Supreme Court upholds virtually all of Obamacare - Full text of Opinion and Dissent here

Now that the shock has worn off, let’s think about this.
President Obama is now the owner of the biggest tax hike in history, he wields the most powerful IRS in history, has effectively been called a liar by the Supreme Court, and the Commerce Clause finally hit a wall future congresses will find it difficult to scale.
How again is this a political win for the Democrats?
Liberals do not care how they get something as long as they get it. They will lie cheat and steal to get what ever it is they want, in this case a pathetic health care bill. You can point out they are liars cheaters exc, but they don't care as long as they got what they were after.

So we can know they are immoral lying snakes in the grass but they will smile and say yeah... well I got my health care.... so they do have a temporary win that we can hopefully change in November.
 
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Now that the shock has worn off, let’s think about this.
President Obama is now the owner of the biggest tax hike in history, he wields the most powerful IRS in history, has effectively been called a liar by the Supreme Court, and the Commerce Clause finally hit a wall future congresses will find it difficult to scale.
How again is this a political win for the Democrats?

it will be worth it if it creates the anti-dem tsunami that claims the house and senate. WH should be a lock now.
 
The ONLY way this all works out is quite simple.
Physicians, drug companies and all other medical-related businesses will be broken down to a fast-food mentality.
Doctors will NOT be able to be "rich" anymore. Many will approve of this.
They will work for a decent wage.
When they add lawyers to that mix, that will be a help.
Big law suits will begin to disappear.
Every aspect of health care will be reduced to the lowest common denominator.
Graft and payoffs and ripoffs will absolutely SKYROCKET.
It will make Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac look like the USMC.

The business of human misery will be reduced to a "so-what/too bad" mentality, done as cheaply and massively as can be done.
Old people will be gotten "rid of". Money pits.
All medical facilities will be utterly inundated with those who want attention that day and drug users and all sorts of co-dependent people.
Sick babies will be set out on the roof of hospitals to die, or just use the big suction probe to scoop out the brains in one minute. Or--worse.
That has been the age-old problem with socialized medicine--and HAD been what set the USA apart.
Innovation will begin to evaporate.
It will be like Mexico--free medical care for all--just no place within 100-mile radius to get it.

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE US CONGRESS BE IN THIS SYSTEM!
And all Government employees. WITHOUT EXCEPTION!
When people begin to grumble--as always--socialism is enforced by--COMMUNISM. The Enforcer!
 
Liberals do not care how they get something as long as they get it. They will lie cheat and steal to get what ever it is they want, in this case a pathetic health care bill. You can point out they are liars cheaters exc, but they don't care as long as they got what they were after.

So we can know they are immoral lying snakes in the grass but they will smile and say yeah... well I got my health care.... so they do have a temporary win that we can hopefully change in November.

The problem liberals like this fail to comprehend, is that ultimately the freebie they so love, turns out to be a dud. If Obamacare survives, years from now American HC will be very poor. The liberals will get their 'free' care, but it will hardly be good care. Rationing will be the rule of the day.

How funny it will be when the Obama voter is told by the government bureaucrat, "Sorry Charlie, but you ain't gettin' any further care. The cost benefit analysis is not in your favor. You can die here or at home. Your choice."

So, when we are dying in hospital we can ask our fellow dying patients, "Did you vote for Obama?" At least we can get some perverse enjoyment out of watching the liberals die.
 
The famous quip from the inimitable Margaret Thatcher of Great Britain always comes to mind--

"The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money".
 
This from the WSL... essentially the author claims "reality" will trump Obummercare and result in its elimination...meaning the nation is already bankrupt and unable to support the existing welfare state prior to this new big entitlement program. I hope he is right, but I suspect he is not. Liberal politicians do not make laws based on reality, otherwise we would not be in the disastrous shape we are in.
Perhaps a not-discreditable sense of the political moment lies behind the chief justice's opinion after all. The court's job, he wrote, is not to "protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."
He may have meant: The chief justice's job is to get the court out of the way while the body politic still remains suspended between recognizing the unsustainabilty of the current welfare model and deciding what to do about it.
This was always the fatal problem of ObamaCare. Reality could not have instructed President Obama more plainly: The last thing we needed, in a country staggering under deficits and debt, a sluggish economy and an unaffordable entitlement structure, was a new Rube Goldberg entitlement. The last thing we needed was ObamaCare. The nation and the times were asking Mr. Obama to reform health care, not to double-down on everything wrong with the current system.
Even with this week's Court success, he failed—and it's not as if there wasn't a deep well of policy understanding in Washington that he could have drawn on to take the country in a better direction. Regardless of any Supreme Court ruling, reality will pass its own judgment on the Affordable Care Act and it won't be favorable.
 
they're getting treated now which is rather more important than being covered.

Yes they are treated...only at the point where its life or death....and still its estamated that some 45,000 die from lack of coverage.

Covered means you can go in when you get sick...not when your about to die and it costs 1,000 times more to save you. If having coverage was so meanless as you claim, why do you blow so much money to be covered?
Also who pays for those not covererd?

You...But oddly your against someone saying they should pay for there coverage if they can. But your for them putting the bill on you if they can.
 
Liberals do not care how they get something as long as they get it. They will lie cheat and steal to get what ever it is they want, in this case a pathetic health care bill. You can point out they are liars cheaters exc, but they don't care as long as they got what they were after.

So we can know they are immoral lying snakes in the grass but they will smile and say yeah... well I got my health care.... so they do have a temporary win that we can hopefully change in November.

And by cheating and stealing you mean...voted in a Democracy.
But no we don't care what you think...because guess what...you don't care what we think.
 
Now that the shock has worn off, let’s think about this.
President Obama is now the owner of the biggest tax hike in history, he wields the most powerful IRS in history, has effectively been called a liar by the Supreme Court, and the Commerce Clause finally hit a wall future congresses will find it difficult to scale.
How again is this a political win for the Democrats?

How much did your taxes go up? I have health care, my taxes are actually lower then they where 3 years ago...
 
The ONLY way this all works out is quite simple.
Physicians, drug companies and all other medical-related businesses will be broken down to a fast-food mentality.
Doctors will NOT be able to be "rich" anymore. Many will approve of this.
They will work for a decent wage.
When they add lawyers to that mix, that will be a help.
Big law suits will begin to disappear.
Every aspect of health care will be reduced to the lowest common denominator.
Graft and payoffs and ripoffs will absolutely SKYROCKET.
It will make Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac look like the USMC.

The business of human misery will be reduced to a "so-what/too bad" mentality, done as cheaply and massively as can be done.
Old people will be gotten "rid of". Money pits.
All medical facilities will be utterly inundated with those who want attention that day and drug users and all sorts of co-dependent people.
Sick babies will be set out on the roof of hospitals to die, or just use the big suction probe to scoop out the brains in one minute. Or--worse.
That has been the age-old problem with socialized medicine--and HAD been what set the USA apart.
Innovation will begin to evaporate.
It will be like Mexico--free medical care for all--just no place within 100-mile radius to get it.

IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT THE US CONGRESS BE IN THIS SYSTEM!
And all Government employees. WITHOUT EXCEPTION!
When people begin to grumble--as always--socialism is enforced by--COMMUNISM. The Enforcer!

Tin Foil Hat Alert!

you live in your moms basement ....I mean "bunker" with lots of guns and canned foods scared of the black helicopters don't you.
 
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you boys want to dial it back a couple notches ? please ?
dont want to shut anyone up, just keep it civil.
thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 
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