TrooperGate Heats Up

[PLC1]

I know Ed Shultz was up in Alaska doing his show and the people up there seem to dislike a lot about Palin. In fact the tax on the Oil Companies for the kick back checks to the residents is about the only good thing they said about her.

And this Troopergate thing is huge up there.

Plus Palin's good buddy Senator Stevens has his jury picked... won't be long till he's toast!

Shultz had a head count done at the rallies for and against Palin. The Palin side said 2000 at hers... Shultz had people there that counted 400 and something, almost 500, and that included the Wasilla High School Band.

The almost 2000 was actually at the anti-Palin rally!

And yet, her approval rating is far higher than that of Pres. Bush, or the House of Representatives, or the Senate. How can that be explained?

 

[Bunz]

Wow you did a great job of making Todd Palin sound like a Chicago thug. Man, they should arrest him. Keep the streets safe and make it look good for L. Obama all in the same act.

I never implied he was a thug. You and I both know that.

You keep saying 4 democrats and 8 republicans, but you don’t mention that many republicans are really pist off at her for going against other republicans. Many republicans still aren’t over it. Having an R behind your name doesn’t mean they are your friend.

LOL... except for a few badly outvoted legislators, the GOP wounds from 2006 were largely healed in the State, until AGIA was approved. During this time, I was actually fairly supportive of Sarah. But her nomination at the same time as some serious questions were being raised about Troopergate, and then the proverbial atomic bomb went off in Alaska when she was nominated.
In the month leading up to her nomination, since the news broke about Wooten, when she was being cooperative, this whole thing would have gone away quietly, but her entire tune has changed since she has been nominated.

Just have Todd Palin arrested for Chicago thug style behavior and that should help out the Obama ticket. You don’t want to have Sarah arrested because someone might look
Sympathetically towards her, best way to crush her and her family is arresting Todd Palin.

Wait a minute here, I never implied such a thing. I think it is a shame that any candidates kids or spouses become involved in big time politics either party. I have read some of your particularly nasty posts about Michelle Obama. Where does one draw the line?

OH OH OH set the daughter up with crack and then do a huge news story that Sarah Palin's daughter is doing smack while pregnant and she learned it from her mother. Oh that could do it.

Give this sort of stuff a rest please.

Obama might win Alaska after all

There was a time when the Democrats might have made a sweep in Alaska. But Sarah is still fairly poppular and has ensured an McCain victory here. But Senator Stevens is in deep trouble. His trial started today. It is being overshadowed for now with Saracudda, but he is not only likely to lose his seat, but also be convicted of charges that unless he gets a pardon of some sort will spend the rest of his life in jail. As an Alaskan who has until this year supported him with great pride, this is truly heartbreaking.
I think the Don Young race is to close to judge. At this point I am undecided on the Congresssional race here.

 

[Bunz]

Bunz, support that statement, or retract it. Provide PROOF that there is ANY attempt, on anyones part, to prevent the truth from coming out.

I should have somehow added that the emphasis was mine. I was implying that because concerning the announcement of the news nobody would be participating it came from a McCain campaign spokesperson. But also that her entire demeanor changed since she was nominated. She went from personally saying, "hold me accountable" before the nomination. To having someone else say that nobody involved would participate in a Legislative subpeana afterwards. In my opinion, the Sarah Palin that is Governor of Alaska, and the person running for Vice President, are two different creatures.

 

[Bunz]

LINK??? You say that he's "the Alaska equivalent of Rush Limbaugh", but he sounds more like *****.Org or The HuffingBiotch Post.

What's the matter Bunz? You taking your lead from Poopeye and slopgumz?

I see your edit, I will address that there, but there is no need to try and taunt me and associate me with what I assume are very childish interpretations of the names of other posters. I remember you taking quite an issue when you were called a dirt farmer, there is no reason to bother with this stuff.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it, and your boy Fagan is solidly in the pocket of the Oil Companies[/quote]
My Boy? Now this is funny. He no longer takes my calls! I have disagreed with Dan Fagan just about since I ever heard of him, but I pointed out him saying what he said, because we are generally opposite but agree that not only does Alaskans want answers, but Americans deserve them.

