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[GenSeneca]

Depends on how one defines entitlement programs. Id like a link to back up this claim.

It was right here on this forum that I laid out the math and explained the methodology for arriving at those numbers. I'll have to search for it, its lost in here somewhere...

owning property is NOT a right.

So Americans have no right to the money they earn or their posessions...According to you, we have no rights to any of our property.

Sounds like a real Utopia.

What it doesn't sound like is the America our Fathers founded.

Individual Rights cannot exist along side of the "Greater Good". If you are for the Greater Good, you are against Individual Rights.

 

[BigRob]

i am not talking about big citys
i am talking about
the heart land
where i live

I grew up in the "heartland" and I just did a quick job search of jobs in the "heartland." The vast majority of entry level ones are paying 30,000 plus.

you big city types just live to look down on ural folk
where 25k a year has to raise
a family of four

I do not look down on you. But it is not my problem that you have four kids and cannot afford to take of them all. Perhaps that should have crossed your mind before you had kids. Perhaps you should get a new job.

there are millions of them
tens of millions

And there is an equal number who paid attention in school and went on to get a good job... what are you trying to prove?

 

[Shotgun314159]

15 and hour is 30k a year

thoes jobs are few and far between
if your young simply cause there alot of you around

can you condem some that could not "afford" higher education
higher education should be provided for all

i can stand and rail at stupid with you
all day long
yet

i am a design engineer
on bleeding edge technology
15 years of experence in my industry
i am one of the technoelete

tee hee heee

 

[BigRob]

15 and hour is 30k a year

thoes jobs are few and far between
if your young simply cause there alot of you around

No they are not. They are entry level.

can you condem some that could not "afford" higher education
higher education should be provided for all

Yea, once everyone has a college degree then it will become as worthless as a high school diploma. Then it will be graduate degrees that get you a job. You can get many grants or scholarships to college, and there and many government loans, if you do not take advantage of them, it is not my fault.

i can stand and rail at stupid with you
all day long
yet

i am a design engineer
on bleeding edge technology
15 years of experence in my industry
i am one of the technoelete

tee hee heee

Funny, I mistook you for an English professor.

 

[unodem51]

I support Obama because he is real change in American ideology. Republican trickle down, privitized government hasn't worked. McCain says that raising taxes will cost us jobs, yet with the Bush tax cuts in place for the last 8 yrs. we have lost 700,000 jobs this year. That is fuzzy math and voodoo economics. Privatizing portions of our military has lead to the electricution of our troops in the shoddy showers and soldiers having to pay for meals. War for profit is a bad idea. McCain was front and center in another financial bailout with the savings and loans fiasco and the Keating five. What lessons has McCain learned from that experience? McCain has joked about bombing Iran and criticized Obama for wanting to talk to our adversaries. That's not change we can or should beleive in. Obama is right, eight is enough. If you want to reinstate the draft, kill the right to organize, deny women the right to choose, take no real steps toward energy independence, make your medical insurance premiums more unaffordable, privatize social security then by all means vote for John McCain.

 

[Pandora]

I support Obama because he is real change in American ideology. Republican trickle down, privitized government hasn't worked. McCain says that raising taxes will cost us jobs, yet with the Bush tax cuts in place for the last 8 yrs. we have lost 700,000 jobs this year. That is fuzzy math and voodoo economics. Privatizing portions of our military has lead to the electricution of our troops in the shoddy showers and soldiers having to pay for meals. War for profit is a bad idea. McCain was front and center in another financial bailout with the savings and loans fiasco and the Keating five. What lessons has McCain learned from that experience? McCain has joked about bombing Iran and criticized Obama for wanting to talk to our adversaries. That's not change we can or should beleive in. Obama is right, eight is enough. If you want to reinstate the draft, kill the right to organize, deny women the right to choose, take no real steps toward energy independence, make your medical insurance premiums more unaffordable, privatize social security then by all means vote for John McCain.

What state do you live in ?

