Obama Vs Fox News

[chestnut]

A very interesting article.

I think Obama needs to hire this person to be on his team. She seems to be a bit smarter than Axelrod or Emanuel.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/16/ellen-ratner-obama-white-house-fox-news/

Ellen Ratner
- FOXNews.com
- October 16, 2009
White House vs. Fox News? Know This, What You Resist Persists

The White House hasn't asked for my advice in its feud with Fox News but let me give it here.


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Any one who has ever spent any extended amount of time with children knows that if you put something in front of them and tell them not to do it, the "not to do thing" becomes enticing. So, the best thing to do is not to give credence to something and just ignore it.
That is exactly what the White House has not done in their battle with Fox News Channel. It has raised the level of rancor higher than it should be.


The White House hasn't asked my advice but I will give it here:

Ignore your issues with Fox News Channel unless something that's being reported on a news segment is wrong. Ignore pretty much everything that is being said on the opinion side as it is just opinion. The White House does not make a habit of addressing the various protests in front of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue so why should it spend valuable time and energy addressing opinion shows? -- By addressing your beefs with talk radio and talk television shows that you think are slanted against you, you just give them more and more legitimacy.

I have been working for Fox News as a confirmed liberal contributor for twelve years.
I know from the inside of the Fox News Channel operation that they are clear about the dividing line between reporting and opinion. They don't like to mix the work of reporters and the show hosts nor should they. I sit at the White House with Fox's White House reporters and they have asked the same questions as other reporters -- both during the Bush administration and the Obama administration.

As a liberal commentator on Fox News Channel I have never been told what to say and have only been asked to restrain myself once in twelve years. And when was that? -- It was on the day that Michael Jackson died and the producer asked me to keep my negative views to myself till some time had passed. That's a concern I can respect. They welcome my thoughts and views and they would welcome President Obama's views as well.

The president needs to reach out to all Americans -- even the ones who completely disagree with him. His communication staff should suggest he do interviews with Fox News Channel and let his message be heard directly by Americans who did not vote for him or don't like his polices. The White House should also know their numbers. One study done by an independent media group found that almost a third of Fox's viewers were Democrats and independents.

The Obama communications strategy needs to let the criticism of the president and the administration roll off their back. It's a mistake to spend valuable communications capital on upping the ante and continuing the fight. What you resist persists.

Ellen Ratner is Washington bureau chief of Talk Radio News Service and a Fox News contributor.

 

[top gun]

Come on the whole premise "Obama Vs Fox News" is wrong.

Barack Obama is The President of the United States of America... and a damn good one.

FIXED (FOX) News (when it comes to politics) is a political action committee for the Republicants.

What's the big deal? The administration is simply highlighting a truth so that Independents don't get sucked into believing that there's anything nonpartisan about FIXED (FOX) NEWS. That seems very fair to me. FIXED (FOX) NEWS can say anything they want... no one's stopping them.

All that's happening is they are being recognized for what they are. Maybe they're ashamed of it when it gets pointed out... I don't know... but as honest Abe said... that's kinda their problem.

What kills a skunk is the publicity it gives itself.
Abraham Lincoln

 

[chestnut]

Come on the whole premise "Obama Vs Fox News" is wrong.

Barack Obama is The President of the United States of America... and a damn good one.

FIXED (FOX) News (when it comes to politics) is a political action committee for the Republicants.

What's the big deal? The administration is simply highlighting a truth so that Independents don't get sucked into believing that there's anything nonpartisan about FIXED (FOX) NEWS. That seems very fair to me. FIXED (FOX) NEWS can say anything they want... no one's stopping them.

All that's happening is they are being recognized for what they are. Maybe they're ashamed of it when it gets pointed out... I don't know... but as honest Abe said... that's kinda their problem.

What kills a skunk is the publicity it gives itself.
Abraham Lincoln

If that's the case, why don't they go after MSNBC. You have to admit they are way more biased and one sided than fox is.

They don't even report the News on weekend.

I hope they keep it up, and drive more people to watch.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It looks like Obama's new agenda is to send his soldiers and take on the media that does not agree with him.

The media??????

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[always]

So I'm wrong. There's nothing more pressing going on right now but to attack Fox news. Pretty much, the only news network that asks the tough questions.

You tell me where I'm ignorant in assuming that.

His administration needs to focus.

I think it's actually good for Fox because it's going to bring them viewers, but it is still, not a worthwhile cause for the administration. They look "small" by doing this.

Obama indeed is bothered by FOX NEWS, the ONLY National NEWS Media that OPENLY reports the FACTS about our Ruthless President.
I think back to another National Figure who insisted on CONTROL. He wanted CONTROL over News, Industry , Banking , Farming, ALL People and all their life decisons and experiences. At first he had his GOONS break into their homes, destroying their shops , their source of revenue for living expenses. Not satisfied with that he painted signs on their doors calling them JEWS and making them targets for his Brownshirts.Still not satisfied, he put them on trains and sent them to crowded Concentration camps where millions died in filth . Still not satisfied he built Gas Chambers , so as to destroy them faster.
In the end over SIX MILLION of just the JEWISH race were murdered. Millions of other races died too before the World put him out of business. No , there was NO FOX NEWS in Germany or anywhere else in those Dark Days. Even America ignored the EVIL for YEARS. Just think how much misery , how many lives would have been saved if GERMANY then had a FOX NEWS!! Well, Today , AMERICA is BLEST with a FOX NEWS and CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO
that SCREAMS out the TRUTH of TODAY . Still ,many sleep, perhaps due to ignorance but sadly some agree with what is happening. Today our Federal Government holds SECRET MEETINGS with ONLY their State Approved News Media allowed.WHY?, Are they plotting evil so terribly wrong ,so harmful , they need their actions to be kept secret until after the fact? Is this really our FOURTH ESTATE that is PROTECTED by our CONSTITUTION? THINK!

