Who stirred American hostility toward Chinese Americans -- Trump or Biden?

[mark francis]

Well, no one can deny that the China was clearly a Third World country in 975 and today it is at least second world, with thousands of millionaires. And the Chinese are hardly all slaves. I have a Taiwanese friend whose wife is from the Tsing Tao, on the Mainland, and her parents, neither of whom is a Communist Party member, retired at age 50 with a two bedroom apartment in the city and enough money to fly to the US every year or so. They receive a pension large enough to live a middle class lifestyle.

The leadership of China should be commended for their accomplishments. The People's Republic is more prosperous than Cuba, Myanmar, Lebanon or Moldova. Consider this: in a country of 1.3 billion people, there is no system of government in which the people can possibly have a close relationship with the national leadership. China used to have famines and many people could not afford shoes. Now they have bicycles even in the poorest villages in the interior, and mopeds and cars in the cities.

Real labor unions are impossible in China, the Muslim minority is oppressed and exploited and the press is not free. But there is prosperity for many people and there is less hunger there than in parts of the US.

What causes inequality in China is the same thing that causes it here in the US: capitalism. Capitalism creates inequality unless it is carefully controlled and managed. Chinese culture is vastly different than US culture: the people have a tradition of collective action that goes back centuries.

You seem poorly informed about China.

China is a godless slave state ruled by godless oligarchs, worse than the Southern Democrat slave owners in US history.

 

[Phoenix68]

China is a godless slave state ruled by godless oligarchs.....

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....And, Spanky is all-too-anxious to be considered, for membership, in their lil' club; Worldwide Autocracy
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[Gabriel_Bell]

China is a godless slave state ruled by godless oligarchs, worse than the Southern Democrat slave owners in US history.

The Chinese government does not allow people to be bought and sold. You know zilch about China or the Southern slave states.

 

[mark francis]

The Chinese government does not allow people to be bought and sold. You know zilch about China or the Southern slave states.

Perhaps the CCP does not buy their slaves and does not sell them either?

Ethnic minorities' forced labour is evident in China's Xinjiang region, top UN slavery expert says

A United Nations' Special Rapporteur says it is "reasonable to conclude" that forced labour is taking place among Uyghur, Kazakh and other ethnic minorities in Xinjiang's agriculture and manufacturing sectors.

www.abc.net.au

It is "reasonable to conclude" that forced labour of members of minority groups has taken place in China's western Xinjiang region, the UN's top expert on slavery said in a report released this week.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Perhaps the CCP does not buy their slaves and does not sell them either?

Ethnic minorities' forced labour is evident in China's Xinjiang region, top UN slavery expert says

A United Nations' Special Rapporteur says it is "reasonable to conclude" that forced labour is taking place among Uyghur, Kazakh and other ethnic minorities in Xinjiang's agriculture and manufacturing sectors.

www.abc.net.au

It is "reasonable to conclude" that forced labour of members of minority groups has taken place in China's western Xinjiang region, the UN's top expert on slavery said in a report released this week.

"Labour", lookit you, using British spelling to plagiarize. Slavery is illegal in China, and the Chinese government wants to force the Muslims to adopt "Communism with Chinese characteristics", which runs counter to the requirements of Islam, so the Uyghurs are bing supressed horribly. I certainly do not defend the Chinese government.

But Chinese oppression is certainly not worse than slavery in the US before the Civil War. There are no naked children beng torn from their mothers and placed on the auction block. Get serious. You know so very, very little.

 

[mark francis]

"Labour", lookit you, using British spelling to plagiarize. Slavery is illegal in China, and the Chinese government wants to force the Muslims to adopt "Communism with Chinese characteristics", which runs counter to the requirements of Islam, so the Uyghurs are bing supressed horribly. I certainly do not defend the Chinese government.

But Chinese oppression is certainly not worse than slavery in the US before the Civil War. There are no naked children beng torn from their mothers and placed on the auction block. Get serious. You know so very, very little.

I'm sure. Slavery, fascist oppression, political persecution and imprisonment, human rights abuses and more are illegal in China, according to the fascist dictators and their bootlicking supporters.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

China is a godless slave state ruled by godless oligarchs, worse than the Southern Democrat slave owners in US history.

What an idiotic comment! And China has NEVER had anything that could be called a democratic government. Most of the Chinese people are fine with the government so long as it continues to cause the economy to grow. Christianity has rarely been attractive to the people of China.
There was the Taiping rebellion against the Manchu Dynasty in the 1850's, largely among Hakka (not Mandaran) speakers. The leader was a guy who said he was Jesus' brother. Odds are he wasn't.

Taiping Rebellion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since that, Christianity has never really caught on in China. It has become a big deal in S. Korea, though.

 

[mark francis]

What an idiotic comment! And China has NEVER had anything that could be called a democratic government. Most of the Chinese people are fine with the government so long as it continues to cause the economy to grow. Christianity has rarely been attractive to the people of China.
There was the Taiping rebellion against the Manchu Dynasty in the 1850's, largely among Hakka (not Mandaran) speakers. The leader was a guy who said he was Jesus' brother. Odds are he wasn't.

Taiping Rebellion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Since that, Christianity has never really caught on in China. It has become a big deal in S. Korea, though.

There are more Christians in China than you are aware of.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

There are more Christians in China than you are aware of.

How many Chinese Christians am I aware of? How could you possibly know how that?

China is very far from being a Christian country. The Chinese find it difficult to comprehend that one cannot follow more than one religion. Buddhists are not opposed to Taoism, for example.

 

[pjmret]

What percentage of China is Christian?

13–16% of the population are Buddhists, 10% are Taoists; 2.53% are Christians, and 0.83% are Muslims

2.5 percent. Negligible

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

China is a godless slave state ruled by godless oligarchs,

If there is a god, then no one is "godless".
Not believing in God does not make one "godless".

If there is no god, then we are all "godless".

The Universe is either godless, or it is not, along with all that inhabit it.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

What percentage of China is Christian?

13–16% of the population are Buddhists, 10% are Taoists; 2.53% are Christians, and 0.83% are Muslims

2.5 percent. Negligible

32,500,000 is 2.5% of 1.3 billion. The approximate population of Mozambique or Nepal.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Trump was the one who referred to Covid as the "China Virus" and the "Kung Flu"

 

[mark francis]

Trump was the one who referred to Covid as the "China Virus" and the "Kung Flu"

Exactly. Covid was developed in China with help from lefties like Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci.

 

[the annoying thing]

Exactly. Covid was developed in China with help from lefties like Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci.

from what I gather they were possibly trying to weaponize it . and it got out. Naturally they deny it because of germ ware fare agreements.