If state provided healthcare is so bad....

[Dawkinsrocks]

Calling you mentally ill is not an insult

You have my sincere sympathy and I hope you recover

 

[dogtowner]

Calling you mentally ill is not an insult

You have my sincere sympathy and I hope you recover

no, its an attack.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Only because you don't like my views

You shouldn't be a moderator

 

[GenSeneca]

I guess what works for the goose works for the gander.

Your attacks are supposed to be considered "clever and warranted" but others'comments in the same vein are tagged as "ad hominem".

Once again you have failed to answer my question:

Do you believe anything considered "essential" to an individual's pursuit of happiness should be provided by the government?

 

[GenSeneca]

My point is that like necessity, rights are fluid

Are there any limits to what my be considered a "right"?
Should everything that is consider to be a "right" be provided by government?

 

[Arbopa]

Only because you don't like my views

More of the stereotypical left wing BS.

You would have to have independent thought to have your own views... what you spout is what your talking heads tell you, nothing more.

It stands to reason that you would not consider calling someone you do not know at all, mentally ill, an attack. Children are the same way.

 

[GenSeneca]

The responsibility of governments is to look after the people and a wealthy nation can extend this principle o the provision of healthcare

It is the responsibility of government to protect the rights of it's people not to meet the material needs of it's people.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

I see you don't mind state spending on armies and police

And mass murder and propaganda

But not on healthcare for Americans

No, those bastards can go hang

 

[Arbopa]

Perhaps what this extremist lefty would like to do, is redefine 'common defense' to include viruses and such... then he can include his, not provided for in the constitution, healthcare for all. Heck, both sides have twisted the constitution for generations to do what they want, and the left is so damn good at it, why not include health care as part of 'common defense' ...

As stupid as that would be, count on it being an angle taken eventually.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

For defence read attack

 

[GenSeneca]

I see you don't mind state spending on armies and police

And mass murder and propaganda

But not on healthcare for Americans

No, those bastards can go hang

As usual, you are avoiding my questions:

Are there any limits to what my be considered a "right"?
Should everything that is consider to be a "right" be provided by government?

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

Of course there are limits

Do you think you have made some devastating point here?

Clue, you haven't

Your question is utterly irrelevant

You think it is right to spend much more on arms and war than on healthcare at all and you think it is definitely more important than spending money keeping your own population healthy

That is a fact

Your healthcare system is both crap and discriminatory

That is a fact

 

[Arbopa]

Again, dodge, duck, weave...

Again, defense is in the constitution, health care is not.

I do not believe you think there are limits.. as you have not stated the, but rather, done the duck and weave yet again to keep re-spouting the talking point you picked up somewhere.

 

[Dawkinsrocks]

US arms spending is used largely for attack

That isn't in the constitution

 

[Arbopa]

Where is health care spending in the constitution?

Again, avoiding what you do not want to hear. No shock there.