top reasons to vote democrat

[USMC the Almighty]

Id do it for Socialism~
Also I agree with Obama Nation
bombs will only lead to more destruction
destruction=death......

Sometimes war is the only answer. When you are dealing with people who only want you killed, even if they need to kill themselves, there is no level of negotiation that could be effective.

They have no interest in negotiating. They only want you 6 feet under. There is no negotiating with people like that.

 

[heyjude]

Maybe you should look at the record of the Clinton admin. We bombed Iraq
almost non-stop. I can't believe you missed that.
And what is wrong with a little socialism? Unbridled capatilism stinks. Most countries put constraints on capitalists.
We have unrestricted capitalism in this country and you can see what it is doing to us. The rich are getting richer and owning everything, and the number of the poor is growing by leaps every day.

 

[vyo476]

Maybe you should look at the record of the Clinton admin. We bombed Iraq
almost non-stop. I can't believe you missed that.
And what is wrong with a little socialism? Unbridled capatilism stinks. Most countries put constraints on capitalists.
We have unrestricted capitalism in this country and you can see what it is doing to us. The rich are getting richer and owning everything, and the number of the poor is growing by leaps every day.

We do not have "unbridled" capitalism (what economists refer to as "laissez-faire" capitalism) in this country. There are a number of antitrust and anti-monopoly laws in this country to regulate business that are used fairly often.

Unemployment is actually shrinking. One thing the Bush Administration has managed to do is create jobs. It isn't exactly easy to find a good job, but then again, if it was "easy" we'd be in a different kind of trouble.

As for socialism - generally I agree that a "little" socialistic thought is a good thing in government, although I would tend to think that your definition of a "little" and my definition of a "little" are probably pretty different.

 

[Lennonist]

Violence only begets violence

this idea that we can kill to have peace is completely absurd and leads to wars without cause such as this iraq war and vietnam

Let there be world peace and let it start with me

if everyone would stop accepting war as such an easy approach to dealing with conflict then the world would know peace

just give peace a chance


and as for the democratic party

they are almost as bad as the republicans but i would vote for them for the sole reason of not splitting the vote

the democrats show promise of being a progressive party

in particularly dennis kucinich

and as for socialism in america

definitely
its time there was some socialist fervor here in america

there are 35 million ppl living in poverty here in America

45 million live without healthcare

and as for the rich

the richest 10% own 80% of the wealth

talk about unbridled capitalism

 

[ArmChair General]

Violence only begets violence

this idea that we can kill to have peace is completely absurd and leads to wars without cause such as this iraq war and vietnam

Let there be world peace and let it start with me

if everyone would stop accepting war as such an easy approach to dealing with conflict then the world would know peace

just give peace a chance


and as for the democratic party

they are almost as bad as the republicans but i would vote for them for the sole reason of not splitting the vote

the democrats show promise of being a progressive party

in particularly dennis kucinich

and as for socialism in america

definitely
its time there was some socialist fervor here in america

there are 35 million ppl living in poverty here in America

45 million live without healthcare

and as for the rich

the richest 10% own 80% of the wealth

talk about unbridled capitalism

*yawn*...sounds boring...

 

[USMC the Almighty]

Violence only begets violence

this idea that we can kill to have peace is completely absurd and leads to wars without cause such as this iraq war and vietnam

When the enemy choses violence, you can't respond with peace. That will bury you. War has ended the threats of slavery, Communism, Nazism, Fascism to this country. Sometimes, peace is just ignoring the problem, whereas war is actually solving it.

Let there be world peace and let it start with me

Keep living in a dream world. Violence exists. Evil exists. It will always exist. Sometimes you just have to take up arms to combat it.

if everyone would stop accepting war as such an easy approach to dealing with conflict then the world would know peace

just give peace a chance

Peace has always had a chance. War is never the first option. It is almost always the last.

Sometimes peace just doesn't work. Let's go to my first example -- that of war ending slavery. The North and South brokered endless compromises trying to settle the slavery/nullification issue (Missouri Compromise, Compromise 1833, Comrpomise of 1850, Crittenden Compromise...). None of them worked.

It's the same in today's world. The UN can pass all the resolutions and sanctions it wants, but if it's not willing to use force to enforce them, then they are no good. Sometimes, war is the answer.

and as for socialism in america

definitely
its time there was some socialist fervor here in america

there are 35 million ppl living in poverty here in America

45 million live without healthcare

and as for the rich

the richest 10% own 80% of the wealth

talk about unbridled capitalism

Do you realize how antithetical socialism is to the Founding Principles of this country? The principles of liberty, self-responsibility, social mobility, hard work, and virtue would be absent in a socialist society. It is because of these pillars of America, that Socialism has never even been sniffed in this country.

You cry that 35 million people live in poverty today in America. Under Socialism, you would have some 300 million Americans in poverty.

 

[TheWaffle]

I am liberal.

To say that everyone would live in peace if we gave peace a chance is ignorant at best. USMC is right there will always be war and there will always be death. As long as there are things to control and as long as people have their differences there will be people who kill and people who die.

And neutrality may sound all nice and peachy 'Look at the Swiss.' But as a small relatively homogenous nation with few resources and little strategic value they can afford to be neutral.

And there are some enemies who cannot be met with peace. You can't stop ethnic cleansing with care packages. Some battles must be fought on the battlefield and others with words.

Could people please stop throwing around words like Socialism, and Dictatorship. Honestly the most annoying thing that I hear everyone say is "Communism, yea it works on paper, but not in reality." Ignorant liberals will say this in an attempt to sound smart.

