My thought for the day:

If there were universal background checks for all sales of weapons, then they wouldn't be able to buy a gun.

There are universal background checks for all gun sales except that of private sales and do you think legislating laws for private sales will in any way guaranteeing background checks for private sales.

That's not reality.

and the last school shooter was"known to police." What good did that do?

It did not do any good because the Broward County S.O. and ISD were taking federal moneys from B. Hussein and Eric Holder to NOT arrest these criminals.

See PROMISE Program.

Those children at Parkland are dead as a direct result of the racist policies of the previous regime.
 
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Propaganda is void of facts ....
Actually it isn't! but that's a different conversation which I would be happy to have with you.

Weapons and accessories are controlled in this Country.
well.....yes.....kindda.....short of being able to obtain under licence small low yield tactical nuclear weapons I agree with you...???

It serves as accurate comparison of money and influence over lawmakers.
Absolutely Sir! However, its not pertinent to this debate, other than to re-affirm the point that I was making that money talks... in whatever endevour lobbyists are trying to achieve.
 
Oh come on now.....you were all hot under the collar about propagander and then you sally forth with a full on trumpet chorus flag waving excersize in pre-packaged off the shelf oratorial tosh... Now, let's try that one again.
See PROMISE Program.

Forgive me for not wanting to waste my time on uninformed discussion.
 
Indeed what about it?
The previous administration was paying Counties and ISD's federal money to reduce their arrest statistics.

It was called the PROMISE Program.

Broward County included.

The Broward County Sheriffs Dept. had been to the shooters home 39 times, once for pointing a gun at his mother's head.

A felony assault with a deadly weapon.

The shooter was never arrested.

Fewer arrest meant more federal money for the County.

Had the shooter been arrested just one time, it could have prevented him from legally purchasing the weapon he used.

Those children at Parkland are dead because of Obama and Eric Holder's racist policies.

Not because of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and damn sure not because of the NRA.
 
Those children at Parkland are dead because of Obama and Eric Holder's racist policies.
That's all very interesting and Rush would agree with your summation but it has little to do with our overall discussion? As tragic as the Parkland shooting was it has little bearing on the myriad other shootings that take place yearly in your country and will continue to tqake place in your country. I know you are probably frustrated at certain schemes which you would assume "racist" or "liberal" or "pansy-assed" or whatever terminology is fed to you. The unfortunate truth is that violence is on the rise and attempting to break the cycle is surely the challenge. You've undoubtly heard Rush's and indeeed the lady from Fox giving their views on the subject however, they have an audience to feed and earn their money from that sector of society tuned into their thought processes. Its easy to knock something down, which through clever rhetoric and inventive use of facts, they are very astute at doing they are, however, not so good at enlightening their audiences as to the nuances of what is trying to be achieved...breaking the cycle of violence and recidivism within certain communities. Its exactly the same situation here.

Whilst you may not understand the overarching principles that those "do-gooders" are trying to achieve surely you must appreciate the issues within your society, and wish...hope...expect that future generations will not have to suffer the same levels and types of crime and vilolence? Your "who cares" point of view is not that of people who are sick of it. The grubby little oiks in schools are becoming aware that they may...just may have a say in doing something about it.

If your default position is that PROMISE is a racist policy of some fag muslim president then....well...so be it.

Forgive me for not wanting to waste my time on uninformed discussion.
ditto....
 
That's all very interesting and Rush would agree with your summation but it has little to do with our overall discussion? As tragic as the Parkland shooting was it has little bearing on the myriad other shootings that take place yearly in your country and will continue to tqake place in your country. I know you are probably frustrated at certain schemes which you would assume "racist" or "liberal" or "pansy-assed" or whatever terminology is fed to you. The unfortunate truth is that violence is on the rise and attempting to break the cycle is surely the challenge. You've undoubtly heard Rush's and indeeed the lady from Fox giving their views on the subject however, they have an audience to feed and earn their money from that sector of society tuned into their thought processes. Its easy to knock something down which they are very astute at doing they are bot so good at enlightening their audiences as to the nuances of what is trying to be achieved...breaking the cycle of violence and recidivism within certain communities. Its exactly the same situation here.

Whilst you may not understand the overarching principles that those "do-gooders" are trying to achieve surely you must appreciate the issues within your society, and wish...hope...expect that future generations will not have to suffer the same levels and types of craime and vilolence? Your "who cares" point of view is not that of people who are sick of it. The grubby little oiks in schools are becoming aware that they may...just may have a say in doing something about it.

If your default position is that PROMISE is a racist policy of some fag muslim president then....well...so be it.


ditto....
Rush ... liberal .... Fox News .... Pansy ass ... fag muslim .....

None of these terms are relevant or have been a part of this discussion.

You prove yourself be just another propaganda parrot.

When faced with facts, backed up with sources, you are only capable of parroting whatever the propagandist are bleating to the sheeple at the moment.

But, thanks for playing anyway ..... really.
 
you're welcome :) Its always interesting to hear the alternative view.

Oh come now we've dealt with that little issue.

Try and argue the point....convince me of your point of view....go for it!

I posted the direct reason WHY the shooter was able to purchase the firearm, despite the Sheriff's Dept. going to his home for disturbances some 39 times.

I linked to the Broward County PROMISE Program page.

I explained how fewer arrest meant more federal money for the County.

To which your response was to begin parroting propaganda terms put out by the marxist media.

That's not an "alternative view".

That's parroting propaganda.
 
There are universal background checks for all gun sales except that of private sales and do you think legislating laws for private sales will in any way guaranteeing background checks for private sales.

That's not reality.



It did not do any good because the Broward County S.O. and ISD were taking federal moneys from B. Hussein and Eric Holder to NOT arrest these criminals.

See PROMISE Program.

Those children at Parkland are dead as a direct result of the racist policies of the previous regime.

If there were a national registry of all firearms, then private sellers would think twice before selling to someone who can't pass a background check. Think accessory before the fact.

You can't support the rest of your post.
 
If there were a national registry of all firearms, then private sellers would think twice before selling to someone who can't pass a background check. Think accessory before the fact.

Right ....

Because we all know criminals are going to sign up with the national registry before buying, selling, or possessing a firearm.

This is delusional.

And, BTW ... there is already laws on the books against selling firearms to convicted felons, even by a private seller.

You can't support the rest of your post.

Already have in my previous post.
 
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