Supreme Court Rejects Campaign Spending Limits

Obama Turns Up Heat Over Ruling on Campaign Spending
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
In his weekly address, the president said the Supreme Court’s 5-to-4 ruling “handed a huge victory to the special interests and their lobbyists.”
January 24, 2010
WASHINGTON — President Obama took aim at the Supreme Court on Saturday, saying the justices had “handed a huge victory to the special interests and their lobbyists” with last week’s 5-to-4 decision to lift restrictions on campaign spending by corporations and unions.
The decision will have major political implications for this year’s midterm elections. After it was announced, Mr. Obama immediately instructed his advisers to work with Congress on legislation that would restore some of the limits the court lifted. But in his weekly address on Saturday, he sharply stepped up his criticism of the high court.
“This ruling strikes at our democracy itself,” Mr. Obama said, adding: “I can’t think of anything more devastating to the public interest. The last thing we need to do is hand more influence to the lobbyists in Washington, or more power to the special interests to tip the outcome of elections.”
How much the administration can do about the ruling remains unclear, although Mr. Obama said he had instructed his advisers to work with Congress on a “forceful, bipartisan response.”
That process got under way Friday, a White House official said, when Norm Eisen, Mr. Obama’s special counsel for ethics and government reform, met with two leading Democrats — Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York and Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland — to begin talks on how Congress might proceed.
The sharply divided decision overturned parts of a 2002 law — known as the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law, after the two senators who sponsored it — that severely restricted political advertising paid for by corporations and unions in the 30 days before a presidential primary and in the 60 days before general elections.
The five justices who sided with the majority characterized it as a victory for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. The ruling was expected to unleash a torrent of attack advertisements in the coming midterm elections; many analysts said it would benefit Republicans in a year when Democrats are already on the defensive.
But the decision could also have a significant effect on Mr. Obama’s expansive domestic agenda. The president has angered many of the big-money industries — like banks and insurers — that would be inclined to dig deep into their pockets to influence the outcome of the president’s legislative proposals.
Mr. Obama has repeatedly assailed the influence of “special interests” in blocking his proposed health care overhaul and tough new regulations on banks; in his address on Saturday, he warned that the Supreme Court’s ruling would make enacting legislation all the more difficult.
“All of us, regardless of party, should be worried that it will be that much harder to get fair, common-sense financial reforms, or close unwarranted tax loopholes that reward corporations from sheltering their income or shipping American jobs offshore,” Mr. Obama said, adding that the ruling would also make it “more difficult to pass common-sense laws” to promote energy independence or expand health care.

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Great, just when we need another issue to be a distraction to our economics problem...this gets handed down by our Supreme Court...will it matter/will it get changed before the 2012 presidential election {heavy sigh}
 
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More shredded POM-POM material laying around...CLEAN UP on another topic! :cool:

Yep...you might want to take her warning as a FACT...she's tried to protected some of the most heinous posters todate and they were permanently banned for their ability to not take her kind guidance...hmmm
MOTHER SMOTHER...and yet her history is the blackest for the most vile words that I've ever heard in 5 years on community boards...LMAO

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What do they give you if you are not new?

Depends, some have been banned for a week after months of constant insults
others have been banned for a week after being here less than 2 weeks for insults

Some have been perma banned


The rules are sketchy so just do your best to not take the bait. Some will taunt you till you blow then report you... Out smart them :)
 
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Yep...good rules...I hope you abide by them, you seem to have had moments where you completely ignored them but then what do I know...I've never called anyone a M.F. ' EVER '... ;)
 
Yep...good rules...I hope you abide by them, you seem to have had moments where you completely ignored them but then what do I know...I've never called anyone a M.F. ' EVER '... ;)

Again, you go back to long before you were a member take something I said ( out of constext) and ride with it. Something even though its not exactly how you word it, I admitted I should not have said to a guy who advocated for adults to have sex with 7 year old girls. Its all you have and its as funny as it is sad.

