My thought for the day:

[penderyn]

yeah but think of the employement prospects! Bubba pops into his local for an AR-15 with buttstock or whatever the bloody things are called and then you have legions of health professionals decending on him to test if he's the lucky sibling with use of the family braincell!
Meh, its all window dressing anyway. They witter on about testing and background checks and all the other paraphenalia that they think is going to stop wankers with weapons but it ain't, it'll keep happening and they'll keep asking was he mad, muslim or mexican?
I guess as others have said; its up to the kids to try and add some sense to the situation. Good luck to them I say! I have great faith in the younger generation but until they get a pretty serious rise in their pocket money the NRA will keep filling up the pockets of the those in power and...well...money talks!

The trouble is that when people are shit-scared they think weapons will answer, especially if they've nothing else to brood about than their imagined terrors. Think of all those probably-not-very-bright teenagers without jobs and with no youth-clubs to go to, hanging about the London street-corners with nothing to do except bully one another: does wonders for the steel industry! I console myself with the fact that, huge though the numbers of shit-scared Americans may be, there are lots and lots of sensible and decent ones to calm them down. I do hope they avoid another Civil War, whatever.

 

[Texas_tea]

yeah but think of the employement prospects! Bubba pops into his local for an AR-15 with buttstock or whatever the bloody things are called and then you have legions of health professionals decending on him to test if he's the lucky sibling with use of the family braincell!
Meh, its all window dressing anyway. They witter on about testing and background checks and all the other paraphenalia that they think is going to stop wankers with weapons but it ain't, it'll keep happening and they'll keep asking was he mad, muslim or mexican?
I guess as others have said; its up to the kids to try and add some sense to the situation. Good luck to them I say! I have great faith in the younger generation but until they get a pretty serious rise in their pocket money the NRA will keep filling up the pockets of the those in power and...well...money talks!

Perhaps you could post exactly how much the NRA has filled the pockets of those in power .....

Your comment is a classic example of how ignorance plagues the masses.

 

[The Scotsman]

Perhaps you could post exactly how much the NRA has filled the pockets of those in power .....

a wee bit I would imagine? I guess you could google it for yourself but if you need any help I would be happy to assist
I did a quick one and came up with this..

Record election spending
The nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics estimated that during the 2016 election, the NRA and its affiliates spent a record $54m to secure Republican control of the White House and Congress, including at least $30.3m to help elect Donald Trump.

FYI link is as follows..
Guardian

Your comment is a classic example of how ignorance plagues the masses.

ah well...never mind, each to his own eh!

 

[Texas_tea]

a wee bit I would imagine? I guess you could google it for yourself but if you need any help I would be happy to assist
I did a quick one and came up with this..

FYI link is as follows..
Guardian


ah well...never mind, each to his own eh!

From your link:

"The NRA accounts for just a fraction of the contributions lawmakers receive, and the group doesn’t crack the top 50 in terms of spending to the lobby the federal government."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...cus-shifts-to-nra-gun-lobby-cash-to-lawmakers

Not interested in discussing propaganda or what you think the propaganda means.

That is almost always a waste of time.

 

[The Scotsman]

Not interested in discussing propaganda or what you think the propaganda means.

What ho old bean I'm not sure I understand your comment. Do you think the figures given by Center for Responsive Politics are wrong then? Have you a better figure you could provide them with?

 

[Texas_tea]

What ho old bean I'm not sure I understand your comment. Do you think the figures given by Center for Responsive Politics are wrong then? Have you a better figure you could provide them with?

I tell you what ....

You add up all the money the NRA has given lawmakers including the NRA's "affiliates" .... whatever the hell that means ... I guess any other group that supports the 2nd Amendment and donates to a candidate or a lawmaker gets lumped in with the NRA ....

Add all that money up and then compare that to the contributions of big labor.

Big labor donates more money to lawmakers every year than the NRA has in the last 20 years.

But, who cares?

What's the problem?

The NRA is not responsible for the Parkland School Shooting.

B. Hussein and Eric Holder are directly responsible for those children's death.

 

[The Scotsman]

But, who cares?

indeed... who cares. Well as I intimated it seems that certain grubby little school oiks in fact do. Which incedentally was the point I was making.
As you quite correctly state the NRA was not responsible for undertaking the shooting of numerous grubby little school oiks, however, they do lobby lawmakers for the perpetuation of the industry and the ample supply of weapons to those that would. So, given the considerable resources that the NRA has at their finger tips to facilitate the greasing of lawmaker's pockets I thought a payrise for said school oiks may benefit their desire not to become chalk outlines.
So back to where we started...

 

[The Scotsman]

Add all that money up and then compare that to the contributions of big labor.

what is "big labor" and do they lobby for guns and buttstocks?

 

[Texas_tea]

indeed... who cares. Well as I intimated it seems that certain grubby little school oiks in fact do. Which incedentally was the point I was making.
As you quite correctly state the NRA was not responsible for undertaking the shooting of numerous grubby little school oiks, however, they do lobby lawmakers for the perpetuation of the industry and the ample supply of weapons to those that would. So, given the considerable resources that the NRA has at their finger tips to facilitate the greasing of lawmaker's pockets I thought a payrise for said school oiks may benefit their desire not to become chalk outlines.
So back to where we started...

You obviously do not fully understand how politics work in this Country.

The 2nd Amendment will never be repealed ... regardless of who or how much money is given in support of or against it.

You are parroting propaganda .....

 

[Texas_tea]

what is "big labor" and do they lobby for guns and buttstocks?

The Unions are referred to as big labor in this Country and they donate more money every year, almost 100% to leftist politicians, than the NRA has donated in the last 20 years combined.

The NRA is nothing more than a whipping boy for the marxist in this Country.

 

[The Scotsman]

You are parroting propaganda .....

ah....is that perhaps a euphemism for someone with a contray point of view...

The 2nd Amendment will never be repealed

I don't doubt that at all, however, you could in fact control what weapons and accessories are permitted and what are not. I think that is the material point.

You obviously do not fully understand how politics work in this Country.

I think you could apply that to a few of your countrymen too..

 

[The Scotsman]

The Unions are referred to as big labor in this Country and they donate more money every year, almost 100% to leftist politicians, than the NRA has donated in the last 20 years combined.

Well I'm sure they have and I'm sure that there are a lot of chaps lining up to have their whack of it....however, I'm speculating that it has little to do with the NRA's brief?

 

[PLC1]

They can't buy guns and they are on the radar of the family and PD. Yes the cops have demonstrated an inability to keep tabs but they can be pressured with public support.

If there were universal background checks for all sales of weapons, then they wouldn't be able to buy a gun.
and the last school shooter was"known to police." What good did that do?

 

[Texas_tea]

ah....is that perhaps a euphemism for someone with a contray point of view...

Not exactly.

Propaganda is void of facts ....

I don't doubt that at all, however, you could in fact control what weapons and accessories are permitted and what are not. I think that is the material point.

Weapons and accessories are controlled in this Country.

I think you could apply that to a few of your countrymen too..

That would be fact.

 

[Texas_tea]

Well I'm sure they have and I'm sure that there are a lot of chaps lining up to have their whack of it....however, I'm speculating that it has little to do with the NRA's brief?

It serves as accurate comparison of money and influence over lawmakers.