Iran warnes US to not return carrier to Persian Gulf

[Alias]

So. . .where is the "DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE US?"

And.. .right now, Israel is the bully. . . just as much as Iran!
Most people just have a problem realizing that because Israel has enjoyed our complete support for so long!

But they have acted as bullies toward the Palestinians for ever. . .and they have been as much of a threat to Iran, as Iran has been to Israel!

You've swallowed the propaganda. The Palestinian people are a tool, nothing more. There is no such thing. Here is a little history lesson for you.

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/there-is-no-such-thing-as-palestinian-people/

 

[Openmind]

You've swallowed the propaganda. The Palestinian people are a tool, nothing more. There is no such thing. Here is a little history lesson for you.

http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/there-is-no-such-thing-as-palestinian-people/

Sure dear, and the holocaust was a lie, right?
In the mean time those "tools" are dying.

And, luckily, there are Jewish people who do not agree that Palestinians are just a disposable "tool," and that they have the right to live in their land.

Continue to believe whatever you want! I don't care!

 

[Aus22]

it was iran we were discussing and just this week the Auatollah reiterated it.

I should have said in the last post. There is no need for USA to go to war with Iran because one person an Autollah who is not the government, made a threat.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

One thing for sure, you are NEVER consistent with your arguments. You said America has never had a left wing president, just varying degrees of right wingedness

Now you claim the US is one of the most right nations on earth. See how you changed your statement after beiconfronted?

So, is Obama a right wing president? And were LBJ or FDR or Wilson right wingers too? They are just varying degrees of



Too FUNNY!!!!!

Gipper, there is nothing inconsistent in what I wrote

You are just displaying your ignorance

Again

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

In fact Gipper you embody everything that is wrong with the US

Religious, right wing ignorami who have been suckered into demonising any efforts to increase social justice as socialism

It shows you have no idea what socialism is

It shows that you oppose the teachings of Jesus Christ who you claim to follow which makes you a hypocrite

It shows that you are sufficiently gullible to be suckered by the rich into voting against your own self interest

It shows you know nothing about US politics and especially the way the US is viewed from outside

If you continue to prove this breathtaking level of ignorance I will have to stop responding to your posts on the grounds that is cruel to take advantage of the state you are in

Like I have had to do with Alias

 

[Gipper]

In fact Gipper you embody everything that is wrong with the US

Religious, right wing ignorami who have been suckered into demonising any efforts to increase social justice as socialism

It shows you have no idea what socialism is

It shows that you oppose the teachings of Jesus Christ who you claim to follow which makes you a hypocrite

It shows that you are sufficiently gullible to be suckered by the rich into voting against your own self interest

It shows you know nothing about US politics and especially the way the US is viewed from outside

If you continue to prove this breathtaking level of ignorance I will have to stop responding to your posts on the grounds that is cruel to take advantage of the state you are in

Like I have had to do with Alias

Too funny!!!

Your accusations made against me are absurd. It is not about me...it is about statements you have made.

You come to this forum and make outrageous statements backed by nothing and when confronted. you resort to the old leftist tactic of personal attacks.

The USA has had many left wing presidents. For one to say that ALL USA presidents are right wingers of varying degrees, is to prove one is completely uninformed. But, I do suspect that outside of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, or Marx, you might consider all others right wingers.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Ok, you are clearly very disturbed so I am not going to engage further as it would cruel to continue

 

[Alias]

Sure dear, and the holocaust was a lie, right?
In the mean time those "tools" are dying.

And, luckily, there are Jewish people who do not agree that Palestinians are just a disposable "tool," and that they have the right to live in their land.

Continue to believe whatever you want! I don't care!

If you read my link you would see that I didn't say it, but a muslim PLO leader said there is no such thing as a "Palestinian". The problem in the middle east isn't the Jew. Islamofascist Iran is the problem.

 

[Openmind]

If you read my link you would see that I didn't say it, but a muslim PLO leader said there is no such thing as a "Palestinian". The problem in the middle east isn't the Jew. Islamofascist Iran is the problem.

Sure. . .it is obvioulsy Iran who puts blocades on the Gaza strip. . . and killed 10 times more Palestinians (including children) than Israeli!

 

[WolfLarsen]

Somebody said:

Looks like the religious nuts are threatening Israel again. Looks like the warmongers are the Islamists.

The majority of Muslims are not warmongers. Actually, it seems to me that there are a lot of right-wing born-again Christians who are warmongers. Of course the pro-war ideology of right-wing born-again Christians puts them at odds with the teachings of Jesus Christ, but many right-wing born-again Christians are masters of hypocrisy.
Israel loves war, they just can't seem to get enough of it. The United States loves wars as well. A major problem is the influence of war profiteers in the American government.