I guess everyone forgot about Clinton firing EVERY ONE of the 93 US District Attorneys.

Go ahead and attack someone who has very little to do with this. Read some of my Hillary posts and you will know I am no Clinton apologist. I am here to talk about the current VP nominee for the Republican party.

 

[Pandora]

I never implied he was a thug. You and I both know that. .

Roll your eyes all you want, I sure took it that way. I do not have the quote in front of me but something to the effect of she sent him out to do her dirty work, and you implied that he had some part in dirty dealings in the “Palin scandles” That is what you send your thugs out for.

LOL... except for a few badly outvoted legislators, the GOP wounds from 2006 were largely healed in the State, until AGIA was approved. During this time, I was actually fairly supportive of Sarah. But her nomination at the same time as some serious questions were being raised about Troopergate, and then the proverbial atomic bomb went off in Alaska when she was nominated.
In the month leading up to her nomination, since the news broke about Wooten, when she was being cooperative, this whole thing would have gone away quietly, but her entire tune has changed since she has been nominated. .

That seems fair enough. I don’t take issue with.

Wait a minute here, I never implied such a thing. I think it is a shame that any candidates kids or spouses become involved in big time politics either party. I have read some of your particularly nasty posts about Michelle Obama. Where does one draw the line? .

I did not say you personally implied it. It is happening and no one who is mesmerized by The One seems to care and many who are mesmerized by him are joining in. I never said you were doing it. Just that it is being done and no Obama worshipers are speaking up about it. And yep I have said things about Michelle Obama. SHE IS CAMPAIGNING FOR HER HUSBAND. She IS putting herself out there stumping for him, saying things like America is a down right mean country in 2008, and we have to give up some of our pie because someone else doesn’t have pie = Socialism, other things like for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country. YES if someone IS campaigning they should be scrutinized. On a personal level I don’t like her but I can not like her plenty in print just talking about what she is saying on the stump. The moment Todd Palin starts stumping for his wife, what he says can also be scrutinized. Though I don’t think anything he says on the stump should justify SNL doing a child molesting skit on him molesting his daughters. But hey I am just an unreasonable conservative, I should be able to take a joke right. Were SNL or anyone to do a skit of Obama molesting his daughters heads would roll. And all of the obama worshipers would be up in arms, just like if any son of a republican hacked his email, heads would roll.

There was a time when the Democrats might have made a sweep in Alaska. But Sarah is still fairly poppular and has ensured an McCain victory here. But Senator Stevens is in deep trouble. His trial started today. It is being overshadowed for now with Saracudda, but he is not only likely to lose his seat, but also be convicted of charges that unless he gets a pardon of some sort will spend the rest of his life in jail. As an Alaskan who has until this year supported him with great pride, this is truly heartbreaking.
I think the Don Young race is to close to judge. At this point I am undecided on the Congresssional race here.

I don’t know much about the rest of Alaska government, I am having enough trouble trying to figure out what Senator in Oregon I will vote for.

 

[Federal Farmer]

I should have somehow added that the emphasis was mine. I was implying that because concerning the announcement of the news nobody would be participating it came from a McCain campaign spokesperson. But also that her entire demeanor changed since she was nominated. She went from personally saying, "hold me accountable" before the nomination. To having someone else say that nobody involved would participate in a Legislative subpeana afterwards. In my opinion, the Sarah Palin that is Governor of Alaska, and the person running for Vice President, are two different creatures.

Then you severely misunderstand the nature of national politics. She invited them to investigate MONTHS ago, and nobody was interested UNTIL she was nominated to be the VP. Now all of a suddent a$$sholes from all over the country are trying to put their $.02 into the discussion, usually sounding like Poopeye, and not having the first clue what it is that they're talking about.

She IS the Governor, she has the RIGHT to fire anyone she wants to for any reason, or no reason, and there isn't a damned thing that anyone can do about it, at least until the next election.

Now, support your allegation, or retract it.

 

[Federal Farmer]

I see your edit, I will address that there, but there is no need to try and taunt me and associate me with what I assume are very childish interpretations of the names of other posters. I remember you taking quite an issue when you were called a dirt farmer, there is no reason to bother with this stuff.

