High-level leftists quick to use Colorado theater shootings to demand more "gun control"

[TheJPRD]

It's high time that we conservatives start blaming the right people for the murders of innocent citizens. It's the American Left that's destroyed our nation's moral principles! It's the American Left that's brainwashed our children to think they're gods, and that self-control and personal-responsibility are outdated principles! It's the American Left that's forbidden law-abiding citizens to defend themselves from scum like Holmes!

The American Left blames Conservatives for gun-murders, even when the local laws inhibit legal gun ownership. Let's quit being a "Target" for the lies of the American Left, and start placing the blame for these murders where it belongs; the leftist scum who are destroying our National culture! Let's start screaming for leftwing scalps!

 

[Johnny Tremain]

"It's high time that we conservatives start blaming the right people for the murders of innocent citizens. It's the American Left that's destroyed our nation's moral principles! It's the American Left that's brainwashed our children to think they're gods, and that self-control and personal-responsibility are outdated principles! It's the American Left that's forbidden law-abiding citizens to defend themselves from scum like Holmes!

The American Left blames Conservatives for gun-murders, even when the local laws inhibit legal gun ownership. Let's quit being a "Target" for the lies of the American Left, and start placing the blame for these murders where it belongs; the leftist scum who are destroying our National culture! Let's start screaming for leftwing scalps!

Amen!

 

[steveox]

It's high time that we conservatives start blaming the right people for the murders of innocent citizens. It's the American Left that's destroyed our nation's moral principles! It's the American Left that's brainwashed our children to think they're gods, and that self-control and personal-responsibility are outdated principles! It's the American Left that's forbidden law-abiding citizens to defend themselves from scum like Holmes!

The American Left blames Conservatives for gun-murders, even when the local laws inhibit legal gun ownership. Let's quit being a "Target" for the lies of the American Left, and start placing the blame for these murders where it belongs; the leftist scum who are destroying our National culture! Let's start screaming for leftwing scalps!

 

[Johnny Tremain]

It is shocking how BRAIN-DEAD many of our younger folks are--and this guy SEEMED capable of continuous, productive thoughts.
Ritalin.
With a Hollywood blasting cap.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

I think it is a right. Your supposed to get a jury of your peers.
Maybe Holmes will get an all redheaded male jury with a Joker complex.

"Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest."
--Voltaire

 

[steveox]

Wanna know why our founding fathers wrote the Bill Of rights on subject on the right to legal council? Cause might rights on our bill of rights came from the bible. Like it says when you die and you go to heaven automaticly cause Jesus forgives our sins and Jesus defends you from GOD so you wont go to hell. When Jesus died on that cross it means all sinners or forgiven. Jesus is by your side defends you from going to hell. Thats where the idea our founding fathers came up with the right to leagal council.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

Wanna know why our founding fathers wrote the Bill Of rights on subject on the right to legal council? Cause might rights on our bill of rights came from the bible. Like it says when you die and you go to heaven automaticly cause Jesus forgives our sins and Jesus defends you from GOD so you wont go to hell. When Jesus died on that cross it means all sinners or forgiven. Jesus is by your side defends you from going to hell. Thats where the idea our founding fathers came up with the right to leagal council.

If the Founding Fathers saw the state of of lawyers in this country today--they would be appalled at their craven ways.
Few are worth their salt.

 

[steveox]

I wish someone invents an time machine so i can go back to 1780 and show thomas jefferson about our legal system today.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

I wish someone invents an time machine so i can go back to 1780 and show thomas jefferson about our legal system today.

Maybe Rod Taylor still has that one in London in his parlor.
I think Weena is still shacking there with him.

 

[dogtowner]

how about the 2nd? you know the words Well Regulated are in there right? I know you guys hate that part. And yes it jammed...I think it did its job though...

militias should be well regulated lest they become bandits and pseudo government goons.
would have been far more dead had it operated correctly.

 

[dogtowner]

If the Founding Fathers saw the state of of lawyers in this country today--they would be appalled at their craven ways.
Few are worth their salt.

they knew full well this was possible, they thought they had it under control but Lincoln was the undoing. or at least the start.

 

[steveox]

You see back in 1800s Republicans were liberals Democrats were conservitive. Democrats favor slavery Republicans didnt.

