Recycling to survive

randyjohnson

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My dad has seen a lot of senior citizens and people who have been laid-off having to recycle scrap metal and aluminum cans just to be able to survive. They need the recycling money to be able to make it. It's great that these people are recycling but it shouldn't be because it's the only way for them to survive.

I can tell you in two words why they're struggling. George Bush. Bush caused this recession and people all over the country are feeling the pain because of it. Bush has been unsuccessful at ending this recession and I doubt that John McCain can be successful at ending it either. I decided to vote early and I voted for all democrats.
 
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Do you live in California? Coz if you do then these old fellas may qualify for some state assistance if they go into business!!

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The Division of Recycling (DOR) administers funding programs to assist organizations with establishing convenient beverage container recycling and litter abatement projects, and to encourage market development and expansion activities for beverage container materials. Funds are available through the following programs:

http://www.conservation.ca.gov/dor/grants/Pages/Index.aspx

Theres money in garbage doncha know ;)
 
I can tell you in two words why they're struggling. George Bush. Bush caused this recession and people all over the country are feeling the pain because of it. Bush has been unsuccessful at ending this recession and I doubt that John McCain can be successful at ending it either. I decided to vote early and I voted for all democrats.
Good choice.....especially, because Republicans are (also) into recycling?
 
My dad has seen a lot of senior citizens and people who have been laid-off having to recycle scrap metal and aluminum cans just to be able to survive. They need the recycling money to be able to make it. It's great that these people are recycling but it shouldn't be because it's the only way for them to survive.

I can tell you in two words why they're struggling. George Bush. Bush caused this recession and people all over the country are feeling the pain because of it. Bush has been unsuccessful at ending this recession and I doubt that John McCain can be successful at ending it either. I decided to vote early and I voted for all democrats.

Reach into your own pockets and give these people jobs Mr. Compassion... YOU hire them, YOU take care of them, YOU take some freakin responsibility rather than scapegoating Bush with the weak accusation of "Bush did it".

I can give you ONE word as to why they are struggling: SOCIALISM

The anti-capitalist socialists LOVE to raise taxes on business and regulate them out of a profit, forcing them overseas or out of business... and whats your answer? MORE SOCIALIST POLITICIANS!!!

My suggestion to everyone, read the constitution, read what our founders said about the founding principles of this nation and how to achieve greatness.... Here's a hint... They were against "Spreading the wealth" and understood that was a recipe for DISASTER.
 
Reach into your own pockets and give these people jobs Mr. Compassion... YOU hire them, YOU take care of them, YOU take some freakin responsibility rather than scapegoating Bush with the weak accusation of "Bush did it".

I can give you ONE word as to why they are struggling: SOCIALISM

The anti-capitalist socialists LOVE to raise taxes on business and regulate them out of a profit, forcing them overseas or out of business... and whats your answer? MORE SOCIALIST POLITICIANS!!!

My suggestion to everyone, read the constitution, read what our founders said about the founding principles of this nation and how to achieve greatness.... Here's a hint... They were against "Spreading the wealth" and understood that was a recipe for DISASTER.

<Yaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn....> Great rhetoric.... :rolleyes:

"The government should make sure people who work 40 hours a week do not live in poverty."

Fortunately (in lieu of your paranoia), we've got congressmen who GET IT!!! :cool:
 
I can give you ONE word as to why they are struggling: SOCIALISM
.........Interesting......or it could be you're struggling because other countries make things better and cheaper than the US and aren't up to their necks in debt! I think its called an economic cycle?


My suggestion to everyone, read the constitution, read what our founders said about the founding principles of this nation and how to achieve greatness.... Here's a hint... They were against "Spreading the wealth" and understood that was a recipe for DISASTER.
........the founders would be hard pressed to understand the concepts of credit default swaps and international liquidity restrictions.....but I guess if you wanted to understand animal husbandy then thats the place to look since they were mostly farmers back them olden golden times......you could also get out "Basket Weaving for Beginners" and kick start the economy from the beginning.......... with bartering, swap you a loaf for a sack of beans?

I think the worlds problems are bit more complext then shouting SOCIALISM all the time
 
I think the worlds problems are bit more complext then shouting SOCIALISM all the time

I see... so they can blame Capitlism ALL THE TIME and I should STFU and not correct them... Thanks for letting me know.

As for the Constitution being "outdated"... I wasn't aware that Freedom and Individual Liberty were out of style.... Good thing you said something, Now I can vote for Obama.
 
.........Interesting......or it could be you're struggling because other countries make things better and cheaper than the US and aren't up to their necks in debt! I think its called an economic cycle?
Why can other countries make things cheaper? I'll give you one reason: Taxes

Why is my nation up to our necks in DEBT? Socialist Policies... Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, and all kinds of other SOCIAL programs that have run up the tab.

While simply yelling Socialism may not fix anything.... People need to understand that Socialist policies and programs are at the heart of our downfall.... Then maybe, once people reject Socialism, we can fix things.
 
I see... so they can blame Capitlism ALL THE TIME and I should STFU and not correct them... Thanks for letting me know.
Then, get ready for the Obama Admin's corruption-investigations!!!

July 9, 2002 - "But what is not discussed is the actual cause and perpetration of the excesses now unraveling at a frantic pace. This same response occurred in the 1930s in the United States as our policymakers responded to the very similar excesses that developed and collapsed in 1929. Because of the failure to understand the problem then, the depression was prolonged. These mistakes allowed our current problems to develop to a much greater degree. Consider the failure to come to grips with the cause of the 1980s bubble, as Japan's economy continues to linger at no-growth and recession level, with their stock market at approximately one-fourth of its peak 13 years ago. If we're not careful – and so far we've not beenwe will make the same errors that will prevent the correction needed before economic growth can be resumed.

First, Congress should be investigating the federal government's fraud and deception in accounting, especially in reporting future obligations such as Social Security, and how the monetary system destroys wealth. Those problems are bigger than anything in the corporate world and are the responsibility of Congress. Besides, it's the standard set by the government and the monetary system it operates that are major contributing causes to all that's wrong on Wall Street today."

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Then, get ready for the Obama Admin's corruption-investigations!!!

Your reply makes no sense, please explain how a Ron Paul (Republican) article in support of Capitalism, published in 2002, has ANYTHING to do with an Obama administration?

So please, tell me, what do Dr. Ron Paul and Obama (Sen. Government) have to do with each other? ...They are on OPPOSITE ends of the political spectrum.
 
I see... so they can blame Capitlism ALL THE TIME and I should STFU and not correct them... Thanks for letting me know.
...........You're welcome:D But seriously the problems within the US economy are a tad more deep seated than just hollaring socialism versus capitalism all the time.

As for the Constitution being "outdated"... I wasn't aware that Freedom and Individual Liberty were out of style.... Good thing you said something, Now I can vote for Obama.
......vote for whomever you like personaly I think Obama is as vacuous as McCain and come voting day you'd all be better off staying at home.
 
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Why can other countries make things cheaper? I'll give you one reason: Taxes

Taxes!!??? Do you think that the German car workers pay less tax than American car workers!!?? check out the success of BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, etc. etc. Airbus is now the world leader in Aircraft manufacture....do their workers pay more or less tax than Boeing!!??
 
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