Others argued that all this money spent on war and exotic weapons is not bankrupting our country. I disagree. Our nation seems to be headed in the direction of Greece. Too much war and to many exotic weapons along with too many bailouts for the rich are putting our nation ever closer to bankruptcy.

We simply cannot handle any more war.

However, the Democrats and the Republicans are determined to continue on their path of bringing destruction across the world in their egomaniac goal of becoming some new Roman Empire. This is absolutely insane!
The sad fact is the people running our country no longer represent the interests nor the ideals of the American people. A recent poll found that most Americans favor throwing every single member of Congress out on the street.

We need peace. We are not going to have peace until we throw the bums in Washington out of power. Let them get new jobs flipping hamburgers.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Sadly too many Americans know nothing about world politics and get their information from Fox news

Until that changes the US Government can get away with lying to the public to justify anything it wants to do

The way Israel treats Palestine is a disgrace and the US should condemn it

But then a huge % of top positions in Government, Banking and Media are held by Jews so that is not likely to happen

No doubt Hollywood will soon be making films about Palestinian children dropping White phospherous on the poor Israelus the way they did about the evil native Americans attacking the poor White man.

 

[Gipper]

Somebody said:


The majority of Muslims are not warmongers. Actually, it seems to me that there are a lot of right-wing born-again Christians who are warmongers. Of course the pro-war ideology of right-wing born-again Christians puts them at odds with the teachings of Jesus Christ, but many right-wing born-again Christians are masters of hypocrisy.
Israel loves war, they just can't seem to get enough of it. The United States loves wars as well. A major problem is the influence of war profiteers in the American government.

Others argued that all this money spent on war and exotic weapons is not bankrupting our country. I disagree. Our nation seems to be headed in the direction of Greece. Too much war and to many exotic weapons along with too many bailouts for the rich are putting our nation ever closer to bankruptcy.

We simply cannot handle any more war.

However, the Democrats and the Republicans are determined to continue on their path of bringing destruction across the world in their egomaniac goal of becoming some new Roman Empire. This is absolutely insane!
The sad fact is the people running our country no longer represent the interests nor the ideals of the American people. A recent poll found that most Americans favor throwing every single member of Congress out on the street.

We need peace. We are not going to have peace until we throw the bums in Washington out of power. Let them get new jobs flipping hamburgers.

There is so much wrong with your post, where do I start. Here goes.......

- Israel loves war. WRONG...they have bent over forwards and backwards for peace only to be stabbed in the back repeatedly by the Muslims. You like many on the left have most things backwards. The Muslims love war. The Israelis love peace.
- Right wing Christians want war...WRONG...who are these right wing Christians you speak of? What positions of power do they have? Can you name ONE right wing Christian in the current administration. Just one. JUST ONE!!!! And, can you name a few in Congress?
- Roman Empire??? I mean really dude...do you know anything about American history? If we wanted empire, we could have had it long ago. Your statement is complete foolishness and not backed by reality, but many left wingers are told this crap by kooky left wing media very stinking DAY.
- Wars are bankrupting America.. WRONG...socialism is bankrupting America...must you repeat ALL the talking points of the radical left???
- Those running our country no longer represent our interests....OKAY...I can agree with that. And, the first on my list is the Skinny Marxist.
- I very much like my Congressman. He is for individual liberty and rule of law...all of which the LEFT is against. But, sadly most in Congress and in this horrific administration do need to be replaced, because they are STINKING LEFTISTS!!!!

 

[WolfLarsen]

Somebody said:

- Israel loves war. WRONG...they have bent over forwards and backwards for peace only to be stabbed in the back repeatedly by the Muslims. You like many on the left have most things backwards. The Muslims love war. The Israelis love peace.
- Right wing Christians want war...WRONG...who are these right wing Christians you speak of? What positions of power do they have? Can you name ONE right wing Christian in the current administration. Just one. JUST ONE!!!! And, can you name a few in Congress?
- Roman Empire??? I mean really dude...do you know anything about American history? If we wanted empire, we could have had it long ago. Your statement is complete foolishness and not backed by reality, but many left wingers are told this crap by kooky left wing media very stinking DAY.
- Wars are bankrupting America.. WRONG...socialism is bankrupting America...must you repeat ALL the talking points of the radical left???
- Those running our country no longer represent our interests....OKAY...I can agree with that. And, the first on my list is the Skinny Marxist.
- I very much like my Congressman. He is for individual liberty and rule of law...all of which the LEFT is against. But, sadly most in Congress and in this horrific administration do need to be replaced, because they are STINKING LEFTISTS!!!!

