No Whining From The Right Wing?

[Openmind]

sorry, on integrity.

Well, even with his nasty little sexual habits (not quite as nasty as "golden showers" with Russian prostitute, or "grabbing pussies" of unwilling females), even Clinton had more integrity than Trump! At least, he has never been accused of stiffing his contractors or found guilty of fraudulent business practices!

And Obama's integrity has never been questioned. . .except in extreme Right propaganda.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

Not as much as Trumps going to do..

Does it matter? Won't benefit the people.

 

[grumpy]

Well, even with his nasty little sexual habits (not quite as nasty as "golden showers" with Russian prostitute, or "grabbing pussies" of unwilling females), even Clinton had more integrity than Trump! At least, he has never been accused of stiffing his contractors or found guilty of fraudulent business practices!

And Obama's integrity has never been questioned. . .except in extreme Right propaganda.

OK..

 

[grumpy]

Does it matter? Won't benefit the people.

IMO, until they come up with a cheaper better form of energy, It most certainly will help the people..

 

[grumpy]

Well, even with his nasty little sexual habits (not quite as nasty as "golden showers" with Russian prostitute, or "grabbing pussies" of unwilling females), even Clinton had more integrity than Trump! At least, he has never been accused of stiffing his contractors or found guilty of fraudulent business practices!

And Obama's integrity has never been questioned. . .except in extreme Right propaganda.

There were real scandals around Obama. Just because the media ignores them doesn’t make them nonexistent, just as the media’s obsession with something doesn’t make it a scandal. Solyndra, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the NLRB suing Boeing, and Lisa Jackson’s EPA emails, the IRS scandals are all serious scandals involving government corruption at the highest levels. At the minimum they show Obama to be ignorant or indifferent to what’s going on in his own administration. Republicans trying to get to the truth of these issues encounter Democrats allowing winning at all costs to supersede dead bodies.
Obama had a habit of bullying people who disagree with him in a way his predecessor never did.Obama is not the most corrupt President in even recent American history, and more evidence would be needed to accuse him of serious corruption at all. The real poster-boy for corruption would be Clinton, who was morally bankrupt on every level. Clintonites do not dispute this. They just find it irrelevant. Yet Obama is nowhere near as honest as either Bush.
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/politic...your-media-glasses-19758/#ipMsGPue3dJC7URI.99

 

[Old_Trapper70]

IMO, until they come up with a cheaper better form of energy, It most certainly will help the people..

They have, and they are using it. It is called natural gas. Ever hear of it? Then there is wind, and solar, both of which are getting cheaper as technology advances. And you don't have to destroy the environment to use it.

 

[Old_Trapper70]

There were real scandals around Obama. Just because the media ignores them doesn’t make them nonexistent, just as the media’s obsession with something doesn’t make it a scandal. Solyndra, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the NLRB suing Boeing, and Lisa Jackson’s EPA emails, the IRS scandals are all serious scandals involving government corruption at the highest levels. At the minimum they show Obama to be ignorant or indifferent to what’s going on in his own administration. Republicans trying to get to the truth of these issues encounter Democrats allowing winning at all costs to supersede dead bodies.
Obama had a habit of bullying people who disagree with him in a way his predecessor never did.Obama is not the most corrupt President in even recent American history, and more evidence would be needed to accuse him of serious corruption at all. The real poster-boy for corruption would be Clinton, who was morally bankrupt on every level. Clintonites do not dispute this. They just find it irrelevant. Yet Obama is nowhere near as honest as either Bush.
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/politic...your-media-glasses-19758/#ipMsGPue3dJC7URI.99

Problem with your "scandals" is that they did not involve Obama, just because he was President at the time. Fast and Furious was an extension of Opreration Wide Receiver under Bush. Solyndra failed because of China illegally dumping solar goods on the US market which led to Obama instituting a higher tariff on Chinese goods. Benghazi is a farce promoted by the right wing since both Obama, and Panetta, ordered rescue attempts within hours of the event becoming known. And the list goes on.

Keep trying Grumpy. Your god Trump needs all the help he can get.

 

[Openmind]

IMO, until they come up with a cheaper better form of energy, It most certainly will help the people..

No, dear! It only gives the people false hope, puts a lot of money in the pocket of big coal business, and slows the life saving move to the new energy technology! The coal miners will not get more jobs, but will try to keep their youths to move to the clean energy, to learn the new jobs, in the hope that their outdated (and very dangerous) lifestyle will be saved.

What you are saying is comparable to saying that, until a cure is found for cancer, giving cancer patients an aspirine a day will help them!

