I voted for Jill Stein today.

I couldn’t in good conscience vote Kamala. Jill Stein can call out any of these establishment mother fuckers with true class. It’s not her fault most of America is full of selfish ass conformists who never think for themselves. I vote for who I believe in and that’s not Killer Kamala. I live in Texas, so the republicans are going to win the state anyways. You call me a spoiler, and well I guess I see that as a badge of honor. Because clearly if democrats are doing what someone like you wants then they’re not going in the right direction.
It is widely believed that stein was a major factor in taking votes from Clinton which resulted in Trump victory. Do you think that theory has a good chance of being true?
 
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you think repeating something makes it magically true? lol

if you think the position of harris and trump on isreal are the same, there is no hope for you
It is true. You willfully ignore that this administration is just as complicit as a Trump administration would be in a genocide. You’re the gaslighter now. You’re Blue MAGA. You’ll defend the democrats no matter what just like Trump’s supporters would for him. Harris hasn’t even hinted that she’ll be any different on Israel. Anyone who says at this point “Israel has a right to defend itself” or “what happened on October 7th” is complicit and will continue to be when elected.
 
It is widely believed that stein was a major factor in taking votes from Clinton which resulted in Trump victory. Do you think that theory has a good chance of being true?
Not at all. Comey ruined Hillary way more than Stein did and AGAIN Biden won with Stein running in 2020. And Hillary was majorly hated especially by Bernie Supporters. Don’t ever scapegoat. It’s unbecoming. If you want to win then run a real god damn campaign. Don’t alienate your base for the secret republican donors and then tell them simply that orange man is bad.
 
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Not at all. Comey ruined Hillary way more than Stein did and AGAIN Biden won with Stein running in 2020. Don’t ever scapegoat. It’s unbecoming.
Two things could be true. So stein took votes from Clinton or not?

And I said “it is widely believed.” Asking a question is seldom “unbecoming.”
 
Two things could be true. So stein took votes from Clinton or not?

And I said “it is widely believed.” Asking a question is seldom “unbecoming.”
I added more to my reply and I think it only helps prove my point more. Democrats are their own worst enemy in this regard. No one wants to be told to fall in line and that’s exactly how this “a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump” comes across. And they say this while campaigning with the Cheneys.
 
I added more to my reply and I think it only helps prove my point more. Democrats are their own worst enemy in this regard. No one wants to be told to fall in line and that’s exactly how this “a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump” comes across. And they say this while campaigning with the Cheneys.
Look it is ok if stein took votes from Clinton. Heck Clinton took votes away from stein. I was just trying to get an answer from you. Nothing “unbecoming” and i am not trying to scapegoat anyone. You are entitled to your vote and also to your opinion. I always start with facts. Again:

- It is widely believed that stein was in part the cause for Clinton defeat.

Do you believe the above is factually likely correct? Don’t you think she got more from Clinton than from Trump? Numbers are numbers. Take the closest state, Michigan, Wisconsin? By how many votes did Trump win and how many votes did stein get? It is just numbers.
 
It’s not irrelevant if it fulfilled its purpose as a protest vote which would obviously mean Kamala losing,
There you have it. All you want is for democrats to lose and a dictator takes over. Well done dickhead.


you racist neo-con piece of shit pretending to be a democrat. This shit needs to lose frankly.
It doesn't matter what I vote because my vote will never change a govt. It's people like you who swing at those who do. In this case you have just voted for Trump. You deserve what you get and I'll remind you.

It’ll make the democrats stronger if they’re finally willing to learn something from defeat.
No it won't. If that's your thoughts process you are a political ignorant dickhead.

And they need to drop your sorry ass completely, whatever it is that you support them for which I’d imagine isn’t anything I support them for which are real liberal values.
The audacity of you telling others about what they vote yet you change your mind completely to install the one you hate.
You're brain dead.
 
