825 billion dollars in new borrowing and spending

Well, you have to admit, you guys get 'Change you can believe in', even though you may find it 'unbelievable!'.

Obama's massive stimulus plan, could be the first step of the final nail that knocks US off the edge into the abyss of full blown bankruptcy. The lesson of the abject failure of the first $350bn, seems to have taught economists nothing. You can add that to the billions being injected across the globe, for all others trying desperately to create fake balance sheets for their big businesses too.

You know you really have to worry, when you see Walmart stocks rising. Things like that usually happen before a major fall. ( What seems like 'growth' to them, merely tells you that more people have very much less money to spend)

A really large % of the US population will see ZERO benefit from stimulus, as most of that will evaporate into the bank accounts of a few under the guise of 'loss'and 'corporate expenditure'.

Institutions suddenly 'became' banks, just to access these funds. Instead of the senate immediately outlawing that from the outset, it fabulously materialised into reality with such ease , so you have to question the credibility of ALL the legislators. How incredible that people accusing others of being asleep at the switch, are actually asleep at the switch themselves .

Legislators, are actually brilliant about passing bills that should never exist, and finding extreme difficulty in doing things that are actually necessary.
Isn't it amazing that taxpayers money, is being used to buy 'Liabilities' ( troubled '' assets) ? Thats like saying 'Rotten apples for sale...don't miss your chance to invest in this spectacular deal'!'
They then go on to rationalise how this can all actually become 'good' for the taxpayer:)

Obama comes along to say ' YES WE CAN' , and continues the spree of spreading not only taxpayers money, but 'borrowed' money as well. Legislators supposedly weren't happy with the way the first lot disappeared, but hurry through legislation on more.

Its amazing to watch these 'experts' at work.

You cannot expect much from an administration that still advocates 'Free Markets..no protection..no regulation' - the consequences will be dire indeed. Of course, thats all easily rationalised . It'll be interesting to see just how much the American people can actually swallow before mass demonstrations, rioting and anarchy start to get aimed fully at the Whitehouse.

While a larger % of the population is still relatively personally unaffected by all thats happening, its only a matter of time until disaster spreads to the front door of all. Now, you see just the beginnings of what will worsen through 2009/2010. Jobs are being erased at a daily rate thats even scary in just official figures.

The economy cannot revive, until any stimulus can address the regeneration of the job market. Unfortunately, Obama's stimulus can only address job creation in a very fractional way. At the current rate of unemployment, for every 1 job he creates, 3 may be lost and no taxpayers money will be recovered, further increasing the deficit.

I'd not really comment on the gloom, if I had no solution to offer. I did contact the transition team, and various state departments, senators offices etc. Listening however, is not up to me:) Sometimes, as is the nature of mankind..it takes a full blown collapse for governments to listen. Until that time, leaders will continue their efforts in vain...not just in US, but across the globe.

By mid 2009, you will see China also suffer massive job losses because at the moment, they're busy trying to cover up the realities too. Why else would a nation confident of 9% growth, use 'stimulus' ??

While a few legislators may be critical, what are their comments really worth ? All that becomes is an 'I told you so' sometime down the line.

I suppose many will watch the inauguration..the tears..the big talk , all over again, and perhaps begin to really wonder what they truly voted for. 'Change' is a constant, and guaranteed , its the results that are important.

If the current choices in the team selections are not sounding very encouraging to Republicans, and Democrats alike, then you can be sure that these are very early red flags.

A leader that cannot take relevant instruction and solid advice, is a detriment to himself, and the nation. Disasters however, are avoidable, when leaders have the presence of mind, to actually 'listen'.
 
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The solutions are many and varied and who knows what will work...
Who knows? I know... Its not rocket science or brain surgery, its more like botany. To get a plant to grow, you need to make sure it gets 4 ingredients: CO2, Water, Soil and Sunlight.

so the gamble is do something rather than do nothing and stick ones head in the sand...
Nobody is proposing that we do nothing. I can't stress that enough... Deregulating the red tape that's suffocating capitalism is something, adding more unnecessary regulatory red tape and further suffocating capitalism is another something. Those are the only two options, both parties want the latter because it increases their power over the private sector.

