies of the Soviet Union and China helped those countries to achieve things they never could've achieved otherwise. A planned economy helped the Soviet Union rise from the Third World and become the second most powerful industrialized nation on the planet. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the return of capitalism to that country resulted in widespread misery for the workers. The success of the planned economy in China can be seen by the fact that China has achieved 10% growth rates for most years since the revolution in 1949. So both the Soviet Union and China have made tremendous gains thanks to a planned economy, in spite of the fact that they were run by wretched Stalinist bureaucracies.

In order to have socialism there must be a workers democracy. To achieve workers democracy you must have workers revolutions in the capitalist countries, and political revolutions by the working class in the countries run by Stalinists.

 

[dogtowner]

Socialism has not happened on the planet yet. However, the planned economies of the Soviet Union and China helped those countries to achieve things they never could've achieved otherwise. A planned economy helped the Soviet Union rise from the Third World and become the second most powerful industrialized nation on the planet. The collapse of the Soviet Union and the return of capitalism to that country resulted in widespread misery for the workers. The success of the planned economy in China can be seen by the fact that China has achieved 10% growth rates for most years since the revolution in 1949. So both the Soviet Union and China have made tremendous gains thanks to a planned economy, in spite of the fact that they were run by wretched Stalinist bureaucracies.

In order to have socialism there must be a workers democracy. To achieve workers democracy you must have workers revolutions in the capitalist countries, and political revolutions by the working class in the countries run by Stalinists.

Why did we have to start selling them wheat if things were so grand ?

 

[WolfLarsen]

I did not say that things in the Soviet Union were "so grand." The Soviet Union had a rotten Stalinist bureaucracy. However, as I said before and I'll say it again: a planned economy in the Soviet Union helped that country rise from a Third World status to becoming the second most powerful industrialized country in the world. When the countries of the ex-Soviet Union became capitalist what happened? Most of those countries are economic basket cases today! And the standards of living of the working people has plummeted!

And if things in the capitalist United States are "so grand"then how come there's so much unemployment, how come the infrastructure is falling apart, how come one out of four persons in jail in the world is in jail in the USA, how come the bourgeosie always need bailouts, how come so many people can't afford their medical care?

 

[dogtowner]

I did not say that things in the Soviet Union were "so grand." The Soviet Union had a rotten Stalinist bureaucracy. However, as I said before and I'll say it again: a planned economy in the Soviet Union helped that country rise from a Third World status to becoming the second most powerful industrialized country in the world. When the countries of the ex-Soviet Union became capitalist what happened? Most of those countries are economic basket cases today! And the standards of living of the working people has plummeted!

And if things in the capitalist United States are "so grand"then how come there's so much unemployment, how come the infrastructure is falling apart, how come one out of four persons in jail in the world is in jail in the USA, how come the bourgeosie always need bailouts, how come so many people can't afford their medical care?

It was a great nation in 1919. If it became 3rd world it was due to the government's planned economy.
You really need to read up on Russia, I'm afraid you are operating under some illusions.

But never mind that, I've got your worker's party right here.

 

[Aus22]

It was a great nation in 1919. If it became 3rd world it was due to the government's planned economy.
You really need to read up on Russia, I'm afraid you are operating under some illusions.

But never mind that, I've got your worker's party right here.

Dogtower, I am not sure what you mean by saying Russia was a great nation in 1919. I suspect you meant before the Revolution in 1917. Russia become a great nation during the War and early 1950s, This was partly caused by the planned economy. They won the WW2 , put the first man in space and rival the USA in technical advancement in the 1950s. They moved to a more capitalist economy since,
China is now the NO 1 Economic Power. It has a mixture of a planned economy and capitalism. We in Australia sell wheat to China as we used to do to Europe. They pay good money, also for our minerals. Chinese are our no 1 tourist and high in education. Communist is not all bad nor is Capitalism. A combination of a planned economy with Capitalism seems to work best.