Whaaa. They're the ones that started that game, and now you're going to ONCE AGAIN come to their defense, when you haven't had anything to say to them about their BS. Tell it to Jesus, the Chaplin's on leave, and you have NO credibility with me when it comes to anything like that.

EDIT: Never mind, I found it, and your boy Fagan is solidly in the pocket of the Oil Companies

My Boy? Now this is funny. He no longer takes my calls! I have disagreed with Dan Fagan just about since I ever heard of him, but I pointed out him saying what he said, because we are generally opposite but agree that not only does Alaskans want answers, but Americans deserve them.

He's an Alaskan, YOU cited him, he's YOURS. Also, as I clearly stated before, he's clearly in the pocket of the oil companies, and he's obviously not happy that Palin is holding their feet to the fire instead of handing out "sweetheart deals" like Murkowski did, so his credibility is right up there with *****.org, and the Huffingb!tch Post.

Go ahead and attack someone who has very little to do with this. Read some of my Hillary posts and you will know I am no Clinton apologist. I am here to talk about the current VP nominee for the Republican party.

Not even close Bunz. Clinton DID fire every one of the 93 US District Attorneys, without notice, or reason, and NOBODY had anything to say about it since it falls under the auspices of EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY. Palin fires this one nimnod because she feels that he's not a "team player", and all of a sudden executive authrority doesn't mean executive authority any more? NIGGA PLEASE!!! Can't we have at least ONE "standard" that applies ALL the time, or is it always going to be this silly assed "one standard for Republicans" and "NO standards for Dim-O-Craps"?

 

[Bunz]

Roll your eyes all you want, I sure took it that way. I do not have the quote in front of me but something to the effect of she sent him out to do her dirty work, and you implied that he had some part in dirty dealings in the “Palin scandles” That is what you send your thugs out for.

Well you need not to have taken it that way. I would never call him a thug. Those are your words not mine. It is no secret he has his hands all over this issue and there might be others. That is why there was an investigation. To find out the truth.

I did not say you personally implied it. It is happening and no one who is mesmerized by The One seems to care and many who are mesmerized by him are joining in. I never said you were doing it. Just that it is being done and no Obama worshipers are speaking up about it. And yep I have said things about Michelle Obama. SHE IS CAMPAIGNING FOR HER HUSBAND. She IS putting herself out there stumping for him, saying things like America is a down right mean country in 2008, and we have to give up some of our pie because someone else doesn’t have pie = Socialism, other things like for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country. YES if someone IS campaigning they should be scrutinized. On a personal level I don’t like her but I can not like her plenty in print just talking about what she is saying on the stump.

Sounds to me like it is alright for one side to take issue with a candidates spouse, but not OK for the other in your eyes.

The moment Todd Palin starts stumping for his wife, what he says can also be scrutinized. Though I don’t think anything he says on the stump should justify SNL doing a child molesting skit on him molesting his daughters. But hey I am just an unreasonable conservative, I should be able to take a joke right. Were SNL or anyone to do a skit of Obama molesting his daughters heads would roll. And all of the obama worshipers would be up in arms, just like if any son of a republican hacked his email, heads would roll.

I thought the SNL skit about Todd was over the line. But the right doesnt take much issue when it is the democrats being mocked on SNL or anywhere else really. When you make yourself and your family into overnight public figures such as Sarah did, that changes the dynamics. Its a shame the whole game has turned into this on both sides. Id like to hear Sarah's views on a bunch of subjects but all she has done for the last month is repeat the same garbage.

 

[Bunz]

Then you severely misunderstand the nature of national politics. She invited them to investigate MONTHS ago, and nobody was interested UNTIL she was nominated to be the VP.

You have zero clue about the issue inside of Alaska. There was great interest in this, it was Sarah and her McCain controllers who have grown this into something much bigger than it needed to be because of her backpeddaling on the issue.

Now all of a suddent a$$sholes from all over the country are trying to put their $.02 into the discussion, usually sounding like Poopeye, and not having the first clue what it is that they're talking about.

Yeah kinda like you.