I would love to post the mean nasty things you have left on my page and the really mean and nasty thing you have PM'd me but it woud probably get me in trouble for posting rude things in forum even though they were written by you.

The last week or so has been really nice, why dont we go back to you not posting to me. I only post to you when you directly post to me. If you stop then we can stop flooding the various threads.
 
Congress does not direct the Supreme Court with respect to what parts of the Constitution to consider in hearing cases regarding its laws.

What part of separation of powers don't you understand? ~ A clone
The part in Amendment 14, line 5 giving Congress specific authority over just that Amendment in its enforcement. That power is vague and may be interpreted by the current sitting Congress.
 
Yes, good, you know how to read my posts apparently.

And since we're talking about the creation of fiscal supercitizens by the SCOTUS ruling, it is the 14th that can be enforced to rebuke that. The Supreme Court may only interpret the Constitition. It may not rewrite it. If so, the 14th was effectively repealed and should be formally done. But that's up to Congress and I believe they're going to take the power handed to them in the last line of that Amendment and use it to enforce that Amendment instead. They can you know, because whoever wrote and ratified that Amendment including that exception to the balance of power.

And like I said, the writers most likely realized how easy it would be for 9 [excuse me, I mean 5] people of special interest to find their way into the Supreme Court to pull a stunt just exactly like January 21, 2010. That's why they put the vague power of enforcement on that one Amendment into the hands of hundreds of elected [and accountable] representatives.

Mr. Obama said he had instructed his advisers to work with Congress on a “forceful, bipartisan response.”
The dems remind me of a battered woman. McCain is the chocolate and flowers, Boehner the flying fists. They need to get to a shelter and learn personal empowerment at like light speed. The fact that Obama is STILL trusting trojan horses like McCain and even bluedogs...I mean, I thought at least we had a good president because he was smart. Now I'm starting to wonder. If he gives one of his long cheerleader speeches with Biden looking stern over his shoulder, I quit. Those guys should give a five minute State of the Union, walk away from the microphone with the cameras following them, head right over to the Capitol Building and preside over a special session of Congress to address this atrocity.
 
Yes, good, you know how to read my posts apparently.

And since we're talking about the creation of fiscal supercitizens by the SCOTUS ruling, it is the 14th that can be enforced to rebuke that. The Supreme Court may only interpret the Constitition. It may not rewrite it. If so, the 14th was effectively repealed and should be formally done. But that's up to Congress and I believe they're going to take the power handed to them in the last line of that Amendment and use it to enforce that Amendment instead. They can you know, because whoever wrote and ratified that Amendment including that exception to the balance of power.

And like I said, the writers most likely realized how easy it would be for 9 [excuse me, I mean 5] people of special interest to find their way into the Supreme Court to pull a stunt just exactly like January 21, 2010. That's why they put the vague power of enforcement on that one Amendment into the hands of hundreds of elected [and accountable] representatives.


14th pertains to rights of citizens, 1st is not limited to citizens.
 
Again, you go back to long before you were a member take something I said ( out of constext) and ride with it. Something even though its not exactly how you word it, I admitted I should not have said to a guy who advocated for adults to have sex with 7 year old girls. Its all you have and its as funny as it is sad.

I would love to post the mean nasty things you have left on my page and the really mean and nasty thing you have PM'd me but it woud probably get me in trouble for posting rude things in forum even though they were written by you.

The last week or so has been really nice, why dont we go back to you not posting to me. I only post to you when you directly post to me. If you stop then we can stop flooding the various threads.
I believe that I've told you...anytime you come on here acting all St Teresa like then I'll be right there busting your HALO just so the other side of your personality is out there for all to see...seems pretty simplistic to me. ;)
You create the situation and then CRY FOUL when your darker personality is shown up for what it is! And I've never said the filthy things that you keep accusing me of and you are quite capable of providing that verification but you don't...you just keep saying that I have. Well, yours lives in infamy and you provided me with the proof :cool:
 
The dems remind me of a battered woman.
I would say beaten dogs... but even if your assertion is true that they have the power to over turn the SCOTUS ruling, what are the chances that they'll actually have the courage to do it? They aren't very high in my estimation.

