The Competing Plans to Destroy America

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I was reading the Huffington Post today when I saw this article about how McCain's list of 300 Economists are filled with Skeptics. They were talking about how most of these guys didn't even like McCain, but the truth is, and what they didn't say was that they probably liked Obama even less.

In an era where Congress gets an approval rating of just 9%, the lowest ever recorded people are realizing more and more that Congress, our Candidates and everyone in between in Washington is just in it for themselves.

While the Presidential Candidates might not be in this for themselves, both of them have clearly forgotten that Capitalism has made this country great. Both of them clearly need to read "How Capitalism Saved America" by Thomas Dilorenzo, and "The Myth of Robber Baron" by Burton W. Folsom. Maybe then, they can gain a clear understanding of why America is greater than Europe, and more economically and militarily powerful than any other nation on this planet.

In the mean time, let's take a look at just how each one of these guys is competing to destroy America shall we.

McCain:
John McCain's Cap & Trade system is like a Millstone around the neck of a drowning man. This is a system that would absolutely devastate the U.S. economy by imposing a 3.2 Trillion dollar taxing aparatus that would reduce GDP by anywhere from 1 to 2.8 Trillion by 2050. What that means is if you divide the median figure by our population, you're looking at over $6000.00 for every man woman and child in this country in lost wages and, or extra fees paid to energy producers. The worst part of this is that the whole Global Warming theory is based upon faulty data that is only now seeing the light of day. Most won't bother to tell you that the current warming cycle actually started back in the 1600's at the end of the "Little Ice Age". There are even those saying that Global Warming has ended. Think gas and electric bills are high now? Just wait for Cap & Trade!

But wait, there's MORE:
McCain's immigration policy is something that leaves much to be desired. While I agree that we should do something about the Millions who live here illegally, the very first thing we need to do is to secure our borders and then, only then will we be able to go ahead and provide some sort of integration program for the people living here illegally, otherwise, you're just encouraging this problem to continue. The truth is, we can't solve problems with Health Care, Education and other issues without first addressing one of the biggest drains on those resources.

Just ONE other thing that bothers me:

I wonder what McCain would say if someone told his Wife, that her Beer company had to come up with a non-alcoholic Wine alternative to beer? He would probably say, "It's her company, she's in the business of producing Beer, not Wine. In that same vein, why is he chastising Oil companies for not producing alternatives to hydrocarbons? Also, why is he chastising them for earning a mere 8% return on investments, when Banks are earning 18%, Software 25% and many other industries earning much more? Government taxes actually take up much higher percentages of what we pay for Gas than anything else, and I'm sure Regulations add quite a bit to that figure as well. What bothers me is that again, he shows that he doesn't have a clue as to how this country runs and what makes it great. Comments like these don't show leadership, they show pandering to the left and pandering to those who don't understand the issues.

Barrack Obama:

Where do I even start. When it comes to everything I've just said, his plans are equally as devastating to the economy as McCain's, and even worse. To top it off, his repeal of the Bush Tax cuts will raise the average tax paying families taxes by at least 10%. To many people, they don't quite understand this because they have the Government withhold say $5,000.00 from their income, owe $4500.00 in taxes, and get back $500.00 at the end of the year, so they think they're ahead. Those guys don't realize that they can now forget about that $500.00, it now belongs to Obama and company.

To top it off, most people don't realize that the Bottom 50% in America only pay just over 3% of all income taxes collected, the top 50% pay almost 97%, so this claim on his website that he will "completely eliminate Income Taxes for 10 Million Americans" is a farce, they already pay either nothing or next to nothing. In addition, why should Senior citizens making $49,000.00 a year not have to pay any taxes, when a single Mom with children to feed and cloth, she does have to pay taxes under the Obama plan. I'll tell you why, because since Seniors vote in much larger groups then younger people, this is an outright attempt by Obama to buy their vote. Back to the same old Class Warfare that Democrats are so good at.
fed-rev-spend-2008-boc-T4-The-Top-10-Percent-of-Income.gif

It only gets worse, the top 2% that Obama is talking about already pay about half of all income taxes collected. While you may not wish to cry a tear for them, since hell, they are the top 2% right? Well, most of those same top 2% own the small businesses that provide 65% of all the jobs in the U.S. It only stands to reason that the more cash you take away from these guys, the less cash they will have to provide new jobs, and small business is the engine that drives the U.S. Economy, thanks for throwing a wrench in there Obama.

