The Competing Plans to Destroy America

[mark francis]

The Democrat party is embedded to prevent the likes of your wealthy pseudo godbotherers ripping off workers.
It was your good sense and right judgement that democracy so tenderly gifted us Trump.
If that's your claim to fame, I'd stay quiet about your judgement and correctness.

The lazy and incompetent see socialism as if heaven sent for providing more income for less labor.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Socialism and communism have never promoted freedom and prosperity in any nation in history.

That is patently FALSE, "Communism with Chinese characteristics" has caused China to become the second richest country on this planet.

Does the US promote freedom and democracy? Is Granada more free and prosperous since the US destroyed its government? The US ruled the Philippines for decades, and is it prosperous and free?

 

[mark francis]

That is patently FALSE, "Communism with Chinese characteristics" has caused China to become the second richest country on this planet.

Does the US promote freedom and democracy? Is Granada more free and prosperous since the US destroyed its government? The US ruled the Philippines for decades, and is it prosperous and free?

I don't applaud nations like China for getting rich off the backs of slaves.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

The lazy and incompetent see socialism as if heaven sent for providing more income for less labor.

I don't applaud nations like China for getting rich off the backs of slaves.

Most Chinese workers are better paid now than they ever have been.
China punishes Muslims because Islam is a social structure that is incompatible with "Communism with Chinese characteristics". Uighurs are also physically distinct from Han Chinese.

In very much the same way that Islam is a social structure incompatible with US capitalism.
Islam is polygamous. Muslims cannot have more than one wife in the US.
Islam is opposed to lending money at interest. Lending money at interest is essential to capitalism.
Islam is in favor of an official state religion.
Islam favors older men marrying young girls. The intent and result is that this increases the total number of children.
Muslims are much better at multiplying their members than are Christians.

 

[mark francis]

Most Chinese workers are better paid now than they ever have been.

I don't excuse China's slavery on the basis of the fact that not all Chinese workers are slaves, even though all Chinese workers live in fear of the totalitarian regime that keeps them oppressed.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

I don't excuse China's slavery on the basis of the fact that not all Chinese workers are slaves, even though all Chinese workers live in fear of the totalitarian regime that keeps them oppressed.

No matter how you look at it, a Chinese person is only one in 1.4 billion.
I imagine that the average Chinese person is far more interested in staying healthy and having modern conveniences than in running the country.

Again, Chinese Communism is incompatible with Islam.
Just as polygamy, child brides and female circumcision are incompatible with your values.
I am not saying that China is perfect, no country is perfect. We have more people in prisons in the US than China enslaves, percentage wide.

 

[Boris Norris]

I don't applaud nations like China for getting rich off the backs of slaves.

You mean how slaves originally made USA what it is? You're memory is not so good..

 

[Boris Norris]

Leftists invent the most illogical reasons for rejecting wisdom for foolishness.

It's not illogical. It's a fact and you're a prime example of it. You have no legs to stand on if you think your opinion has given you wisdom.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Is to foolish to believe in magical forbidden fruit and talking snakes?

 

[mark francis]

You mean how slaves originally made USA what it is? You're memory is not so good..

God-honoring Christians never supported slavery in the US. Thousands of God-honoring Christians lost their lives in the Civil War attempting to free the slaves.

 

[mark francis]

Is to foolish to believe in magical forbidden fruit and talking snakes?

It is foolish to believe heaven and hell are myths that 'smart' humanists have disproven.

 

[Boris Norris]

God-honoring Christians never supported slavery in the US. Thousands of God-honoring Christians lost their lives in the Civil War attempting to free the slaves.

Exactly. But they weren't Christians. The irony is the Bible condoned slavery yet now you suggest the Christians tried to stop it. One of you is lying.

It was stopped simply because it was the right thing to do. So don't tell me big business made the country. Slavery and socialism started its path to prosperity.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

It is foolish to believe heaven and hell are myths that 'smart' humanists have disproven.

It is foolish to believe in talking snakes and magical fruit.

The Bible is not the exact word of God unless it is all true.
Talking snakes and demon-stuffed pigs as well.

 

[mark francis]

Exactly. But they weren't Christians. The irony is the Bible condoned slavery yet now you suggest the Christians tried to stop it. One of you is lying.

No. The Bible does not say Christians did not sacrifice themselves in the war to end slavery in the US.

 

[mark francis]

It is foolish to believe in talking snakes and magical fruit.

The Bible is not the exact word of God unless it is all true.
Talking snakes and demon-stuffed pigs as well.

If God is real, and nobody can prove He isn't, then miracles could easily have occurred just as the Bible records them. However, if God did not exist as humanists want to believe, then they are left with stupid beliefs in the assumed miracle of matter and energy being created from nothing by nothing.