Legalize It!!!!!!!

[Mr. Shaman]

South Park does Medical Marijuana - TONITE!!!

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[Mr. Shaman]

"The city of Philadelphia saved an estimated $2 million last year by ceasing criminal prosecutions for minor marijuana offenses, according to comments made last week by District Attorney Seth Williams to the Philadelphia Daily News.

In April 2010, Williams publicly announced a citywide policy change whereby law enforcement officials would issue a summons rather than arrest and criminally prosecute minor marijuana offenders. Philadelphia NORML had actively lobbied for the policy change after finding that the city punished minor marijuana violations more severely than many neighboring counties. A February 2010 Philly NORML report also found significant racial disparities in the city’s marijuana prosecutions – noting that African American males comprised an estimated 83 percent of all persons in Philadelphia arrested for minor marijuana possession offenses.

The new enforcement policy took effect in June 2010."​

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"Democratic Gov. Dan Malloy signed legislation into law on Thursday, June 30 ‘decriminalizing’ the possession of small, personal use amounts of marijuana by adults. The new law, Senate Bill 1014, took effect on Friday, July 1."

Connecticut: Measure Is Now Law​

 

[Popeye]

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That great. However, unfortunately, Obama has betrayed us..

Obama cracks down on medical marijuana

 

[Phoenix68]

Legislation To Legalize Marijuana At The Federal Level
April 1, 2022​

 

[Phoenix68]

I'm not sure what the moral ground is against marijuana.

Pragmatically, my case against it has to do with the long-term effects I've seen on people I've known. People who lost their jobs, their wives, their children, their entire lives, all because they were stuck on weed.

Most of the people I've met, who were heavily hitting the flower power, were often the most useless pathetic people. Some have told me it's great because people high on pot, are funny and humorous. Not from what I've seen. That kind of funny, is no more entertaining than kindergartners exchanging potty jokes, or tripping a drunk guy causing him to fall, or that guy in California who made homeless bums fight over $10 bucks.

It's not funny, it's sick and pathetic. And the wife who longs for a her husband to come out of his drug induced stupor, and lead her family, or the child who can't figure out why daddy never plays with them, neither finds it very amusing either.

This is what I'm against. Having met enough people in loveless marriages, because one or both, was hooked on some substance, I can say I don't want to meet anymore. And if legalizing it will increase those numbers, then I'm against it.

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Marijuana U.S.A.
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[Phoenix68]

I'm not sure what the moral ground is against marijuana.

Pragmatically, my case against it has to do with the long-term effects I've seen on people I've known. People who lost their jobs, their wives, their children, their entire lives, all because they were stuck on weed.

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[Phoenix68]

I think the federal government should just put buckets of drugs available throughout all communities who want them. 55-gal barrels full of weed, coke, meth, whatever. Put one on every street corner. Give the people all the drugs they want. Damn sight cheaper than fighting the drug wars, that's for sure. It's all some people live for anyway--so if it's free they won't have to whore or steal or swindle to get their next fix.

They tried that in the Netherlands. Didn't work so good there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_Netherlands

You can also do a search on drug laws. Damn near destroyed Amsterdam.

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Marijuana U.S.A.​

 

[Phoenix68]

As a retired DEA agent I hve 2 opinions:
1. All drugs should be legalized & taxed for competent adults. (Prohibition never has & never will work)
2. Do not confuse an argument for legalization as an argument for use.

Legalization has many benefits for society..... Use has few benefits, other than it's recreational value which is not a problem...especially compared to alcohol.

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August 27, 2010

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LEAP​

 

[Phoenix68]

I've known people who have grown it and applied deadly pesticides to keep it looking nice "for street value" and sold it to unsuspecting ailing patients.

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Pragmatically, my case against it has to do with the long-term effects I've seen on people I've known. People who lost their jobs, their wives, their children, their entire lives, all because they were stuck on weed.

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It won't be legalized because it's too hard to control...it's easy to grow in ones own garden so you won't be seeing tax revenues on it.

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The stories "conservatives" used to tell each-other!!!
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[Phoenix68]

In 2001, roughly 21,000 students in America crashed their cars ... caused by driving under the influence of pot.

Destruction, injury and death, all caused by pot users, and these are just America's students, let alone everyone else!

Destruction, injury and death that would not have happened had they not been drugged on pot.

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Here are some interesting stats.. a comparison chart showing the number of deaths from selected substances in a typical year.* Not sure how old the figures are but the point about pot is made.