Oh and here's the Good part:

In addition to higher taxes on the top 2%, Obama's also promoting the elimination of the caps on Social Security. This means that a small employer will have to substantially increase what he's now paying to Social Security, especially if that small business has some professionals on his staff who earn more than the Social Security cap, which again means less incentives to hire more.

Stance on Energy & Trade:
Up until 2005, the U.S. was the worlds largest exporter, and the only reason we've fallen behind to 3rd place, was because of the fall in the value of the U.S. dollar in 2005, that continued through 2006, 2007 and 2008. The biggest reason for the fall in the Dollar started with the Dollar sell off in Europe because of the new Euro Currency displacing dollars, but more recently, the dollar has been more and more affected by our imports of Oil, which are projected to be at over a HALF TRILLION a year at current prices or just under half of all our exports. We are literally giving away America's wealth to the Oil producers of the world. What's Obama's stance on more Oil production? Dr. No! Relying on the fantasy of Solar Power and Wind is not a viable solution, these technologies currently cost up to ten times more than hydrocarbons (Oil & Gas), and while yes, they will become less expensive in the future, the goal seems to be to make hydrocarbons cost more, instead of getting alternatives to cost less. Which means we can expect even higher electric bills and gas prices.

What's Obama's stance on trade, more protectionists policies, even though we've had a net gain in Jobs from NAFTA and our other trade agreements, Obama instead chooses to pander to fears instead of facts, that somehow we're getting the short end of the stick. Yes, some people do lose jobs with some of these agreements, but for the most part, more new jobs are created than the ones that are lost. Free trade is one of the reasons the U.S. has some of the lowest levels of unemployment in the world. In the EU, they celebrate that their unemployment is "only 7.1%, here that would be a disaster!

Big Government Spender

Obama is all about investments, and his website is chock full of "We will invest in this and invest in that" so of course, where the heck is all this cash going to come from? The government budget is already almost 2.8 Trillion Dollars, a 13 fold increase since 1970, so how much more do we have to pay in taxes? There's only so much you can take away from the private sector before all the cash starts to disappear. Just like in the 70's when the top rate was 75%, people just won't bother to make the money, if they know they just have to hand it all over to Uncle Sam. That will leave me and you with the bill.

Bob Barr:
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Sure Bob Barr the Libertarian candidate is running for president, but they've got the whole thing ass backwards. When the Republicans wanted to take on the Democrats and the Wigs back in the 1800's, they didn't say "Hey, we're going to run Abe Lincoln here for prez. No, they built up a solid grassroots support network, got support from others who wanted to end slavery and give non-landowners the right to vote, along with support for land for the Poor programs. One they had their platform in place, they got congressmen elected, took over a good deal of seats in the house, and then, only then did they field their presidential candidate. The rest is history, the Wigs ended up joining the Republicans and ceased to be a party. However, the Libertarians seem to want change from the top down, instead of from the bottom up.

It doesn't matter that I support almost every issue that the Libertarians have, even if Bob Barr were to win the election, no one in congress or the senate will work with him, so what's the point. He'll have zero political capital to spend and won't get anything done.

So that's it folks, that's our choices:

Which candidate will do his best to destroy America and ruin the foundations on which she was built upon? Do we take:
Dumb or Dumber
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Socialism will NOT destroy America, idiot. It will IMPROVE America!

Trump is the one who will wreck this country. We should all pray that the bastard dies soon!
 
Socialism will NOT destroy America, idiot. It will IMPROVE America!

