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Is a Human Zygote an Organism?

Discussion in 'House of Debates' started by fedor50, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. palerider

    palerider Well-Known Member

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    What gives you that notion? A woman has every legal right to defend herself if her life, is in fact in imminent danger. Who did you ever hear argue against the right of self defense. The operative term there is imminent danger...women can not, go about killing people who might cause her harm..

    I have an older brother who was miscarried who is buried and has a marker...and a death certificate. His date of birth and death are the same day even though he was probably dead before he was born.
     
  2. palerider

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    You have some strange notions which simply don't hold up when contrasted with reality. Such is often the case when the beliefs of zealots are closely examined. Who ever argued to "let" a woman die? That claim is nothing more than an exaggeration resulting from your overheated imagination. Do point me to any credible source that says that a doctor should "let" a woman die rather than saver her life if her child represents an imminent threat.



    So if according to you, if one expects a pseron to be held responsible for their actions, then one should be killed? Is that really your stance?

    You mean like Greta and her climate change blather?

    And alternatives to religion have always been controlled by upper class dictators. Socialism for example...

    That claim hardly stands up to logic...First off, my older bother who was miscarried is buried in our family plot. Second, how a body is disposed of has no bearing on what they were. Being a zealot, you can, and probably do run all manner of wild speculation through your mind...but like the ramblings of most zealots, yours simply do not stand when examined in the cold hard light of rationality.

    Historically, miscarried children who were identifiable as children were buried. My brother was certainly buried.

    Again, your zealotry has made this a religious issue for you...It isn't. It is a human rights issue. No one has the right to kill another human being for reasons that amount to little more than convenience.
     
  3. palerider

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    You keep going on and on about that point as if the method of disposal for a corpse were one of the factors that determined what the corpse was. I have buried dogs...does that make them people? I, myself will never be buried...does that mean that I am not a human being? How a body is disposed of has nothing to do with what it is..

    Your ramblings simply don't stand when viewed rationally.
     
  4. palerider

    palerider Well-Known Member

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    Like the great power hungry socialist tyrants who killed millions because they didn't want to sing in the choir? In addition to being a quasi religious zealot, you seem to be a jim dandy hypocrite as well. Any other character flaws you want to expose while you are on your rant?
     
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    A visit to the GYN office and routine paperwork asks and answers your question.

    1. How many pregnancies have you had?
    2. How many live births have you had?

    That knit wit politician recently stated and then apologized for saying a miscarriage was nothing more than a “mess on a napkin.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pe...early-miscarriages-just-some-mess-on-a-napkin
     
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