The liberal ideal is not a society that puts a worthless drunk in college for free and pays for his food. The liberal ideal is a society where people are not denied the oppurtunities of others. As such it is meant to reward success and hard work. I believe in the government's responsibility to ensure life; through defense and making sure someone doesn't die because they can't afford medical attention. Liberty; where people are free to pursue what they will and where they are not denied the oppurtunities that are there for others. And the pursuit of happiness; through a open-minded social view where people can choose how to live their lives and are not told what to believe or how to act.

 

[Castle]

I am liberal.

To say that everyone would live in peace if we gave peace a chance is ignorant at best. USMC is right there will always be war and there will always be death. As long as there are things to control and as long as people have their differences there will be people who kill and people who die.

And neutrality may sound all nice and peachy 'Look at the Swiss.' But as a small relatively homogenous nation with few resources and little strategic value they can afford to be neutral.

And there are some enemies who cannot be met with peace. You can't stop ethnic cleansing with care packages. Some battles must be fought on the battlefield and others with words.

Could people please stop throwing around words like Socialism, and Dictatorship. Honestly the most annoying thing that I hear everyone say is "Communism, yea it works on paper, but not in reality." Ignorant liberals will say this in an attempt to sound smart.

The liberal ideal is not a society that puts a worthless drunk in college for free and pays for his food. The liberal ideal is a society where people are not denied the oppurtunities of others. As such it is meant to reward success and hard work. I believe in the government's responsibility to ensure life; through defense and making sure someone doesn't die because they can't afford medical attention. Liberty; where people are free to pursue what they will and where they are not denied the oppurtunities that are there for others. And the pursuit of happiness; through a open-minded social view where people can choose how to live their lives and are not told what to believe or how to act.

Wow! You are a liberal? Maybe 60 years ago I'd call you a liberal. Heck, 60 years ago I'd be a liberal. I expect you are not popular with other libs as you appear not to embrace the "peace at all cost" (and I mean ALL cost) attitude.

-Castle

 

[top gun]

The Democrats are worse than the Republicans, if that is even possible. I see no reason to vote for Democrats. We'll get more government, higher taxes, and higher unemployment. They'll do nothing for the environment, gay rights, or any other issue they pretend to believe in.

That's not true. Republican George Bush has grown government more than any other president. All the tax raising and unemployment we are about to experience can be directly attributed to all the monstrous war spending of American tax payers dollars... already over $500,000,000,000 (five hundred billion).

The Democrats will make positive changes. They will fund Social security & Medicare. They will bring our brave American soldiers home. They won this "war" on every aspect Congress approved it on... No WMD's (big Bush/Cheney lie)... Saddam Hussein is dead. The Democrats will declare VICTORY and not continue to play World Police in some Nation Building campaign in the middle of a Civil War. These are all great reasons to vote Democratic!

 

[USMC the Almighty]

Republican George Bush has grown government more than any other president.

How are you measuring this? It's not that I'm arguin with you but I'd like to see your method of measuring the growth of gov't from one president to the next. I would argue that presidents like Jackson, Polk, Lincoln, TR, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ all grew gov't more than Bush.

The Democrats will make positive changes. They will fund Social security & Medicare.

Ironic. You compain about the growing gov't and then come back and say that the Dems will fund SS and Medicare.

 

[Justinian]

Hey Folks

I don't believe there's any sane reason to vote for a democrat in this country today what so ever. You people are forgetting whom the Democratic party is. They're all minorities. They really should be called the minority party or the countercultural party or the against the grain party or the atheist coward socialist party. Take your pick but they're not an american party. They're more like a major virus in America. Real Americans would rather be dead than be a Democrat.

 

[vyo476]

I don't believe there's any sane reason to vote for a democrat in this country today what so ever. You people are forgetting whom the Democratic party is. They're all minorities. They really should be called the minority party or the countercultural party or the against the grain party or the atheist coward socialist party. Take your pick but they're not an american party. They're more like a major virus in America. Real Americans would rather be dead than be a Democrat.

Not all Democrats are minorities, but the overwhelming majority of minorities (sorry for the language) do follow the Democratic Party. They aren't Americans, too?

Just who are Americans, by your definition, Justinian?

 

[Justinian]

Uhuh

Not all Democrats are minorities, but the overwhelming majority of minorities (sorry for the language) do follow the Democratic Party. They aren't Americans, too?

Just who are Americans, by your definition, Justinian?

You figure it out. For someone on a political forum, I'm surprised how you seemingly lack historical knowledge of your native soil. I'll give you a hint in the form of a question. What was the original intended purpose of America?

 

[vyo476]

You figure it out. For someone on a political forum, I'm surprised how you seemingly lack historical knowledge of your native soil. I'll give you a hint in the form of a question. What was the original intended purpose of America?

Common defense in order to prevent foreign invasion and removal of rights.

Either answer the question or move on.

 

[top gun]

How are you measuring this? It's not that I'm arguin with you but I'd like to see your method of measuring the growth of gov't from one president to the next. I would argue that presidents like Jackson, Polk, Lincoln, TR, Wilson, FDR, and LBJ all grew gov't more than Bush.

Actually I was speaking of money spent on government but adjusted for inflation there could be multiple answers I suppose. However we can definitively say it has grown since Clinton.

Ironic. You compain about the growing gov't and then come back and say that the Dems will fund SS and Medicare.

Well sure. There are some things that are just good & absolutely necessary. These things should always be funded. A system that protects the elderly from poverty stricken old age... yes I'll always think that should have a priority. And least we forget the main reason the fund will be struggling so bad as the baby boomers hit retirement age is because it's been raided so many times over the years.

It's kinda like saying, "You know if I didn't eat I could save over $10,000 a year." That may be true... but you'd also die.