Trump is the one who will wreck this country. We should all pray that the bastard dies soon!
Trump wasn’t even a factor when this post was made lol Oh man, if only they knew then how stupid republicans would become.
 
mccain-obama.jpg

I was reading the Huffington Post today when I saw this article about how McCain's list of 300 Economists are filled with Skeptics. They were talking about how most of these guys didn't even like McCain, but the truth is, and what they didn't say was that they probably liked Obama even less.

In an era where Congress gets an approval rating of just 9%, the lowest ever recorded people are realizing more and more that Congress, our Candidates and everyone in between in Washington is just in it for themselves.

While the Presidential Candidates might not be in this for themselves, both of them have clearly forgotten that Capitalism has made this country great. Both of them clearly need to read "How Capitalism Saved America" by Thomas Dilorenzo, and "The Myth of Robber Baron" by Burton W. Folsom. Maybe then, they can gain a clear understanding of why America is greater than Europe, and more economically and militarily powerful than any other nation on this planet.

In the mean time, let's take a look at just how each one of these guys is competing to destroy America shall we.

McCain:
John McCain's Cap & Trade system is like a Millstone around the neck of a drowning man. This is a system that would absolutely devastate the U.S. economy by imposing a 3.2 Trillion dollar taxing aparatus that would reduce GDP by anywhere from 1 to 2.8 Trillion by 2050. What that means is if you divide the median figure by our population, you're looking at over $6000.00 for every man woman and child in this country in lost wages and, or extra fees paid to energy producers. The worst part of this is that the whole Global Warming theory is based upon faulty data that is only now seeing the light of day. Most won't bother to tell you that the current warming cycle actually started back in the 1600's at the end of the "Little Ice Age". There are even those saying that Global Warming has ended. Think gas and electric bills are high now? Just wait for Cap & Trade!

But wait, there's MORE:
McCain's immigration policy is something that leaves much to be desired. While I agree that we should do something about the Millions who live here illegally, the very first thing we need to do is to secure our borders and then, only then will we be able to go ahead and provide some sort of integration program for the people living here illegally, otherwise, you're just encouraging this problem to continue. The truth is, we can't solve problems with Health Care, Education and other issues without first addressing one of the biggest drains on those resources.

Just ONE other thing that bothers me:
I wonder what McCain would say if someone told his Wife, that her Beer company had to come up with a non-alcoholic Wine alternative to beer? He would probably say, "It's her company, she's in the business of producing Beer, not Wine. In that same vein, why is he chastising Oil companies for not producing alternatives to hydrocarbons? Also, why is he chastising them for earning a mere 8% return on investments, when Banks are earning 18%, Software 25% and many other industries earning much more? Government taxes actually take up much higher percentages of what we pay for Gas than anything else, and I'm sure Regulations add quite a bit to that figure as well. What bothers me is that again, he shows that he doesn't have a clue as to how this country runs and what makes it great. Comments like these don't show leadership, they show pandering to the left and pandering to those who don't understand the issues.

Barrack Obama:
Where do I even start. When it comes to everything I've just said, his plans are equally as devastating to the economy as McCain's, and even worse. To top it off, his repeal of the Bush Tax cuts will raise the average tax paying families taxes by at least 10%. To many people, they don't quite understand this because they have the Government withhold say $5,000.00 from their income, owe $4500.00 in taxes, and get back $500.00 at the end of the year, so they think they're ahead. Those guys don't realize that they can now forget about that $500.00, it now belongs to Obama and company.

