Republicans against debt...but not really...

[Gipper]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

in other words ..you don't have the book in front of you telling you how to respond

It does not matter what facts I state. You will always twist them to fit your kooky ideology. Right?

As I have stated for some time, facts and liberalism can't co-exist.

That damn Reagan...he just ran up the deficit....Obama is a great president.

See what I mean?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

It does not matter what facts I state. You will always twist them to fit your kooky ideology. Right?

As I have stated for some time, facts and liberalism can't co-exist.

That damn Reagan...he just ran up the deficit....Obama is a great president.

See what I mean?

just keep dancing...

 

[Rick]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

well gee with your fact based argument there how can anyone disagree that the might Ronny single handedly crushed the USSR...?

Certainly not YOU - you have no facts, no arguments, no conception of debate.

 

[Rick]

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Reagan was a liberal. Did you know that he signed into law the biggest tax increase in the history of California while a governor of that state?

My hero! A fellow lib who has made himself popular with the anti libs!

Standard liberal distortion - for the WHOLE truth, read my Reagan thread.

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Certainly not YOU - you have no facts, no arguments, no conception of debate.

yes I use facts..you run...a debate is where you respond back with facts to counter...not ignore what is said and keep repeating what you think

 

[Rick]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

yes I use facts..you run...a debate is where you respond back with facts to counter...not ignore what is said and keep repeating what you think

Anyone who reads my Reagan thread will clearly see your ommissions, distortions, and half truths - case closed. (Yaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn)

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Anyone who reads my Reagan thread will clearly see your ommissions, distortions, and half truths - case closed. (Yaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn)

you mean where you selectively pick things you like...and ignore those you dont...

 

[PLC1]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Anyone who reads my Reagan thread will clearly see your ommissions, distortions, and half truths - case closed. (Yaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnn)

Hmmmm... This Reagan thread?

I see lots of opinions, no links, lots of smilies, no reference to the tax increase mentioned above.

That is relevant, how again?

 

[Rick]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

you mean where you selectively pick things you like...and ignore those you dont...

No, where I puncture your mythology full of holes.

 

[Rick]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Hmmmm... This Reagan thread?

I see lots of opinions, no links, lots of smilies, no reference to the tax increase mentioned above.

I DID mention it, you can't read, and it's full of well-known historical facts. Refute any of them - you can't.

 

[PLC1]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

I DID mention it, you can't read, and it's full of well-known historical facts. Refute any of them - you can't.

Nope, not a word about that record setting tax increase in California. I'm sure, though, if you had mentioned it, it would have been the fault of the Democrats in one way or another.

Also, this is an interesting spin on history:

When the democrats, all horny over marxist thugs taking over Nicargaua, refused to give aid to the democratic resistance, Reagan (apparently illegally) approved the Iran-Contra deal to get them money. Ultimate result: the end of the marxist regime, and establishment of democracy in Nicaragua.

Apparently illegally? The Iran-Contra deal involved selling arms to Iran and using that money to fund the Contras.

What would you say if Obama approved selling arms to Iran?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Nope, not a word about that record setting tax increase in California. I'm sure, though, if you had mentioned it, it would have been the fault of the Democrats in one way or another.

Also, this is an interesting spin on history:



Apparently illegally? The Iran-Contra deal involved selling arms to Iran and using that money to fund the Contras.

What would you say if Obama approved selling arms to Iran?

well its not like he did it in order to negotiate with terrorist holding people...cuz that would be wrong.

But see by pointing out actions Regan did do...if you just ignore them...and try to point out other things...it makes them go away

but at least it admits he know about it...and signed off on it...most play the he was to off his rocker to know what he was doing

 

[Rick]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Nope, not a word about that record setting tax increase in California. I'm sure, though, if you had mentioned it, it would have been the fault of the Democrats in one way or another.

Reagan raised taxes to cover the gigantic deficit left by his democrat predecessor. Is this anything at all like leftwinger obozo bleeding the country of 3 trillion dollars (and an estimated six trillion by 2012) to enrich his political constituencies, and then turning on a dime to becoming a born-again deficit reducer? Nooooooooooooo. The truth is in the details that distorters like you leave out.

Apparently illegally? The Iran-Contra deal involved selling arms to Iran and using that money to fund the Contras.

What would you say if Obama approved selling arms to Iran?

Reagan took his action in a desperate move to prevent another cuba in latin america, and maybe more cubas than that, as the nicaraguan marxists were busily trying to overthrow other latin american countries, but let's ignore that detail, too.

Lie, distort, half-truths, pull things out of context - that's leftwing "history".

 

[BigRob]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Where is our Star wars system? wait you mean even today it does not work....and no the Russians where not that scared of a system that did not work...while the US build up a arms race against missles that did not exist and where never built...

I am going to weigh in on this point... many elements of the Star Wars program make up an integral part of our current missile defense shield. While deployment of Star Wars as Reagan envisioned did not occur, the technology went a long way to pushing our missile defense system.

That said, Russia was in fact quite worried about such a program.. statements from their officials confirm it... It is also rumored that Reagan offered to give all the Star Wars technology to the Russians to allay their concerns, which of course they rejected, rumored because they just didn't believe he would offer that for real.

So no, Star Wars did not bring down the Russians, but it played a vital role in the development of our current missile shield.

 

[PLC1]

Re: Republicans against debt...but not realy...

Reagan raised taxes to cover the gigantic deficit left by his democrat predecessor. Is this anything at all like leftwinger obozo bleeding the country of 3 trillion dollars (and an estimated six trillion by 2012) to enrich his political constituencies, and then turning on a dime to becoming a born-again deficit reducer? Nooooooooooooo. The truth is in the details that distorters like you leave out.

yep. I knew it. The Democrats' fault, just like I said.

Reagan took his action in a desperate move to prevent another cuba in latin america, and maybe more cubas than that, as the nicaraguan marxists were busily trying to overthrow other latin american countries, but let's ignore that detail, too.

Lie, distort, half-truths, pull things out of context - that's leftwing "history".

I see. So, selling arms to Iran was justified, because the Congress of the US was wrong in not supporting a war in Central America.

When Congress is wrong, it is OK for the executive branch to raise money however they can to correct that wrong, even if it means selling arms to the enemy.

Now that your position on that is clear, we know how you would feel about Obama selling arms to Iran: It would be OK so long as it is to correct a wrong decision made by Congress.

Interesting philosophy.