OK Spicoli, I'll start using small words so that you can follow along. If a "right" can be taken away from you without specific adjudication from a court of law, it's NOT A RIGHT, it's a PRIVILEGE. The 14th Amendment specifically says that the State CAN deny your "right" to vote for President, VP, etc., with the only penalty being that they cannot count you toward representation in Congress.
that is your interpretation.
The fact that you have begun to use personal insults proves you have no more valid arguments.
As I said, California may have been the first. I said that for a couple of very specific reasons; 1) I don't know, and 2) I don't really care because it simply doesn't matter, and is not germane to the discussion as I have already shown that your entire premise was flawed.
It is germane in that, if Missouri or if California were the first, then there weren't any before that. That's what first usually means.
OK, I'm sorry for having to do this, let's try it this way; ASSH*LE, PAY ATTENTION!! Women have been able to own their own property here since at least 1680, and I already gave you two States in which this was the case. I was also VERY careful to specify that each State had their own laws on who could and could not, so your assertions are still BULLSH*T!! What you are talking about is having a CODIFIED LAW as part of a States Code whereby women could not be denied the ability to own property, but that is NOT the same as saying that women could or could not own property by CUSTOM, which was the case in much of Colonial America.
I see you have descended yet again into personal insult and shouting. See my answer above.
You and top gun went to the same school didn't you? The words "all men are created equal" comes from the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, which was written by THOMAS JEFFERSON! They are NOT contained anywhere in the Constitution. Oh, and one other thing you might want to bear in mind is the fact that the Declaration of Independence, in the scheme of things, really doesn't mean anything as far as the laws and customs of America, that's what the CONSTITUTION is for.
The words you quoted were from the Constitution.
The words "All men are created equal" is from the Declaration of Independence.
Your point? And what's with the shouting yet again, have you no further valid arguments?
Again incorrect. You stated that women had NEVER been allowed to own property, and you did not qualify that statement by saying "in America". You made an incorrect statement.
Which, of course, you said earlier was playing word games.
I'm sorry you missed the post, but the issue came up earlier and I pointed out that I'm Native American.
Yes, I missed that.
I must say, I'm relieved to note you're not arguing for black slavery, or for the 18th. century idea that they aren't human.
Of course, there were some European explorers who wondered whether the natives were human, too.
Ah yes, the old "poverty" canard. Poverty has nothing to do with ones ability to apply themselves and achieve their goals. Some of the richest men in the history of our country were born into poverty that makes todays "poverty" look like Beacon Hill by comparison.
Sure. And Bush, for example, would still have attended Harvard Business School and then become president had he been born in Appalachia to a coal mining family. His cocaine use would never have resulted in prison, either. Everyone has the same opportunities, regardless of the circumstances of their birth.
(That, in case you're wondering, was sarcasm. I thought it was funny. Did you?)
Again, you're painting with a VERY broad brush, which is NOT accurate. SOME of the FF's felt that way, SOME partially felt that way, and SOME didn't feel that way at all, so your statement is still false. Jefferson himself, you know, the guy who wrote those words, was all about "all men are created equal" including Blacks, Native Americans, AND women, but there were too many others who didn't share his views that prevented it from being achieved in 1788 when the Constitution was finally ratified.
How is it, then, that the man who penned those words kept black slaves himself?
And the point that I've been trying VERY hard to get you to comprehend is that the declaration "all men are created equal" was written by a man who did in fact mean it to include all mankind. The fact that it didn't work out that way by the time of the ratification does not alter the fact that that is EXACTLY what he meant when he wrote them.
Were these 187 human beings also included in that statement?
Very true, so get down to your local gun store and buy yourself an M-16, some magazines, a few thousand rounds of ammo, and start practicing!!! I'll be expecting a range report by Monday.
As I said before, I don't choose to spend my money that way. If that's what you want to do, go for it.
I'm saving up for some of those SAMs you said I could have.