The above quote from another poster is an example of how right-wing extremism is an increasing danger in our country. I'm very concerned about the future of our country when I read disturbing things like this. The above comment seems to be completely out of touch with reality.

Trying to reason with this kind of right-wing insanity is a waste of time.

However, for the clarity of others, let me point out some things. Obama is not a socialist. Obama is a capitalist. The first thing President B.O. did when he came to office was give away hundreds of billions of dollars to the rich people. Obama believes in welfare-for-the-rich just like any other capitalist politician.

Unfortunately, we do not have socialism in our country. We pay lots of taxes and that tax money goes to lots of war, bailouts for the rich, warehousing 2 million people behind prison bars every night in this war on drugs, etc.

If we lived in a socialist society your tax money would go to free quality medical care, free higher education, free quality childcare, excellent public transportation, better public schools, better public libraries, and rebuilding our nations dilapidated infrastructure.

Under socialism everyone would have the right to a job, and the minimum wage would be doubled.

I am not talking about the "socialism" of Western Europe. I'm speaking of the socialism of Lenin and Trotsky.

Under capitalism in America the wealthiest 1% of the population own nearly half of the wealth, according to the New York Times. Under socialism that ill-begotten wealth would be confiscated and used for the greater good of society.

Under capitalism in America we have endless war. These wars are bankrupting our nation. However, these wars are good for the capitalist war profiteers. As long as we have capitalism we will have endless war.

I defend Iran against American imperialism. No war with Iran. It is up to the Iranian people to overthrow their own government. The enemy of the American people is not in Iran. Iran is not foreclosing on American homes. Iran did not ruin our economy with derivative schemes. The enemy of the American people is on Wall Street, not in Iran.

The fact that Barack Obama is bullying Iran just like George Bush shows that both the Democrats and Republicans are warmongers.

 

[Openmind]

Somebody said:



The above quote from another poster is an example of how right-wing extremism is an increasing danger in our country. I'm very concerned about the future of our country when I read disturbing things like this. The above comment seems to be completely out of touch with reality.

Trying to reason with this kind of right-wing insanity is a waste of time.

However, for the clarity of others, let me point out some things. Obama is not a socialist. Obama is a capitalist. The first thing President B.O. did when he came to office was give away hundreds of billions of dollars to the rich people. Obama believes in welfare-for-the-rich just like any other capitalist politician.

Unfortunately, we do not have socialism in our country. We pay lots of taxes and that tax money goes to lots of war, bailouts for the rich, warehousing 2 million people behind prison bars every night in this war on drugs, etc.

If we lived in a socialist society your tax money would go to free quality medical care, free higher education, free quality childcare, excellent public transportation, better public schools, better public libraries, and rebuilding our nations dilapidated infrastructure.

Under socialism everyone would have the right to a job, and the minimum wage would be doubled.

I am not talking about the "socialism" of Western Europe. I'm speaking of the socialism of Lenin and Trotsky.

Under capitalism in America the wealthiest 1% of the population own nearly half of the wealth, according to the New York Times. Under socialism that ill-begotten wealth would be confiscated and used for the greater good of society.

Under capitalism in America we have endless war. These wars are bankrupting our nation. However, these wars are good for the capitalist war profiteers. As long as we have capitalism we will have endless war.

I defend Iran against American imperialism. No war with Iran. It is up to the Iranian people to overthrow their own government. The enemy of the American people is not in Iran. Iran is not foreclosing on American homes. Iran did not ruin our economy with derivative schemes. The enemy of the American people is on Wall Street, not in Iran.

The fact that Barack Obama is bullying Iran just like George Bush shows that both the Democrats and Republicans are warmongers.

I mostly agree with your post.
However, I disagree that Barack Obama is bullying Iran JUST LIKE Bush. He is actually showing a lot of patience and restrain, compare to Bush the warmonger, and especially in front of the push of the GOP to "bomb, bomb, bomb!"

If we had elected McCain and Palin. . .we would ALREADY be bombing Iran!
In fact, Obama is getting a lot of bashing for NOT being more aggressive toward Iran. Obama is a pragmatic, and he tries the best he can to keep a balance.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Imagine Palin and McCain in the whitehouse

One can't remember where he put his false teeth and the other can't remember a single newspaper she has read

How utterly mad were the republicans for fielding this pair of lunatics?