Is Communism dying in China?

[Aus22]

I have a hard time believing China will be the most powerful nation militarily and economically in the near future. The corruption and fraud committed by their government far exceeds even the USA. Something like 3/4 of their people live in terrible poverty and many are illiterate.

Secondly why should we be concerned about another nation setting up foreign bases and building a vast navy, when we have done that very thing.

You watch what the damn neocons and libs do if China tries to expand their influence militarily. These bastards will get us into a major war to enrich themselves and gain more power.

Gipper, China is already the most powerful nation in our region. It might still have poverty but it has lifted over 30 Million out of poverty in recent years. Because of its large population it still has some illiterates but at the top it is leading in many educational fields. By sending their newly rich children to foreign universities it is gaining the best in the western world.

It has corruption but no worst than many other advanced nations. Corruption feds on poverty so as poverty is reduce it will less corrupt.

 

[Gipper]

Gipper, I agree that at the Moment Chins poses no threat to Australia. That what the new leadership says. However it is become the great power of the region. Other great powers in the past have eventually try to take over their neighbours in particular if they have valuable minerals. Japan was the last example of this. Being short of minerals China might try to take them from us by conquest not just trade as Pandora suggest. We are a country of 22 Million and could not defend ourselves alone even if we triple our defense spending. We will always rely on big and powerful friends. It used to be Britain but they let us down in WW2. Than it was the USA. Now we are told the USA will not defend us. Perhaps we should draw up an alliance with other Asian countires.

I would think your leaders would know better than to align with the USA for protection from enemies. One would think after how the American government (liberal Democrats) screwed South Vietnam back in the mid 70's, resulting in the deaths of millions, any nation expecting military protection from the USA is not too bright.

 

[Gipper]

Gipper, China is already the most powerful nation in our region. It might still have poverty but it has lifted over 30 Million out of poverty in recent years. Because of its large population it still has some illiterates but at the top it is leading in many educational fields. By sending their newly rich children to foreign universities it is gaining the best in the western world.

It has corruption but no worst than many other advanced nations. Corruption feds on poverty so as poverty is reduce it will less corrupt.

I can't agree. The Chinese communist party is absurdly corrupt and far more so then most western nations. Yes it is growing economically and militarily, but in the end, a government run by commies will never succeed. Bribery is the only way to do business in China. How can that be successful?

 

[Cruella]

It might still have poverty but it has lifted over 30 Million out of poverty in recent years.

Then it only has 1 billion, 3 hundred and 14 million more to go.

 

[Aus22]

How many Americans have been taken out of the poverty in recent years. I suspect the reverse is true there are more poor in America than before. At China is moving in the right direction

 

[dogtowner]

How many Americans have been taken out of the poverty in recent years. I suspect the reverse is true there are more poor in America than before. At China is moving in the right direction

America is clearly heading in the wrong direction as you note. And we decided to pop it into overdrive in that sad direction. But I would be willing to bet that the billion plus on the short end of the stick there would love our version of poor.

 

[Cruella]

America is clearly heading in the wrong direction as you note. And we decided to pop it into overdrive in that sad direction. But I would be willing to bet that the billion plus on the short end of the stick there would love our version of poor.

No kidding.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty

New data compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee shows that, last year, the United States spent over $60,000 to support welfare programs per each household that is in poverty. The calculations are based on data from the Census, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Congressional Research Services.

 

[dogtowner]

No kidding.

Over $60,000 in Welfare Spent Per Household in Poverty

New data compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee shows that, last year, the United States spent over $60,000 to support welfare programs per each household that is in poverty. The calculations are based on data from the Census, the Office of Management and Budget, and the Congressional Research Services.

lefties have been unable to accept this fact but can no more. the worst won't think thats enough in as much as rich people are still rich.

 

[Aus22]

lefties have been unable to accept this fact but can no more. the worst won't think thats enough in as much as rich people are still rich.

Is this $60,000 new spending. Is it driven by the increase in the number of poor. AS dogtower said earlier America is going in the wrong direction. China has many poor but it is going in the right direction.

 

[dogtowner]

Is this $60,000 new spending. Is it driven by the increase in the number of poor. AS dogtower said earlier America is going in the wrong direction. China has many poor but it is going in the right direction.

more like a somewhat gradual uptick of the last decade or wo but spiking the last four years.

as its 60k per household its not a matter of new recipients but rather the safety net becoming a hammock.

 

[Gipper]

How many Americans have been taken out of the poverty in recent years. I suspect the reverse is true there are more poor in America than before. At China is moving in the right direction

Comparing poverty in China to poverty in the USA is nonsensical. The USA does not have poverty like that which exists in China and the rest of the third world.

Many Chinese are subject to living conditions common to people of centuries ago. This does not exist in the USA.

 

[steveox]

Its showing more and more China is turning into a capitolist nation. Just like Russia is now when the Soviet Union died.

 

[Gipper]

Its showing more and more China is turning into a capitolist nation. Just like Russia is now when the Soviet Union died.

Yes and the USA is turning more and more into a communist nation much like the old USSR and China. Rather ironic I would say.

 

[Iolo2]

All these states are, and have (as states) always been, capitalist. The notion that the totally money-dominated US is other than a capitalist dictatorship is ludicrous. Only in America could they have serious arguments about the difference between the bosses and their central committee!

 

[Johnny Tremain]

All these states are, and have (as states) always been, capitalist. The notion that the totally money-dominated US is other than a capitalist dictatorship is ludicrous. Only in America could they have serious arguments about the difference between the bosses and their central committee!

We need the European joys of socialism--it has worked so well there--and, of course, in North Korea--are you in this choir?