When did Hasan Iraq, or Afghanistan declare war on the USA and its allies. Has Iran declare war yet. The only middle east country that attack the USA was Saudi Arabia. I have not seen the USA go to what with them
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Iran warnes US to not return carrier to Persian Gulf
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it was iran we were discussing and just this week the Auatollah reiterated it.
Dawkinsrocks
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The US will attack Iran because of its position in the oil rich middle east and because of lobbying by Israel.
It will make up some lies about Iran having WMD and then they will have an Iranian speak to congress about Iranian soldiers throwing babies out of incubators like they did twice before, just before each of the wars on Iraq. Two people making exactly the same speech and in the case of the girl used the second time it was shown that she has never been to Iraq.
But none of this will matter
The US public is incapable of seeing the blindingly obvious truth if its government says differently
For those who are interested here is a good account of how the US people get suckered into supporting wars
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/incubatorlie.html
It will make up some lies about Iran having WMD and then they will have an Iranian speak to congress about Iranian soldiers throwing babies out of incubators like they did twice before, just before each of the wars on Iraq. Two people making exactly the same speech and in the case of the girl used the second time it was shown that she has never been to Iraq.
But none of this will matter
The US public is incapable of seeing the blindingly obvious truth if its government says differently
For those who are interested here is a good account of how the US people get suckered into supporting wars
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/incubatorlie.html
Gipper
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If you knew anything about American history, you would know the American people have consistently been against going to war. They did not want WWI or WWII, but were forced by a left wing president in the former and the attack at Pearl Harbor for the later (ever heard of Pearl Harbor???....its in Hawaii). In both wars, we had to put an end to the foolishness the warlike Europeans could not solve themselves. The Americans did not want involvement in Korea or Vietnam, but circumstances pushed America there and for good reason...to stop your beloved murderous, intolerant, and imperialist Communism.
You apparently believe America should have done nothing after 9/11. Something like 90% of Americans disagree with you. Are you smarter than nearly ALL Americans?
Dawkinsrocks
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If you knew anything about history at all...
America has never had a left wing president, just varying degrees of right wingedness
The US people were well behind the very right wing GWBush when he concocted his tissue of lies to sell the murdering of Muslims in the middle east
And you are one of them
And BTW the country that gave the most to secure victory in WW2 was Russia
Weirdly though, shortly after the war the US was best friends with Japan and Germany but at war with Russia. Well, in the eyes of the US public who were sold this lie to justify attacking countries like Korea and Vietnam who were not attacking the US
Now they have replaced Russia with lies about Muslims and you suckers are swallowing it again
''I saw the soldiers throwing babies out of incubators....''
And finally, the US only joined the World Wars for money
In world war one it was because the JP Morgan family lobbied congress after it had leant the UK billions of dollars and they were worried the UK would lose and renege on repayments
In the second the US saddled the UK with cripling debts that were only finally a repaid five or so years ago.
In WW2 the US Government allowed peral harbour to happen to sell the idea to the US idiots and it worked. Same with Bush and 9/11
Interesting, GWB's grandfather had his steel factory forcibly closed down for supplying the nazis long after this was outlawed by the US Government
Because the Bush family are nazis
America has never had a left wing president, just varying degrees of right wingedness
The US people were well behind the very right wing GWBush when he concocted his tissue of lies to sell the murdering of Muslims in the middle east
And you are one of them
And BTW the country that gave the most to secure victory in WW2 was Russia
Weirdly though, shortly after the war the US was best friends with Japan and Germany but at war with Russia. Well, in the eyes of the US public who were sold this lie to justify attacking countries like Korea and Vietnam who were not attacking the US
Now they have replaced Russia with lies about Muslims and you suckers are swallowing it again
''I saw the soldiers throwing babies out of incubators....''
And finally, the US only joined the World Wars for money
In world war one it was because the JP Morgan family lobbied congress after it had leant the UK billions of dollars and they were worried the UK would lose and renege on repayments
In the second the US saddled the UK with cripling debts that were only finally a repaid five or so years ago.
In WW2 the US Government allowed peral harbour to happen to sell the idea to the US idiots and it worked. Same with Bush and 9/11
Interesting, GWB's grandfather had his steel factory forcibly closed down for supplying the nazis long after this was outlawed by the US Government
Because the Bush family are nazis
Gipper
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Hahahahaahhahhaha.......I couldn't get any further than that.
You really have no idea of what you speak.
Hey everyone did you know Obama is a right winger? Its true...according to...someone.
Now that is funny.
Dawkinsrocks
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You have no geopolitical awareness
The US is one of the most right nations on earth
Democrats are slightly less right wing than retardlicans
You are just blinded by the extreme right's demonisation as anything that is socially responsible as socialist
It is another example of the stupidity of the average American
The US is one of the most right nations on earth
Democrats are slightly less right wing than retardlicans
You are just blinded by the extreme right's demonisation as anything that is socially responsible as socialist
It is another example of the stupidity of the average American
Dawkinsrocks
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But then you seem to be a catholic so views like the one you espouse above are almost rational in comparison to your bizarre beliefs in mythology
Alias
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I see your point. I can tell you're really really smart.
Gipper
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Gipper
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One thing for sure, you are NEVER consistent with your arguments. You said America has never had a left wing president, just varying degrees of right wingedness
Now you claim the US is one of the most right nations on earth. See how you changed your statement after being confronted?
So, is Obama a right wing president? And were LBJ or FDR or Wilson right wingers too? They are just varying degrees of rightness...right?
Too FUNNY!!!!!
Gipper any label is comparable. The USA has never had a Socialist or Labor Party in government so according to some definition has never had a left wing government. Australia and most of Europe has had such governments.
While I do not agree with everything DawkinsRocks says I think many of his idea are correct. There is need for The USA to go to war onIiiran because of a threat by one man
Openmind
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Would you provide a link that show Iran declaring war on the US?
And, if I'm correct, in the last few days, it is ISRAEL, who does have nuclear power, who is threatening almost immediate acts of war against Iran.
The worse thing you can do when face with a frightened, aggressive dog is to back him up into a corner (the same apply to a mentally disturbed person, by the way!). . .that gives the dog (and the mentally disturbed person) no way out but to attack!
you are really this distant from current events ?
and bullies back down when confronted. middle east people only respect power.
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Openmind
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So. . .where is the "DECLARATION OF WAR AGAINST THE US?"
And.. .right now, Israel is the bully. . . just as much as Iran!
Most people just have a problem realizing that because Israel has enjoyed our complete support for so long!
But they have acted as bullies toward the Palestinians for ever. . .and they have been as much of a threat to Iran, as Iran has been to Israel!
