Tax Revolt 2010

[Sihouette]

We could always respond with our own decision. If the government is now officially By the Corporations, For the Corporations and Of the Corporations, I'll be damned if I'm sending them my money to run the place.

If they can afford to now buy any of the [I was going to say "our", but, you know..] representatives, they can afford to fund the Treasury too. They cannot have it both ways. And the Teaparty people should be the first ones on board since we all know they're about shrinking government involvement in the private lives of the citizens. If they want it, let THEM pay for it.

 

[dogtowner]

Good luck with that.

 

[Sihouette]

What, you a self-proclaimed teabagger are in favor of paying taxes and having "our" government collect them from you?

Weird. One would almost think you had double standards..
I've noticed that in some bloggers actually and it's the darndest thing?

 

[BigRob]

We could always respond with our own decision. If the government is now officially By the Corporations, For the Corporations and Of the Corporations, I'll be damned if I'm sending them my money to run the place.

If they can afford to now buy any of the [I was going to say "our", but, you know..] representatives, they can afford to fund the Treasury too. They cannot have it both ways. And the Teaparty people should be the first ones on board since we all know they're about shrinking government involvement in the private lives of the citizens. If they want it, let THEM pay for it.

Who do corporations employ?

 

[dogtowner]

What, you a self-proclaimed teabagger are in favor of paying taxes and having "our" government collect them from you?

Weird. One would almost think you had double standards..
I've noticed that in some bloggers actually and it's the darndest thing?

You might recall that the Constitution allows for it.

What the Tea Party movement is about is scaling government back to its Constitutional limits (or as close as possible) which will similarly scale back the amount of taxes collected.

You really should go to a Tea Party event and discover what its really about. Your MSM view of it is horribly wrong.

I was suggesting that it might not go so well for you should you attempt to not pay your taxes. They take a dim view of that sort of thing.

 

[Sihouette]

Who do corporations employ?

People. It's the quality of life of those people that is in question. If you allow corporations to run this country like they will now unfettered, they historically and as recently as 2008 financial collapse have PROVEN they WILL NOT consider this nation first, nor the wellbeing of it's citizen workforce.

You weren't around in the 1800s when companies ran unfettered. Read some articles on the good old days when corporations stuffed Congress unabashedly with their goons. For that matter read up on the last results of deregulation and free reign with supercorporations. We're fighting two wars right now at the behest of BigOil. We are beholden to China thanks to the Banks. You want to gamble the wellbeing of the people by defending "supercitizen" "rights" to squash us as they most assuredly will? You're not an american then.

I'll restate the Preamble to the Declaration Of Independance [a document drawn up specifically to cast off the corporate control of America by the British...remember what the original tea parties were all about...the irony of corporations using that historical event as their strawman is maddening]

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
2.3 Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
2.4 But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
2.5 Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
Charges
3.1 He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

The Founding Fathers continue with their list of grievances against King George:

..He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance..

..For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences..

.. For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever...

That last line is what was enacted yesterday. Mega-corporate super-citizens using media have de facto unlimited power over the people. Whosoever controls the flow of information, via the influence of superwealth, controls the governance of this nation.

The Supreme Court yesterday turned back the hands of time to the days just before the Declaration Of Independance and we truly no longer are a democracy. Yesterday, a day of infamy, January 21, 2010 we were officially usurped as the affectors of our own destinies. Those justices who voted in favor just indentured their own grandchildren to slavery and subjegation.

 

[Sihouette]

the Tea Party movement is about is scaling government back to its Constitutional limits (or as close as possible)~professional blogger

Good, then you won't mind Congress exercising its powers via Article I, Section 8, Line 1 of our Constitution to provide for the general Welfare by enacting universal healthcare coverage, in line with military provisions, fire suppression, infrastructure and schools? Right? or do you want to do away with fire suppression? Infrastructure? Schools?

Either we provide for all the fundamentals of the general Welfare or we provide for none of them. Go ahead. Privatize fire suppression, for even the rich are not immune to the lightening strikes of fate..

 

[Little-Acorn]

It's getting to the point where it's funny, watching Sihouette whining out his fears of corporations again, and again, and again, in nearly every context imaginable. Now they seem to be his latest excuse for government taking over health care, even after he's been debunked time and again.

Hey, Sihouette, didn't you catch the little hint sent your way by the people of Massachusetts a few days ago? You know, the ones who voted massively for Obama a year ago, but are now having HUGE second thoughts? Or the hint sent by the people of New Jersey? Or the one from the people of Virginia?

And, have you forgotten our little chats about why the Welfare Clause does NOT authorize the Fed to take over Health Care industry? You've had your head handed to you three times now.

Most people who get warned that a 2x4 is approaching their face, will at least stop and take notice. Those that don't might get whacked in the face, and THAT will finally get their attention.

You've been so informed several times here. And now your face has met the 2x4 at least three separate times (NJ, VA, and now MA).

And you're STILL here trying to tell us that govt taking over health care is both legal, and beneficial?

Has anyone ever seen Sihouette and Nancy "Most transparent process ever" Pelosi in the same room at the same time? Their similar tactics of repeating a flagrant lie over and over, in hopes that it will somehow become true, is making me wonder if they aren't the same person.

 

[dogtowner]

Good, then you won't mind Congress exercising its powers via Article I, Section 8, Line 1 of our Constitution to provide for the general Welfare by enacting universal healthcare coverage, in line with military provisions, fire suppression, infrastructure and schools? Right? or do you want to do away with fire suppression? Infrastructure? Schools?

Either we provide for all the fundamentals of the general Welfare or we provide for none of them. Go ahead. Privatize fire suppression, for even the rich are not immune to the lightening strikes of fate..

Just as soon as healthcare is added as an enumerated power.

You might recall that fire prevention is a local government matter, not federal, same with schools.

You cant just ignore the parts of the Constitution that you disagree with.

 

[dogtowner]

It's getting to the point where it's funny, watching Sihouette whining out his fears of corporations again, and again, and again, in nearly every context imaginable. Now they seem to be his latest excuse for government taking over health care, even after he's been debunked time and again.

Hey, Sihouette, didn't you catch the little hint sent your way by the people of Massachusetts a few days ago? You know, the ones who voted massively for Obama a year ago, but are now having HUGE second thoughts? Or the hint sent by the people of New Jersey? Or the one from the people of Virginia?

And, have you forgotten our little chats about why the Welfare Clause does NOT authorize the Fed to take over Health Care industry? You've had your head handed to you three times now.

Most people who get warned that a 2x4 is approaching their face, will at least stop and take notice. Those that don't might get whacked in the face, and THAT will finally get their attention.

You've been so informed several times here. And now your face has met the 2x4 at least three separate times (NJ, VA, and now MA).

And you're STILL here trying to tell us that govt taking over health care is both legal, and beneficial?

Has anyone ever seen Sihouette and Nancy "Most transparent process ever" Pelosi in the same room at the same time? Their similar tactics of repeating a flagrant lie over and over, in hopes that it will somehow become true, is making me wonder if they aren't the same person.

sil is totally invested in the lib ideology and will not question it.
he/she wants what they want and thats it.