 

[chestnut]

Obama cannot have a centralized govt without controlling the media. All the media.

He needs the news papers (hey isn't he for bailing thme out?)
Hollywood - Most of hollywood voted for him and rally around him
News Stations - He's got them all but Fox
Internet - Net neutrality is coming. (i hope it doesn't)
Arts - NEA is creating propoganda for him
Education - mmm mmm mmm

Did I leave anything out?

So as you can see, the plan is simple. Once the vehicles are in place to spread the message the administration wants them to, how will there be anyone to rebel against the continual takeover of the nations industries?

There won't be.

This nation was never designed to be controlled from Washington DC. Our founding fathers understood that the individuals in their communities, counties, cities, states, knew how to take care of their problems best.

What powers the states have not given to the Central Govt is reserved for the states.

I am not an Obama hater. I am just a person that beleives our country is heading in the wrong direction.

If you look at everything that Obama has done, as well as, all of his self avowed socialist/marxists appoitments, how do people not understand what Obama goals are?

 

[ASPCA4EVER]

Obama cannot have a centralized govt without controlling the media. All the media.

He needs the news papers (hey isn't he for bailing thme out?)
Hollywood - Most of hollywood voted for him and rally around him
News Stations - He's got them all but Fox
Internet - Net neutrality is coming. (i hope it doesn't)
Arts - NEA is creating propoganda for him
Education - mmm mmm mmm

Did I leave anything out?

So as you can see, the plan is simple. Once the vehicles are in place to spread the message the administration wants them to, how will there be anyone to rebel against the continual takeover of the nations industries?

There won't be.

This nation was never designed to be controlled from Washington DC. Our founding fathers understood that the individuals in their communities, counties, cities, states, knew how to take care of their problems best.

What powers the states have not given to the Central Govt is reserved for the states.

I am not an Obama hater. I am just a person that beleives our country is heading in the wrong direction.

If you look at everything that Obama has done, as well as, all of his self avowed socialist/marxists appoitments, how do people not understand what Obama goals are?

Ok, then who would you have appointed into what positions and what exactly would you be doing differently to solve this historic making catastrophic events any different then the many knowledgeable advisers and public people who have been telling our newly elected officials what to TRY???

Come on, certainly you could/can/should provide some enlightened insightful advise for changing what you deem as so WRONG! I'm willing to listen to something/anything besides the constant vitriol/heinous Bu!!Sh!t posts that just keep attacking our current elected officials trying to undo 8 years of G.W.B. ignoring the avalanche rolling down the mountain at us!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It looks like Obama's new agenda is to send his soldiers and take on the media that does not agree with him.

That's how it worked in Bizarro Bushworld, huh??

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[chestnut]

First I would not have appointed people who continually say they are gainst capitalism.

One of our problems is the amount of money coming into the govt is declining as the un-employment continues to grow. That's because people who do not work, pay less tax.

Why hasn't Obama come out in favor of the Fair Tax. That is a solution that would boost revenue to the govt, because everyone that spends, pays their share of the tax.
By doing away with the current burdensome tax system, it would create an environment that would draw businesses here.

He then needs to come out against Cap and Tax. I'm sure many companies that will be affected by this are the ones who are laying off and downsizing in anticipation of this enormous tax they will have to pay.

But as long as he has people in the white house that are anti-capitalist and for big governemnt, those solutions will never come.

Nancy Pelosi said she beleives in a VAT tax. That's going to help who? Prices will go up for everything we buy, actually, hurting the local govts tax revenues.

I think Obama is listening to much to the Unions. That is because he gets so much money from them. A lot of the health care legislationis going to benefit them with Union Jobs, and 10bil to fund their "broke" retirement health plans.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Why hasn't Obama come out in favor of the Fair Tax.

Gee....maybe you could explain The Fair Tax to everyone, here.


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[chestnut]

I'm not qualified to go into details of the Fair Tax. I have read the book and understand the principles.
It makes more sense than our current tax system.

Have you researched it any, or are you content with our current tax system?

 

[chestnut]

Finally - other news organizations stand up for the 1st ammendment.

If the govt can silence fox, that would be a precedent for the other news organizations.

I'm glad they understand this and are taking a stand.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Gee....maybe you could explain The Fair Tax to everyone, here.


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I'm not qualified to go into details of the Fair Tax.

Obviously....yet, you continue to embarrass yourself.

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[Mr. Shaman]

Finally - other news organizations stand up for the 1st ammendment.

I'm glad they understand this and are taking a stand.

No......

Lloyd Green - FOXNews.com - October 23, 2009

....it's still FAUX Noise.

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[chestnut]

Again. the personal attacks.

I'll ask again. Have you tried to read about the fair tax or are you content with our current tax system? Do you like April 15th?

We spend so much money just preparing to pay our taxes. That could go back into the economy.

What if corporations could make decisions that were good for business and not based on thei tax code implications.

Are you getting any of this? Is ti that hard to understand?

We get rid of the IRS all together. We pay a national sales tax. So only when we purchase do we pay taxes.

The taxes on staples and necessities will be pre-bated to the American people, so those who make less, will not be affected.

But the rich will pay more because if they buy a yacht, they pay the tax.
The crooks will pay because when the purchse anything, they pay the tax.

Without the corp taxes businesses would clamor to come to the U.S. to run their business.