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pjmret said:
science presents the best information about the universe, it isn't "ignorant" about it.
if you shut up you wouldn't look like a science *****, but its your choice :)

but in no case does science teach atheism, duh.
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If science does not know for a fact that God did or did not create the universe and does not know for a fact that there was some other cause then science remains ignorant and should not be preaching one speculative theory over another.
 
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Gabriel_Bell said:
Science should do what it always does, which is to declare that there is insufficient proof from the Christian creator deity. Science is about learning the truth, not promoting ancient myths. Science is always open to reexamination of theories. Religion is dogmatic and says that it is true because the Bible says it is true, and God inspired each and every word of it. That is circular logic and as such is defective. Religion rejects all alternative explanations. It used to burn people at the stake who questions the silliness of the official beliefs.

The scientific process is to address a question with as many logical hypotheses as one can and then attempt to disprove each one by one. When there is adequate proof, then the hypothesis becomes a theory. Evolution is a theory. The Biblical version lacks adequate logical proof to become a theory. Au contraire: it is a unproven hypothesis at most.

Is is possible that the universe was created by some entity that then disappeared? Of course! No star in the Universe seems to last forever. Stars are created and then they gradually change. So why would a deity not also change?
Is it possible that the universe was created by some entity that did his thing in this universe and then left to create other universes? That is also possible.
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Science has no proof that the universe originated by some other cause than God so it should not preach that it does.
 
mark francis said:
If science does not know for a fact that God did or did not create the universe and does not know for a fact that there was some other cause then science remains ignorant and should not be preaching one speculative theory over another.
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not knowing everything isn't "being ignorant". what a stupid statement. lol.

of course science will describe theories, they don't "preach" them however, what a stupid statement. lol
 
mark francis said:
Science has no proof that the universe originated by some other cause than God so it should not preach that it does.
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science doesn't address god at all. duh. it doesn't say that god isn't involved, either way.
it is better to keep silent and not prove your ignorance. lol
 
mark francis said:
If science does not know for a fact that God did or did not create the universe and does not know for a fact that there was some other cause then science remains ignorant and should not be preaching one speculative theory over another.
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Science does not preach, ever. What does science say about the existence of a creator god? INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION. That is not preaching. On the other hand, you are preaching constantly. apparently unable to exercise your constitutional right to STFU.
 
mark francis said:
Secular Humanists may pretend their views on the origin of the universe and the origin of life on earth without God are scientific views, but that is not true. Such views are secular speculations, not scientific revelations.
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Prove it. Show your evidence.
 
pjmret said:
not knowing everything isn't "being ignorant". what a stupid statement. lol.

of course science will describe theories, they don't "preach" them however, what a stupid statement. lol
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If science does not give more credence to more reasonable origins theories such as God's creation, then science is failing to properly educate.
 
pjmret said:
science doesn't address god at all. duh. it doesn't say that god isn't involved, either way.
it is better to keep silent and not prove your ignorance. lol
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If science does not want to talk about God, then it should not talk about unscientific secular theories of the origin of the universe.
 
mark francis said:
If science does not give more credence to more reasonable origins theories such as God's creation, then science is failing to properly educate.
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"reasonable"? there is no scientific evidence for god, so no its not "reasonable" for science to talk about god.
you are a science *****. lol
 
Gabriel_Bell said:
Science does not preach, ever. What does science say about the existence of a creator god? INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION. That is not preaching. On the other hand, you are preaching constantly. apparently unable to exercise your constitutional right to STFU.
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What does true science teach? That there is INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION available to properly speculate about causes of origins of the universe and life on earth.
 
mark francis said:
What does true science teach? That there is INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION available to properly speculate about causes of origins of the universe and life on earth.
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no, "true science" teaches about theories and the scientific evidence for those theories. of course scientists can "properly speculate" about it, since there is scientific evidence in hand.
there is no scientific evidence for god.
 
pjmret said:
"reasonable"? there is no scientific evidence for god, so no its not "reasonable" for science to talk about god.
you are a science *****. lol
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There may be no scientific evidence for God but there is clear scientific evidence for declaring that the universe did not create itself without God.
 
pjmret said:
no, "true science" teaches about theories and the scientific evidence for those theories. of course scientists can "properly speculate" about it, since there is scientific evidence in hand.
there is no scientific evidence for god.
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Claiming evidence supports Secular Humanist theories of origins but not creationist theories of origins is a lie. The evidence either supports both or neither.
 
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