To top it off, most people don't realize that the Bottom 50% in America only pay just over 3% of all income taxes collected, the top 50% pay almost 97%, so this claim on his website that he will "completely eliminate Income Taxes for 10 Million Americans" is a farce, they already pay either nothing or next to nothing. In addition, why should Senior citizens making $49,000.00 a year not have to pay any taxes, when a single Mom with children to feed and cloth, she does have to pay taxes under the Obama plan. I'll tell you why, because since Seniors vote in much larger groups then younger people, this is an outright attempt by Obama to buy their vote. Back to the same old Class Warfare that Democrats are so good at.
fed-rev-spend-2008-boc-T4-The-Top-10-Percent-of-Income.gif

It only gets worse, the top 2% that Obama is talking about already pay about half of all income taxes collected. While you may not wish to cry a tear for them, since hell, they are the top 2% right? Well, most of those same top 2% own the small businesses that provide 65% of all the jobs in the U.S. It only stands to reason that the more cash you take away from these guys, the less cash they will have to provide new jobs, and small business is the engine that drives the U.S. Economy, thanks for throwing a wrench in there Obama.

Oh and here's the Good part:
In addition to higher taxes on the top 2%, Obama's also promoting the elimination of the caps on Social Security. This means that a small employer will have to substantially increase what he's now paying to Social Security, especially if that small business has some professionals on his staff who earn more than the Social Security cap, which again means less incentives to hire more.

Stance on Energy & Trade:
Up until 2005, the U.S. was the worlds largest exporter, and the only reason we've fallen behind to 3rd place, was because of the fall in the value of the U.S. dollar in 2005, that continued through 2006, 2007 and 2008. The biggest reason for the fall in the Dollar started with the Dollar sell off in Europe because of the new Euro Currency displacing dollars, but more recently, the dollar has been more and more affected by our imports of Oil, which are projected to be at over a HALF TRILLION a year at current prices or just under half of all our exports. We are literally giving away America's wealth to the Oil producers of the world. What's Obama's stance on more Oil production? Dr. No! Relying on the fantasy of Solar Power and Wind is not a viable solution, these technologies currently cost up to ten times more than hydrocarbons (Oil & Gas), and while yes, they will become less expensive in the future, the goal seems to be to make hydrocarbons cost more, instead of getting alternatives to cost less. Which means we can expect even higher electric bills and gas prices.

What's Obama's stance on trade, more protectionists policies, even though we've had a net gain in Jobs from NAFTA and our other trade agreements, Obama instead chooses to pander to fears instead of facts, that somehow we're getting the short end of the stick. Yes, some people do lose jobs with some of these agreements, but for the most part, more new jobs are created than the ones that are lost. Free trade is one of the reasons the U.S. has some of the lowest levels of unemployment in the world. In the EU, they celebrate that their unemployment is "only 7.1%, here that would be a disaster!

Big Government Spender
Obama is all about investments, and his website is chock full of "We will invest in this and invest in that" so of course, where the heck is all this cash going to come from? The government budget is already almost 2.8 Trillion Dollars, a 13 fold increase since 1970, so how much more do we have to pay in taxes? There's only so much you can take away from the private sector before all the cash starts to disappear. Just like in the 70's when the top rate was 75%, people just won't bother to make the money, if they know they just have to hand it all over to Uncle Sam. That will leave me and you with the bill.

Bob Barr:
14barr.600.jpg

Sure Bob Barr the Libertarian candidate is running for president, but they've got the whole thing ass backwards. When the Republicans wanted to take on the Democrats and the Wigs back in the 1800's, they didn't say "Hey, we're going to run Abe Lincoln here for prez. No, they built up a solid grassroots support network, got support from others who wanted to end slavery and give non-landowners the right to vote, along with support for land for the Poor programs. One they had their platform in place, they got congressmen elected, took over a good deal of seats in the house, and then, only then did they field their presidential candidate. The rest is history, the Wigs ended up joining the Republicans and ceased to be a party. However, the Libertarians seem to want change from the top down, instead of from the bottom up.

It doesn't matter that I support almost every issue that the Libertarians have, even if Bob Barr were to win the election, no one in congress or the senate will work with him, so what's the point. He'll have zero political capital to spend and won't get anything done.

So that's it folks, that's our choices:
Which candidate will do his best to destroy America and ruin the foundations on which she was built upon? Do we take:
Dumb or Dumber
Linkage:
What a load of shit.
 
Socialism will NOT destroy America, idiot. It will IMPROVE America!

