The death of Christ - no big deal

[Mr. Shaman]

Like I said earlier. Some you just can't take too seriously. This could have been a good topic and debate but some don't want to have an intelligent discussion which should be done on this subject.

Hell.....than, I suggest a Plan B!!! (The drag-'n-drop GQ-option!)​

 

[Dr.Who]

One good thing about threads like this is it lets the people who make a career out of denigrating other people's religions show just how ignorant they are of the facts.

Some day when one of them says how they can criticize Christianity because they have "researched" it, we can come back here and pull out a few quotes to demonstrate just how thorough their research really was.

 

[samsara15]

Is man inherently evil? Mankind is not good, that's for certain, but 'not good' is not the same as evil. People do bad things, yes, but that does not make most people evil.

So if that be the case, why do people need forgiveness, and why was the life and death of Christ necessary? Couldn't God have just done the forgiving without playing out the whole drama? What's the point in believing in Christ rather than God?

It all seems unnecessary.

 

[samsara15]

One good thing about threads like this is it lets the people who make a career out of denigrating other people's religions show just how ignorant they are of the facts.

Some day when one of them says how they can criticize Christianity because they have "researched" it, we can come back here and pull out a few quotes to demonstrate just how thorough their research really was.

Gnostics, Nestorians, Monophysites, Arians, and Coptics.

Mormons, Quakers, Unitarians, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Catholics.

Lollards, Albigensians, and a host of medieval 'heresies'.

Just to name a few, without doing any reseach at all. Did it ever occur to you that Christianity includes so many varieties of belief that almost no one knows a lot about all of them, or even very many of them?

 

[Dr.Who]

Gnostics, Nestorians, Monophysites, Arians, and Coptics.

Mormons, Quakers, Unitarians, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Catholics.

Lollards, Albigensians, and a host of medieval 'heresies'.

Just to name a few, without doing any reseach at all. Did it ever occur to you that Christianity includes so many varieties of belief that almost no one knows a lot about all of them, or even very many of them?

There really is little need to know anything at all about the cult of gnostics that no longer exist to understand Christianity in your culture today.

Knowing the basics and knowing it correctly about the most widespread religion in america is nothing more than simple cultural literacy.

 

[Dr.Who]

Is man inherently evil? Mankind is not good, that's for certain, but 'not good' is not the same as evil. People do bad things, yes, but that does not make most people evil.

So if that be the case, why do people need forgiveness, and why was the life and death of Christ necessary? Couldn't God have just done the forgiving without playing out the whole drama? What's the point in believing in Christ rather than God?

It all seems unnecessary.

Unlike a few others you are asking questions and implicity admitting that you do not understand the answers. this is the beginning of knowledge.

Forgiveness cannot take place without repentance. The way the "drama" played out is, imo, the way that results in the most repentance, perhaps for all. To second guess God would be arrogance; unless of course one could show that they have a better plan. Would forgiving all without repentance be a better plan?

 

[samsara15]

For questioning God to be considered arrogance, one must subscribe to that sort of belief about God. For those who have differing beliefs about God, or none, that is not arrogance. From some points of view, one can conceive of the existence of a God who would think it objectionable NOT to critically question any and all aspects of the universe. I did make an alternative suggestion, one of many possible, although clearly I did not expand on it sufficiently.