It is true. You willfully ignore that this administration is just as complicit as a Trump administration would be in a genocide. You’re the gaslighter now. You’re Blue MAGA. You’ll defend the democrats no matter what just like Trump’s supporters would for him. Harris hasn’t even hinted that she’ll be any different on Israel. Anyone who says at this point “Israel has a right to defend itself” or “what happened on October 7th” is complicit and will continue to be when elected.
Lol
Repeating doesn't make it true
 
This is an anonymous forum. What people say they voted for may not be who they voted for.

I can see a Trump sychpant in one forum target soft Harris supporters and in another soft Trump supporters.

While the person would actually vote for Trump, they would declare to have voted for stein and explain because although they are usually a dem voter they just hate dems role in Gaza. So they would vote for stein in the hope that a defeat for Harris would wake up the dem party hoping that in the future dems would be in control. This will gaslight soft Harris voters to vote stein.

It could be a fine attempt at gaslighting imo.

And i admit that there are also genuine and honest stein voters who are fed up with both dems and the gop and will never again vote major party. Voting third part is not a sin. And if we ever adopt instant runoff I would vote third party all the time.

We are all entitled to our opinions and that includes of what we think of posters on this forum and of their opinions.

But I know this for sure: this forum is not real life. If some writer created some of the characters on this forum they would win the top fiction awards. Lol
 
Look it is ok if stein took votes from Clinton. Heck Clinton took votes away from stein. I was just trying to get an answer from you. Nothing “unbecoming” and i am not trying to scapegoat anyone. You are entitled to your vote and also to your opinion. I always start with facts. Again:

- It is widely believed that stein was in part the cause for Clinton defeat.

Do you believe the above is factually likely correct? Don’t you think she got more from Clinton than from Trump? Numbers are numbers. Take the closest state, Michigan, Wisconsin? By how many votes did Trump win and how many votes did stein get? It is just numbers.
Clinton was hated by Bernie Supporters. So it wasn’t smart to run her in the first place. It’s been practically proven that Bernie could’ve won that election had the DNC not rigged it for her. 2016 was a populist election year and she was a total establishment pick. She couldn’t maintain basic blue wall states. She’s the worst candidate we ever ran.
 
There you have it. All you want is for democrats to lose and a dictator takes over. Well done dickhead.



It doesn't matter what I vote because my vote will never change a govt. It's people like you who swing at those who do. In this case you have just voted for Trump. You deserve what you get and I'll remind you.


No it won't. If that's your thoughts process you are a political ignorant dickhead.


The audacity of you telling others about what they vote yet you change your mind completely to install the one you hate.
You're brain dead.
You’re a genocidal bootlicking racist. What democrat party that’s living up to its virtues would want you in it?? I bet you’re just a Biden democrat. In the same way that there were Reagan republicans. Well he’s going to be remembered for genocide. And that’s that.
 
Clinton was hated by Bernie Supporters. So it wasn’t smart to run her in the first place. It’s been practically proven that Bernie could’ve won that election had the DNC not rigged it for her. 2016 was a populist election year and she was a total establishment pick. She couldn’t maintain basic blue wall states. She’s the worst candidate we ever ran.
I cannot disagree with anything you said above.

I am puzzled that I cannot get you to opine if you agree stein got more votes from Clinton than Trump. It is ok if you think against common belief. And it is ok if you simply said you don’t know. You are entitled to your opinion.

I wonder if a semi scientific research has been done on from whom stein got more votes.
 
I cannot disagree with anything you said above.

I am puzzled that I cannot get you to opine if you agree stein got more votes from Clinton than Trump. It is ok if you think against common belief. And it is ok if you simply said you don’t know. You are entitled to your opinion.

I wonder if a semi scientific research has been done on from whom stein got more votes.
I just don’t think it helps in this moment to ponder that. If Stein is taking away votes from Harris then we all know why. It’s because of a genocide that she refuses to acknowledge as such. It’s her own fault if she loses. Not mine for voting my conscience.
 
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Based on recent revelations from top people handpicked by trump who should know
Trump well, it is now clear that trump thinks there were some “good people” among Nazis and nazi generals

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