 

[GenSeneca]

I support Obama because he is real change in American ideology. Republican trickle down, privitized government hasn't worked. McCain says that raising taxes will cost us jobs, yet with the Bush tax cuts in place for the last 8 yrs. we have lost 700,000 jobs this year. That is fuzzy math and voodoo economics. Privatizing portions of our military has lead to the electricution of our troops in the shoddy showers and soldiers having to pay for meals. War for profit is a bad idea. McCain was front and center in another financial bailout with the savings and loans fiasco and the Keating five. What lessons has McCain learned from that experience? McCain has joked about bombing Iran and criticized Obama for wanting to talk to our adversaries. That's not change we can or should beleive in. Obama is right, eight is enough. If you want to reinstate the draft, kill the right to organize, deny women the right to choose, take no real steps toward energy independence, make your medical insurance premiums more unaffordable, privatize social security then by all means vote for John McCain.

While this post has all the halmarks of a drive by bomb thrower who has no intention of posting again, much less substantiating any claims... I hope Uno comes back and wants to have a discussion that goes deeper than talking points.

Uno, where would you put yourself politically?

For myself, I am: Capitalist, Libertarian, Conservative

 

[TruthAboveAll]

While this post has all the halmarks of a drive by bomb thrower who has no intention of posting again, much less substantiating any claims... I hope Uno comes back and wants to have a discussion that goes deeper than talking points.

Uno, where would you put yourself politically?

For myself, I am: Capitalist, Libertarian, Conservative

IF Uno does come back, he/she will probably claim to be Independent/Centrist or some such. Progressive possibly. The tripe cited in the post is false, and rife with cliches from the left.

 

[unodem51]

While this post has all the halmarks of a drive by bomb thrower who has no intention of posting again, much less substantiating any claims... I hope Uno comes back and wants to have a discussion that goes deeper than talking points.

Uno, where would you put yourself politically?

For myself, I am: Capitalist, Libertarian, Conservative

No drive-by, I just work for a living. I am a proud Liberal just like Jesus. Republican Hypocrasy sickens me. Anyone who espouses less government controls yet seek to over turn Roe v. Wade is a Hypocrate. Or how about wanting to get rid of collective bargaining. Tom "the Hammer" Delay once said in Siapan that their economic model of forced labor was what Republicans were trying to institute in America. John McCain's tactic of trying to tie Obama to Roger Ailes is pathetic. Why not focus on Sarah Palins ties to the Alaskan Independence Party? Doesn't sound like Tod or Sarah love America.

 

[GenSeneca]

No drive-by, I just work for a living. I am a proud Liberal just like Jesus. Republican Hypocrasy sickens me. Anyone who espouses less government controls yet seek to over turn Roe v. Wade is a Hypocrate. Or how about wanting to get rid of collective bargaining. Tom "the Hammer" Delay once said in Siapan that their economic model of forced labor was what Republicans were trying to institute in America. John McCain's tactic of trying to tie Obama to Roger Ailes is pathetic. Why not focus on Sarah Palins ties to the Alaskan Independence Party? Doesn't sound like Tod or Sarah love America.

1. You don't notice all the hypocrisy on your side?
2. You are not a Socialist, you just support them?
3. What do you do for a living? (I ask because... I'm betting you're paid by Government)
4. As a Liberal, doesn't it sicken you to see the Dems attacking Capitalsm?
5. As a supporter of Democrats, aren't you sickened by their attacks on our Military?

 

[CONSERVERATIVETOO]

After over two Centuries of the "AMERICAN EXPERIENCE",producing a Nation and a Society that is the ENVY of the entire World, are we now ready to chuck our entire system and put in place a SOCIALIST/ MARXIST form of Government? Folks , Obama can hide what he is , he can take shield behind a willing Radical Leftist Media , He can call the millions screaming SOLICALISM RACIST BUT FELLOW CITIZENS OBAMA is JUST PLAIN BAD for AMERICA. HE is BAD for AMERICA not because he is BLACK but because OBAMA is a SOCIALIST!! His thinking will DESTROY AMERICA . Did YOU send your children off to war , this war or any past war , to DEFEND SOCIALISM? NO, YOU DID NOT!!! IT IS TIME YOU HONOR THEIR SERVICE AND SAVE AMERICA!! VOTE NO !! ON OBAMA , VOTE NO!!! on SOCIALSM!