The (free) market left to its own devices would have seen the collapse of the banking system as you and I know which is probably the sort of darwinism that was needed, however, if you advocate a complete crash to satisfy over simplistic political dogma then fine!
Wrong, wrong, wrong! It wasn't the "free" market that caused the problems and led to the collapse, it was government interference and regulations in the free market that did that. The CRA and a complete lack of oversight by government over the government institutions of Fannie and Freddie drove that bus off the cliff. Politicians looked the other way while Fannie and Freddie cooked the books because they were big political donors to both parties. It wasn't capitalist corruption that created and destroyed the housing bubble, it was government corruption.


Just a thought though on your advocacy of freedom - I was wondering why the very bastions of the free market were the ones hammering on the doors of the fed to be bailed out?
Did you notice that the ones deemed "too big to fail", the ones who qualified for bailout money, also happened to be the ones with the largest voting blocks (UAW), the ones with the most government control (Banks), the ones who could securitize bad loans to continue high risk lending (AIG), and they all just happened to be big in political donations? The banks, the ones "too big to fail", got their bailout money and used it to buy their failed or failing competition, the ones who weren't "too big to fail", and they got even bigger. If a politician gives you 1 million dollars of taxpayer money, with the deal that you turn around and give them a political donation of $500,000 in return, then you've both just "legally" split the taxpayers million dollars.

Why if the free market is so elastic and responsive would the likes of Madoff have any problems in conducting their financial "dealings"?
I've said this before, there is a TOTAL lack of investigation into his political connections. He had cover from the Security Exchange Commission (executive appointees) and representatives in Washington (legislative branch) in order to carry out his scam for so long. Have you seen his, or his funds, declared political contributions over the time he was scamming people? Of course not... You might see a connection there if you did.

There needs to be regulation otherwise there is anarchy...
This is the most popular misconception about Capitalism there is... that Capitalism=Anarchism. Its just not true. We have a constitution that empowers government to protect our rights. If a company infringes upon the rights of an individual, fraud, discrimination, breech of contract etc, the government has the power - without the need for industry or economic regulations - to address those infringements and correct them through the courts.


I have a feeling that if Colt's Manufacturing Company was to enter into trade negotiations with the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan there would be a slight unease within the ranks of the free traders - although it would be good business for Colt in these difficult times!
You chose a bad example. Colt is American based for manufacturing so their costs of production are much higher than the production costs in countries, like the middle east and Asia, where employees can literally be a dime a dozen. Aside from that, so long as the group isn't on a terrorist list or residing in a state that sponsors terrorism, Colt is already allowed to trade with them... They don't want colts though, or any other American made guns, because there are cheaper, equal quality, weapons available from other countries.

You mentioned the role of Politicians acting like gamblers with tax payers money? But that's what politicians do! Not only with money but with peoples very lives - look at Iraq or Afghanistan. Rolling the dice is their job! They will take the credit if they pull it off or blame someone else if it goes tits up!
Its disgusting that they can spend taxpayer money bailing out failing corporations then get kickbacks from those same corporations in the form of political contributions. They are gambling with our money, losing it, but losing nothing of their own, in fact, they are profiting from our losses and demanding we make even more sacrifices. Rolling the dice is their job, profiting from every roll while we lose is not.

Capitalism is self regulating, Government is not.
 

825 billion dollars in new borrowing and spending

This is downright scary:

Senate Releases Second Portion of Bailout Fund

If the economy really turns around, and the government is actually able to make up for that $825 billion dollar spending spree, then great.

Does the federal government really know what it is doing this time around? What do you think?
 
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This is downright scary:

Senate Releases Second Portion of Bailout Fund





But, haven't the Republicans been trying to borrow and spend our way to prosperity for years already?

If the economy really turns around, and the government is actually able to make up for that $825 billion dollar spending spree, then great. If not, then we'll be in a deep recession, with a national debt approaching $12 trillion, or over $36,000 for every citizen of this late great nation of ours.

Does the federal government really know what it is doing this time around? What do you think?
This post is from 2007.
 
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