Trump is the one who will wreck this country. We should all pray that the bastard dies soon!
Socialism and communism have never promoted freedom and prosperity in any nation in history.
 
Socialism and communism have never promoted freedom and prosperity in any nation in history.
That's correct but there is none in USA and never has been. You just pushing the , I hate democrats, line.
But the irony is 50 years USA wouldn't recognise China as anything. Now they are one of the biggest superpowers. And done under communism.
There are more billionaires per head in china than anywhere else but communism didn't promote freedom or prosperity???
Really?
 
That's correct but there is none in USA and never has been. You just pushing the , I hate democrats, line.
But the irony is 50 years USA wouldn't recognise China as anything. Now they are one of the biggest superpowers. And done under communism.
There are more billionaires per head in china than anywhere else but communism didn't promote freedom or prosperity???
Really?
What do you think of this quote from Alexander Trachtenberg, from the National Convention of Communist Parties in 1944? : r/VaushV (reddit.com)

What do you think of this quote from Alexander Trachtenberg, from the National Convention of Communist Parties in 1944?

"When we get ready to take the United States, we will not take it under the label of Communism; we will not take it under the label of Socialism. These labels are unpleasant to the American people, and have been speared too much. We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under “Liberalism,” under “Progressivism,” under “Democracy.” But take it we will."

~ Alexander Trachtenberg, at the National Convention of Communist Parties, Madison Square Garden, 1944
 
What do you think of this quote from Alexander Trachtenberg, from the National Convention of Communist Parties in 1944? : r/VaushV (reddit.com)

What do you think of this quote from Alexander Trachtenberg, from the National Convention of Communist Parties in 1944?
At the height of the war propaganda. That's relevant to today like an Astor tv.
"When we get ready to take the United States, we will not take it under the label of Communism; we will not take it under the label of Socialism. These labels are unpleasant to the American people, and have been speared too much. We will take the United States under labels we have made very lovable; we will take it under “Liberalism,” under “Progressivism,” under “Democracy.” But take it we will."

~ Alexander Trachtenberg, at the National Convention of Communist Parties, Madison Square Garden, 1944
But nothing happened. You're belching anti Democrat propaganda. You are a complete ratbag mark.
Every day you post shit that's completely irrelevant all because Trump got beaten.
You've set aside you Christianity and replaced it with bitterness and hate and under the delusion it was stolen from him.
You're flogging a dead horse son. Give it up before it worries you to death.
 
At the height of the war propaganda. That's relevant to today like an Astor tv.

But nothing happened. You're belching anti Democrat propaganda. You are a complete ratbag mark.
Every day you post shit that's completely irrelevant all because Trump got beaten.
You've set aside you Christianity and replaced it with bitterness and hate and under the delusion it was stolen from him.
You're flogging a dead horse son. Give it up before it worries you to death.

25 Important Socialism Quotes For Your Political Studies | Kidadl 12-12-23

23. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

- Winston Churchill.

24. "Socialism is a plan of morally sanctioned theft. It is about dividing up what others have created. Consequently, socialist economies don’t work; they create poverty instead of wealth."

- David Horowitz.

25."Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English.'

- George Bernard Shaw
 
25 Important Socialism Quotes For Your Political Studies | Kidadl 12-12-23

23. "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

- Winston Churchill.

24. "Socialism is a plan of morally sanctioned theft. It is about dividing up what others have created. Consequently, socialist economies don’t work; they create poverty instead of wealth."

- David Horowitz.

25."Socialism is the same as Communism, only better English.'

- George Bernard Shaw
I don't disagree with that. How does that apply to Biden's govt?
He hasn't instituted one policy that could be related to any socialism.
 
I don't disagree with that. How does that apply to Biden's govt?
He hasn't instituted one policy that could be related to any socialism.