IMO campaigns should be financed solely through public funding. The internet would be the perfect resource for broadcasting candidates platforms, biographies, videos of speeches, debates and town hall meetings. Each candidate would also be allotted a specified amount of money for their campaign to use as they wish. Each dime spent must be accounted for and violation of these rules would be grounds for removal from office or criminal prosecution. After all, we're electing these people to caretake our public funds. What better way to prove their capability than to spend those limited campaign funds effectively and efficiently?

Publicly financed elections would make public service a more attainable goal for the average citizen, who currently don't stand much chance against the heavily financed political machines that dominate the landscape and would help to return the government back to the people, instead of leaving it in the hands of professional politicians, who've created the mess we find ourselves in today.
 
I believe that I've told you...anytime you come on here acting all St Teresa like then I'll be right there busting your HALO just so the other side of your personality is out there for all to see...seems pretty simplistic to me. ;)
You create the situation and then CRY FOUL when your darker personality is shown up for what it is! And I've never said the filthy things that you keep accusing me of and you are quite capable of providing that verification but you don't...you just keep saying that I have. Well, yours lives in infamy and you provided me with the proof :cool:

ASPCA4 EVER, I do not know either you or Pandora personally. To my knowledge I have never seen or met either of you.
However , based on reading of your total post since I begin on this forum and based on reading the post of PANDORA , I must say with all sincerity , that in seeing the evidence put forth on this forum , I BELIEVE PANDORA and NOT YOU concerning this matter. Let us close this matter as Pandora suggest!
 
Yes, good points citizenzen. Add making lobbying after the official is elected equivalent to bribery [which it already factually is] and you've got my vote pal!

14th pertains to rights of citizens, 1st is not limited to citizens~a clone
Yes it is limited to citizens in this way: the establishement of "supercitizens" who in today's current vocalization milieu [instead of on stumps like in the old days] have superpowers to have their speech drown out that of others is in direct violation of the 14th which states no law may be passed [or indeed enforced by any other body but Congress] that in doing so abridges the rights of others. The inordinant and supreme wealth of corporations whose sole existence is to pray to the bottom line and to exist as groups whose sole function is to hoarde wealth and wield power with that wealth, effectively squashes ordinary citizen's free speech in today's factual speech forums.

Times change and so does the mandate to Congress to enforce the 14th as per line 5.

It's funny the points you make about the dems not getting it up to wield the power they have. They'll spend hundreds of millions on campaigning. They'll get jet-lag from endless excursions stumping. They'll have speeches, make addresses, have brainstorming sessions, posture, pontificate and so on to the point of where I'm exhausted for them just watching it all. And yet take one afternoon in the session hall of the Senate where all they have to do is stand shoulder to shoulder and look the GOP in the face and tell them to have intercourse with themselves and you'll see them run for cover as if you've asked them to do the hardest thing in the world. The worst thing that could happen to them is death. No, wait, since all of us will die anyway, the worst thing is for them to die having allowed our country to dissolve on their watch. So the priorities are clear. Slam medusa in the head with a sledgehammer so that the dems fear of her death stare will no longer paralyze them.
 
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Yes it is limited to citizens in this way: the establishement of "supercitizens" who in today's current vocalization milieu [instead of on stumps like in the old days] have superpowers to have their speech drown out that of others is in direct violation of the 14th which states no law may be passed [or indeed enforced by any other body but Congress] that in doing so abridges the rights of others..


no one is abridging the free speech of anyone. your argument is without merit. i understand your view but the Constitution does n ot support it.

a far better tack is to legislate that giving money does not = free speech. thats the insupportable aspect that is the heart of all this.

money perverts politics and should be eliminated. this is anathema to politics as it was invented to promote croneyism and power brokering.

fight the disease not the symptoms.
 
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