 

[Openmind]

There were real scandals around Obama. Just because the media ignores them doesn’t make them nonexistent, just as the media’s obsession with something doesn’t make it a scandal. Solyndra, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the NLRB suing Boeing, and Lisa Jackson’s EPA emails, the IRS scandals are all serious scandals involving government corruption at the highest levels. At the minimum they show Obama to be ignorant or indifferent to what’s going on in his own administration. Republicans trying to get to the truth of these issues encounter Democrats allowing winning at all costs to supersede dead bodies.
Obama had a habit of bullying people who disagree with him in a way his predecessor never did.Obama is not the most corrupt President in even recent American history, and more evidence would be needed to accuse him of serious corruption at all. The real poster-boy for corruption would be Clinton, who was morally bankrupt on every level. Clintonites do not dispute this. They just find it irrelevant. Yet Obama is nowhere near as honest as either Bush.
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/politic...your-media-glasses-19758/#ipMsGPue3dJC7URI.99

You are so ridiculous with your "Benghazi" cry!
How many embassies were attacked under other presidents. . .and NEVER even investigated! This one was investigated . . .how many times is it? 8 times?

And there was NEVER a conviction!

Get over it!

And. . .for President Obama being more corrupt or less honest than Bush!
Remind me when Obama took any action that took us into an illegal war, killed thousands of our soldiers, maimed many more thousands, killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and led to the creation of extremists like ISIS, AND left us (because it was an UNPAID war. . .done on "credit") with a huge deficit. . .that President Obama is being blamed for by the hypocrite Right!

Sick!

 

[Old_Trapper70]

AND left us (because it was an UNPAID war. . .done on "credit") with a huge deficit. . .that President Obama is being blamed for by the hypocrite Right!

Sick!

And an estimated 6 trillion more dollars to care for the disabled veterans that they will blame on Obama.

 

[Openmind]

And an estimated 6 trillion more dollars to care for the disabled veterans that they will blame on Obama.

Yep! Hypocrisy or stupidity! I'm not sure which!

 

[grumpy]

They have, and they are using it. It is called natural gas. Ever hear of it? Then there is wind, and solar, both of which are getting cheaper as technology advances. And you don't have to destroy the environment to use it.

Nope never heard of it, he is cutting regulations on natural gas too..the others you mentioned are not there yet..Nuclear is another great option..

 

[grumpy]

You are so ridiculous with your "Benghazi" cry!
How many embassies were attacked under other presidents. . .and NEVER even investigated! This one was investigated . . .how many times is it? 8 times?

I know of how many times, it's what happened before and during the attack.. I choose to believe the men on the ground, then the narrative it was a video..

And. . .for President Obama being more corrupt or less honest than Bush!
Remind me when Obama took any action that took us into an illegal war, killed thousands of our soldiers, maimed many more thousands, killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and led to the creation of extremists like ISIS, AND left us (because it was an UNPAID war. . .done on "credit") with a huge deficit. . .that President Obama is being blamed for by the hypocrite Right!

I never said he was more corrupt, but he was IMO, and as far as honesty goes and integrity both Bush Presidents were ...

 

[grumpy]

No, dear! It only gives the people false hope, puts a lot of money in the pocket of big coal business, and slows the life saving move to the new energy technology! The coal miners will not get more jobs, but will try to keep their youths to move to the clean energy, to learn the new jobs, in the hope that their outdated (and very dangerous) lifestyle will be saved.

What you are saying is comparable to saying that, until a cure is found for cancer, giving cancer patients an aspirine a day will help them!

Talk about perception.. Coal is cheap energy for everyone, it doesn't just help the miners, it provides cheaper energy for the poor also..And no it's more like until we find something better, Natural gas is better, and Trump is cleaning out some of the regulation on it as well..

 

[Openmind]

Talk about perception.. Coal is cheap energy for everyone, it doesn't just help the miners, it provides cheaper energy for the poor also..And no it's more like until we find something better, Natural gas is better, and Trump is cleaning out some of the regulation on it as well..

Ridiculous! Coal is dead. . .and most of the coal is used for electricity, no longer to heat homes! And we already have cheaper, better alternatives for everyone. . .
You seem to be a little myopic in your view of "pricing" of coal! Coal is not cheap when it had cost us so much in health, in environmental disasters, in death!

Fraking is not much better and is ALSO dangerous! The only people who benefit from both coal and fraking are the big business, who do not care how many people die from working in the mines, and do not care about poisoned water, and do not care about the environment (because they live far away from the sites!!!). And, with Trump removing so many protective regulations, they will care even less about their workers and the environment!

Ever wonder why there was so much more cancer today?

By the way, meat was also cheaper in the beginning of the 20th century, when meat workers worked in terrible conditions, on meat that was often not safe to eat! Thank God for whistle blower who wrote "the Jungle," and for those activists who showed the road to better regulations!