 

[dogtowner]

You see back in 1800s Republicans were liberals Democrats were conservitive. Democrats favor slavery Republicans didnt.

given the Great Society I'd say the dems still favor slavery

 

[Gipper]

how about the 2nd? you know the words Well Regulated are in there right? I know you guys hate that part. And yes it jammed...I think it did its job though...

I love when you libs want to limit rights...like your desire to take away our rights to guns. Why are you libs so tyrannical all the time?

At any rate, you are wrong AGAIN. The SC decided the 2nd Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT!!! I know a collectivist like you hates those pesky rights for individuals.

Read this and educate yourself...

As reported and summarized here, a divided three-judge panel for the United States Court of Appeals for the D.C. circuit has ruled “that the District of Columbia’s gun control laws violate individuals’ Second Amendment rights”. “According to the majority opinion, “[T]he phrase ‘the right of the people,’ when read intratextually and in light of Supreme Court precedent, leads us to conclude that the right in question is individual.”"
The full opinion is well worth reading. Compared to most dishonest mainstream constitutional interpretation, this opinion is a breath of fresh air.

To summarize, we conclude that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms. That right existed prior to the formation of the new government under the Constitution and was premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad). In addition, the right to keep and bear arms had the important and salutary civic purpose of helping to preserve the citizen militia. The civic purpose was also a political expedient for the Federalists in the First Congress as it served, in part, to placate their Antifederalist opponents. The individual right facilitated militia service by ensuring that citizens would not be barred from keeping the arms they would need when called forth for militia duty. Despite the importance of the Second Amendment’s civic purpose, however, the activities it protects are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual’s enjoyment of the right contingent upon his or her continued or intermittent enrollment in the militia.​

http://archive.mises.org/6359/feds-finally-recognize-second-amendment-rights/​

 

[GenSeneca]

how about the 2nd? you know the words Well Regulated are in there right? I know you guys hate that part. And yes it jammed...I think it did its job though...

Was Holmes a member of a Militia that we haven't heard about? After all, the words "Well Regulated" that appear in the 2nd are immediately followed by the word "Militia"... I know you Leftists hate that part, in your warped minds the words in the text have moved around without anyone else noticing:

What the 2nd actually says: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

What Pocket likes to pretend it says: "A *relocated text* Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear well regulated Arms, shall not be infringed (whenever Leftists feel like doing so)."

Typical bullshit Republican ....said nothing when anyone said its why we need more conceal and carry laws...

I'd like to point out that, once again, the theater where this shooting took place was a "Gun Free Zone", as are most of the places mass murders choose to go on their shooting sprees - because they know damn well all of the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves. They may be homicidal maniacs, but they aren't stupid... You never hear about a mass shooting taking place at a gun show, a target range, a police station, or anywhere else that criminals KNOW the people in attendance are fully capable of defending themselves.

but its wrong for anyone to say...hey you know maybe we don't all need ar-15s with 100 round drums of ammo..

Sure, you can say it... Just don't expect to be taken seriously with such a vacuous argument.

And of course the old, Its not the right time to talk about gun control...but of course it never is...Im sorry do we have to wait for the next guy with 100 rounds of ammo to go shooting mass groups of peope...or 2 more? 3 more? when is the time to talk about it?

Let's talk about it now... You can start by answering this simple question:

What is the exact number of innocent people that can be murdered by homicidal maniacs on a shooting spree before you stop pushing for stricter gun laws?

You ban the 100 round mag, so the next mass murderer uses a 50 round mag, so you ban those too, then the next one uses a 30 round mag, so you ban those, the next uses 10 round mags, naturally those must also be banned because clearly banning has worked out great so far....

Even if you banned everything else and only allowed for people to use single shot bolt action 22 caliber rifles, homicidal maniacs would use those to kill people! What then?

Here is your proof....Nations with strict gun laws...far less Murders and gun deaths...

How many of those countries have Bloods, Crips, and MS13 to deal with? Let's round up all those gang bangers and ship them to whatever country you think has the best gun laws and see what happens to the crime rates here in America and your country of choice.

Highest gun ownership per person...

There are roughly 80 million gun owners in America. One guy - ONE EFFING GUY, - went on a killing spree while the other 79,999,999 gun owners didn't kill anybody and you knee-jerk progs see punishing ALL gun owners as the solution to the problem.

Highest Murder rate by huge numbers...But yea. not corrilated...Americans are just by nature murders I guess.

The poorest cities are all dominated by democrat mayors
But yea. not correlated... Americans are just poor by nature.