socialism vs capitalism

[Gabriel_Bell]

 

[Boris Norris]

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How shocking.
We don't want any of that socialism.

 

[mark francis]

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Traditional American freedoms and values are worth having more than all the riches in the world.

 

[Boris Norris]

Traditional American freedoms and values are worth having more than all the riches in the world.

USA didn't discover freedoms or riches.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Traditional American freedoms and values are worth having more than all the riches in the world.

Slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination and poverty are "traditional American values".

 

[mark francis]

Slavery, Jim Crow, discrimination and poverty are "traditional American values".

Those may be Democrat values and results of socialist and atheist Democrat policies, but those degenerate results and values are not what made America great.

 

[mark francis]

USA didn't discover freedoms or riches.

The US became the greatest example of a nation of free people under the Christian influence that inspired the Constitution and early American values.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Those may be Democrat values and results of socialist and atheist Democrat policies, but those degenerate results and values are not what made America great.

Free labor of slaves for

 

[Boris Norris]

The US became the greatest example of a nation of free people under the Christian influence that inspired the Constitution and early American values.

Bullshyt. The founding fathers went to great lengths to deliberately keep religion out of the constitution. If you knew history you would know that.
Christianity had no input what was written into the constitution.
At the time, as you alluded to, was when slavery was rife. Is that the values you speak about?
Even slavery is approved by the Bible. Some values.

 

[mark francis]

Bullshyt. The founding fathers went to great lengths to deliberately keep religion out of the constitution. If you knew history you would know that.
Christianity had no input what was written into the constitution.
At the time, as you alluded to, was when slavery was rife. Is that the values you speak about?
Even slavery is approved by the Bible. Some values.

Slavery was not universally accepted in early America. There were more opponents of slavery than supporters but, like today's fact that there are more supporters of godly values in America than opponents, the ungodly left minority prevailed many times then as the minority ungodly left often prevails today.

 

[Boris Norris]

Slavery was not universally accepted in early America. There were more opponents of slavery than supporters but, like today's fact that there are more supporters of godly values in America than opponents, the ungodly left minority prevailed many times then as the minority ungodly left often prevails today.

That's not the case you lying old fart and here's proof you could have found before making a dickhead of yourself.

Bottom Line. On any given weekend, about three in 10 U.S. adults attend religious services, down from 42% two decades ago. Church attendance will likely continue to decline in the future, given younger Americans' weaker attachments to religion.25 Mar 2024

 

[mark francis]

That's not the case you lying old fart and here's proof you could have found before making a dickhead of yourself.

Anti-slavery sentiment in early America was far greater than modern leftist racists seem willing to admit.

The Founders of Maine’s Early Anti-Slavery Organizations – Maine Working-Class History

maineworkingclasshistory.com

On Aug. 16, 1834, Maine abolitionists put out the call to anti-slavery activists across the state to come to Augusta on the third Wednesday of October to “unite in fervent prayer to Almighty God to direct and bless our efforts to abolish slavery throughout the land.” During the nearly two years since William Lloyd Garrison’s historic visit to Maine, abolitionists had begun forming local anti-slavery societies, and they had finally garnered enough strength to launch a statewide chapter.

Bottom Line. On any given weekend, about three in 10 U.S. adults attend religious services, down from 42% two decades ago. Church attendance will likely continue to decline in the future, given younger Americans' weaker attachments to religion.25 Mar 2024

Christianity is comprised of all types, some saved, some lost, with all sorts of ideas. Church attendance is dropping among professing Christians even as evidence of false professions are rising. Atheists have theological views about God and the supernatural realm but they do not gather in groups in buildings designated as places of Secular Humanism 'worship.'

 

[Boris Norris]

Anti-slavery sentiment in early America was far greater than modern leftist racists seem willing to admit.

The Founders of Maine’s Early Anti-Slavery Organizations – Maine Working-Class History

maineworkingclasshistory.com

On Aug. 16, 1834, Maine abolitionists put out the call to anti-slavery activists across the state to come to Augusta on the third Wednesday of October to “unite in fervent prayer to Almighty God to direct and bless our efforts to abolish slavery throughout the land.” During the nearly two years since William Lloyd Garrison’s historic visit to Maine, abolitionists had begun forming local anti-slavery societies, and they had finally garnered enough strength to launch a statewide chapter.

Christianity is comprised of all types, some saved, some lost, with all sorts of ideas. Church attendance is dropping among professing Christians even as evidence of false professions are rising.

This is what you said above.

There were more opponents of slavery than supporters but, like today's fact that there are more supporters of godly values in America than opponents, the ungodly left minority prevailed many times then as the minority ungodly left often prevails today.

Now you are saying exactly the opposite. How's that for a lying old hypocrite.

Atheists have theological views about God

Yes, we do t believe the bullshyt you peddle to little kids.

and the supernatural realm but they do not gather in groups in buildings designated as places of Secular Humanism 'worship.'

Here we go. Now the supernatural get a mention. Next you'll be saying Satan lives next door.
You're barking mad.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Anti-slavery sentiment in early America was far greater than modern leftist racists seem willing to admit.

The Founders of Maine’s Early Anti-Slavery Organizations – Maine Working-Class History

maineworkingclasshistory.com

On Aug. 16, 1834, Maine abolitionists put out the call to anti-slavery activists across the state to come to Augusta on the third Wednesday of October to “unite in fervent prayer to Almighty God to direct and bless our efforts to abolish slavery throughout the land.” During the nearly two years since William Lloyd Garrison’s historic visit to Maine, abolitionists had begun forming local anti-slavery societies, and they had finally garnered enough strength to launch a statewide chapter.

Christianity is comprised of all types, some saved, some lost, with all sorts of ideas. Church attendance is dropping among professing Christians even as evidence of false professions are rising. Atheists have theological views about God and the supernatural realm but they do not gather in groups in buildings designated as places of Secular Humanism 'worship.'

Allow me to point out that if one does not believe that God exists, then prayer to said nonexistent God is silly. here is no reason for people to assemble and pray in unison to a nonexistent entity.

Just as there is no reason to wait in the Pumpkin field for the Great Pumpkin to arrive and give presents to the children who believe in him.