She IS the Governor, she has the RIGHT to fire anyone she wants to for any reason, or no reason, and there isn't a damned thing that anyone can do about it, at least until the next election.

If she abused her power past her executive authority, then no she doesnt have the right to do that. That is why there is an investigation. To find out if that was the case. She has balked, it is on her, nobody else.

 

[Bunz]

FedFarm, you really need to grow up. Your overall immaturity takes away greatly from the credibility of any rational argument you make.

Whaaa. They're the ones that started that game, and now you're going to ONCE AGAIN come to their defense, when you haven't had anything to say to them about their BS. Tell it to Jesus, the Chaplin's on leave, and you have NO credibility with me when it comes to anything like that.

I have dealt with them, and continue to when necessary. Just as I deal with you all to often. Frankly I am tired of your middle school mentality, you are not debating with them, you are debating with me. They have been largely absent from this discussion.

He's an Alaskan, YOU cited him, he's YOURS. Also, as I clearly stated before, he's clearly in the pocket of the oil companies, and he's obviously not happy that Palin is holding their feet to the fire instead of handing out "sweetheart deals" like Murkowski did, so his credibility is right up there with *****.org, and the Huffingb!tch Post.

This entire post is moronic and your justification of anyone being mine is flat out stupid. Fagan is a hardline Republican, especially on national issues. I posted it to provide evidence that even hardliners want answers to what happened. This is the the national equivalent of Rush Limbaugh or Michael Savage saying that Bush and cabinet need to answer to the various subpeonas that were issued.

Not even close Bunz. Clinton DID fire every one of the 93 US District Attorneys, without notice, or reason, and NOBODY had anything to say about it since it falls under the auspices of EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY. Palin fires this one nimnod because she feels that he's not a "team player", and all of a sudden executive authrority doesn't mean executive authority any more? NIGGA PLEASE!!! Can't we have at least ONE "standard" that applies ALL the time, or is it always going to be this silly assed "one standard for Republicans" and "NO standards for Dim-O-Craps"?

This has to be the most sophomoric paragraph I have seen in a long time. Let me make it very clear to you Federal Farmer, and for anyone else who reads this that the underlined statement in this post is unacceptable and will result in bans. I hope someday you mature some, or deal with the deepseated mental issues you consistently demonstrate in your posts here.
Have a nice life, you are banned.

 

[Pandora]

Well you need not to have taken it that way. I would never call him a thug. Those are your words not mine. It is no secret he has his hands all over this issue and there might be others. That is why there was an investigation. To find out the truth.

Sounds to me like it is alright for one side to take issue with a candidates spouse, but not OK for the other in your eyes.

I thought the SNL skit about Todd was over the line. But the right doesnt take much issue when it is the democrats being mocked on SNL or anywhere else really. When you make yourself and your family into overnight public figures such as Sarah did, that changes the dynamics. Its a shame the whole game has turned into this on both sides. Id like to hear Sarah's views on a bunch of subjects but all she has done for the last month is repeat the same garbage.

OK what ever

its not worth trying to talk about it. I was at first excited about hearing your point of view. I thought of you as a fair minded person, not a party liner type.

I have learned all I need to know and since I dont want to go the way of FF I will be a good girl and give up.

 

[Bunz]

OK what ever

its not worth trying to talk about it. I was at first excited about hearing your point of view. I thought of you as a fair minded person, not a party liner type.

I have learned all I need to know and since I dont want to go the way of FF I will be a good girl and give up.

Hi Obamanation,
Firstly, I will say that your posts here are just fine, and your behavior has never been questionable around here. Nothing for you to worry about from me. I have enjoyed the various discussions with you. I look forward to more in the future. I do apologize if the discussion went downhill in the last few posts. It was not my intention for that to happen.

On a side note of news that broke yesterday and I was dealing with other things to even post it, but the McCain camp has apparently agreed to let Sarah face an internal investigation.
It appears though that the Legislative one will fall away as the side show it became since she was nominated. Apparently confidentiality is of the utmost in these investigations and that is fine to a point, as long as it is thorough and those that need to be held accountable are.

http://www.adn.com/front/story/535188.html