Tobacco- 340,000 to 425,000

Alcohol (excluding crime/accidents)-150,000 +

Legal Drug Overdose (prescription)-14,000 to 27,000

Illegal Drug Overdose-3,800-5,200

Aspirin-180 to 1000+

Marijuana-0

* Based on US Surgeon General and other statistical sources.
http://www.fcda.org/tenthings.html

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Marijuana, 0? What have they been smoking?

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[the annoying thing]

Your a real ***** you know that trump supports it being legal .

 

[Phoenix68]

Erroneous. Immaterial

Once again, Top Gun, your projections are meaningless.
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Erroneous. Immaterial.
Still your projections keep on coming.
That you would cite Web MD as "not having a clue" and devilize them as suffering from "Reefer Madness" is simply more evidence that your credibility in the matter is absolutely zero.
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Oh, there's no doubt about that.
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Oh, that's obvious from the lingering drugged nature of most of your posts.
And maybe the daily was 30 years ago ... maybe ... but you're likely still a user to some degree.
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So you spin, anyway.
Your anecdotes are pretty much worthless in the realm of trusted truth, Top Gun.
And again, a personal anecdote to the contrary is worthless in the face of a valid credible trusted accurate authority such as Web MD.
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Inaccurate. Misleading.
Pot IS psychologically addictive.
There's every evidence that pot is physiologically addictive too.
So says a trusted, credible, accurate valid authority such as Web MD.
If you have a non-druggie-site link to the contrary, then by all means link to it.
Otherwise all you're really saying is "I'm a druggie and gimme my drug!"
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Erroneous. Meaningless. Irrelevant.
Pot not only damages the user, just like alcohol it causes the user to harm others (ex. more than 21,000 students crashed their cars in 2001 in America because they were stoned behind the wheel).
Pot is deadly dangerous, just like alcohol.
People overdose on pot just like they overdose on alcohol, and with brain-damaging and deadly consequences.
Saying that pot isn't anywhere close to as dangerous as alcohol is untrue, and is similar in irrelevancy to saying that the Bothrops Jarararcussu land snake is less venomous than the Hydrophis Belcheri sea snake -- either way, the outcome is equally bad.
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Misleading. Divertive.
Though most certainly children and teenagers should be kept clear of all "recreational" drugs ...
... There is not ONE benefit from use of "recreational" drugs by adults that doesn't come complete with a number of greater adverse side effects.
And, when adults use "recreational" drugs, they set a "drugs are okay" example for their children, sending the WRONG message to their kids.
"Recreational" drugs are bad news for everyone.
Only a druggie would "think" otherwise.
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Make sure your kids and grandkids get that message, Top Gun.But when they ask you if you smoked pot, and you tell them "daily", the damage is done; you've just given them the "okay" to do pot.
Such foolishness.
The right message is "I smoked pot, and I realize now that was WRONG, that it DAMAGED me, and that I would have been MUCH BETTER OFF NOT SMOKING pot -- don't EVER smoke pot, EVER!".
If you can't say that, you're dooming your grandkids to druggie damage ... or worse.
There is no appropriate apologetic for doing "recreational" drugs in any way shape or form.
Only a druggie would "think" otherwise.
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Erroneous. Divertive. Cover-up.
Your pretense to ignorance as to the reality of the intrinsic addictive nature of pot to the human neurosystem is obvious, Top Gun.
Your reasons for denying that reality are simply all about your utilitarian user psychology.
Indeed, your entire post is all about telling untruths so that your drug of choice will still be available to you should you want another fix.
Indeed, once a druggie, always a druggie ... even with recovery.

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Whew! You've gotta be feeling pretty fuckin' stupid, by now.
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Exposing Marijuana Myths
(....With serious footnotes!)
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[Phoenix68]

And yet, smoking pot causes some of the same health problems that smoking tobacco does, correct?

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Nice try.....
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[Phoenix68]

People overdose on pot all the time.

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....And, it's still called falling asleep.
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[Phoenix68]

Since the druggies have taken over this thread with their denial, irrationality, and villification of those who tell the truth of the matter, no more intelligent conversation is possible.

My posts in this thread remain the truth.

They are substantiated, not only by Web Md, but by my experience as a counselor.

No amount of denial on the part of pot users can change the reality I present.

Street-drug pot needs to remain illegal and for very good reasons previously cited.

Hopefully humanity will continue to progress, away from "recreational" drug use-addiction, and toward neuropsychological-emotional health.

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Illinois:
Record $2 Billion In Cannabis Sales; 2024
February 6, 2025
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