Joe Biden's Systemic Socialism | Opinion (newsweek.com) 5-14-21


Joe Biden's Systemic Socialism | Opinion

Published May 14, 2021 at 12:00 PM EDT

By Rick Scott

Republican senator, Florida

Over his first 100 days, Joe Biden embarked on a mission to fundamentally change America. He discarded the carefully cultivated image of a moderate dealmaker that he campaigned on and embodied for most of his 50-year career in politics, and embraced a newfound persona as the next FDR.

He's received plaudits from socialist Bernie Sanders, "squad" member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator Elizabeth Warren, who recently said that we're so close to enacting the socialist agenda she's long advocated for that she can "taste it."

Unfortunately for the American people, Biden's "new New Deal" is taking our country down a path all too familiar to those who study history. While Democrats talk incessantly about supposed "systemic racism" lurking around every corner, the real enemy we face is the systemic socialism that Joe Biden and his Democratic allies on Capitol Hill and in state capitols around the country are foisting upon us.

Joe Biden has proposed more than $6 trillion in new spending this year alone, funded by trillions of dollars in new taxes and trillions added to the national debt. It's redistribution of wealth, pure and simple. His plan is to create a system in which some Americans are forced to surrender half of their income to the government, where taxes are levied not simply on income, but also on investments, transactions, capital gains and of course death.

Democrats want to punish success, taking more money from high earners and—don't fool yourself—middle class families, as well as large and small businesses, to fund a massive expansion of the welfare state, making more and more Americans dependent on government assistance in various forms. Oh, and their favorite special interests get a cut, too. Federal bureaucracies, liberal politicians, Silicon Valley, big unions—they're all benefiting from the Democrats' largesse.
 
Joe Biden's Systemic Socialism | Opinion (newsweek.com) 5-14-21


Joe Biden's Systemic Socialism | Opinion

Published May 14, 2021 at 12:00 PM EDT


By Rick Scott

Republican senator, Florida

Over his first 100 days, Joe Biden embarked on a mission to fundamentally change America. He discarded the carefully cultivated image of a moderate dealmaker that he campaigned on and embodied for most of his 50-year career in politics, and embraced a newfound persona as the next FDR.

He's received plaudits from socialist Bernie Sanders, "squad" member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator Elizabeth Warren, who recently said that we're so close to enacting the socialist agenda she's long advocated for that she can "taste it."

Unfortunately for the American people, Biden's "new New Deal" is taking our country down a path all too familiar to those who study history. While Democrats talk incessantly about supposed "systemic racism" lurking around every corner, the real enemy we face is the systemic socialism that Joe Biden and his Democratic allies on Capitol Hill and in state capitols around the country are foisting upon us.

Joe Biden has proposed more than $6 trillion in new spending this year alone, funded by trillions of dollars in new taxes and trillions added to the national debt. It's redistribution of wealth, pure and simple. His plan is to create a system in which some Americans are forced to surrender half of their income to the government, where taxes are levied not simply on income, but also on investments, transactions, capital gains and of course death.

Democrats want to punish success, taking more money from high earners and—don't fool yourself—middle class families, as well as large and small businesses, to fund a massive expansion of the welfare state, making more and more Americans dependent on government assistance in various forms. Oh, and their favorite special interests get a cut, too. Federal bureaucracies, liberal politicians, Silicon Valley, big unions—they're all benefiting from the Democrats' largesse.
Of course he would say that. He's a Methodist godbotherer from the mid west Bible belt.
Every republican refers to democrats as socialists. It means nothing. The irony is he was educated in a socialist funded school.
 
Not everyone agrees with good sense and right judgment. That is why we have the Democrat party.
The Democrat party is embedded to prevent the likes of your wealthy pseudo godbotherers ripping off workers.
It was your good sense and right judgement that democracy so tenderly gifted us Trump.
If that's your claim to fame, I'd stay quiet about your judgement and correctness.
 
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Of course he would say that. He's a Methodist godbotherer from the mid west Bible belt.
Every republican refers to democrats as socialists. It means nothing. The irony is he was educated in a socialist funded school.
Leftists invent the most illogical reasons for rejecting wisdom for foolishness.
 
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