Obama announces that the **GOP** will 'cripple' America

[pocketfullofshells]

obama bragged he was going to build an army as big as our military and equally funded.

you know that, why shouldn't we believe him when he says it

and what did you smoke?

 

[Pandora]

and what did you smoke?

are you saying he did not say this?

 

[Openmind]

are you saying he did not say this?

Once again, you are taking something totally out of context!

Obama said that in order to fight terrorism within our land, we needed an army of civilians. What kind of junky sites do you go to to get such ridiculous spin on things? Let me give you a another, more likely spin on those words: he wnted the equivalent of a "neighborhood watch" with enough support and reporting abilities ( including technology) to detect and prevent acts of terrorism, including " lon wolf" terrorism.

Is it something like "the end is near?"

 

[Pandora]

Once again, you are taking something totally out of context!

Obama said that in order to fight terrarium in our land, we needed an army of civilians. What kind of junky sites do you go to to get such ridiculous spin on things?

Is it something like "the end is near?"

no, I don't frequent that site, is it any good?

I got it the old fashioned way, I watched his speech and heard the quote live when he made it

 

[Pandora]

and what did you smoke?

so.. are you saying he never said this?

 

[pocketfullofshells]

no, I don't frequent that site, is it any good?

I got it the old fashioned way, I watched his speech and heard the quote live when he made it

and you think this meant a actual army to go to war with our other army and take the guns away? If so you really have lost it. Yep he just came out in a speech and said I am going to built a secret army to go after the people of the US...and no one thought much of it...or the fact he said he was doing it in a speech?

 

[Openmind]

no, I don't frequent that site, is it any good?

I got it the old fashioned way, I watched his speech and heard the quote live when he made it

Really? You must have a super memory, remembering his "exact" words out of a long speech that happened 3 years ago, when he was only a candidate to the presidency!

Do you remember other quotes he made last week?

 

[Openmind]

obama bragged he was going to build an army as big as our military and equally funded.

you know that, why shouldn't we believe him when he says it

Just in case you are interested in the REAL meaning of what he said, and the context, here is a FactCheck.org conclusion of this "urban legend" that was carefully cultivated by the likes of Glen Beck and other "dependable" right wing sources:

this stems from an interview that Republican Rep. Broun of Georgia gave to The Associated Press Nov. 10. The story carried a headline, "Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship." It said that Broun "fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship." And it quoted him this way:**

Rep. Paul Broun, Nov. 10: It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he’s [Obama's] the one who proposed this national security force. … That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did.

Similar claims have been circulating in right-leaning blogs and conservative Web sites ever since July, when Obama made a single reference to a "civilian national security force" in a campaign speech in Colorado. Obama’s detractors make much of his expansive (and exaggerated) description of such a force as being "just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the U.S. military. They also ignore the context.

Obama was not talking about a "security force" with guns or police powers. He was talking specifically about expanding AmeriCorps and the Peace Corps and the USA Freedom Corps, which is the volunteer initiative launched by the Bush administration after the attacks of 9/11, and about increasing the number of trained Foreign Service officers who populate U.S. embassies overseas.

Here is the relevant portion of what Obama actually said, with the sentences quoted selectively by Broun and others in bold.

Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem*– they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.

Does that sound like a force that could kick down your door in the middle of the night and haul you off to a Gulag or concentration camp? You decide.

– Brooks Jackson

Sources
Evans, Ben. “Georgia congressman warns of Obama dictatorship.” The Associated Press, 10 Nov. 2008.

“Sen. Barack Obama delivers remarks at a campaign event, Colorado Springs, CO.” CQ

Transcriptions, 2 July 2008.

 

[steveox]

This is what Liberals have done to America for over 50 years

 

[Pandora]

and you think this meant a actual army to go to war with our other army and take the guns away? If so you really have lost it. Yep he just came out in a speech and said I am going to built a secret army to go after the people of the US...and no one thought much of it...or the fact he said he was doing it in a speech?

I dont know what he meant, but it was a strange strange statement, that is why I remembered it

 

[Pandora]

Just in case you are interested in the REAL meaning of what he said, and the context, here is a FactCheck.org conclusion of this "urban legend" that was carefully cultivated by the likes of Glen Beck and other "dependable" right wing sources:


Transcriptions, 2 July 2008.

We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

This is the part I was talking about and bothers me. Though like most of his premisses it never came to pass so that is a good thing.

 

[Pandora]

Really? You must have a super memory, remembering his "exact" words out of a long speech that happened 3 years ago, when he was only a candidate to the presidency!

Do you remember other quotes he made last week?

I try to listen to all his speeches unlike the left did when President Bush was in office.

But I only remember long term the things that really bothers me.

Another thing he said that bothered me greatly was that we cant eat what ever we want and think other countries are going to be ok with it, we cant keep our thermostats at 72 degrees if we live in the tropics or the tundra and we cant drive our SUV's around when ever we feel like it.

But he himself keeps the white house hot enough to grow orchids because he likes it hot and that is ok

He serves 100 dollar a pound Kobe beef to his guests and thats fine

Hell he can fly pizza makers in from St Louis, Missouri to make 40 pizza's because obama can only have the best of course

but we had better watch it and drive a tiny car, keep the heat off and eat what ever it is michelle thinks we should even though they do what ever they want, at our cost.

 

[Openmind]

I try to listen to all his speeches unlike the left did when President Bush was in office.

But I only remember long term the things that really bothers me.

Another thing he said that bothered me greatly was that we cant eat what ever we want and think other countries are going to be ok with it, we cant keep our thermostats at 72 degrees if we live in the tropics or the tundra and we cant drive our SUV's around when ever we feel like it.

But he himself keeps the white house hot enough to grow orchids because he likes it hot and that is ok

He serves 100 dollar a pound Kobe beef to his guests and thats fine
Hell he can fly pizza makers in from St Louis, Missouri to make 40 pizza's because obama can only have the best of course

but we had better watch it and drive a tiny car, keep the heat off and eat what ever it is michelle thinks we should even though they do what ever they want, at our cost.

Funny how,with such an amazing memory, you managed to remember only the few words that have been repeated over and over in every right wing extremist media with the spin of propaganda, But you can't remember the setting, or the words that preceded and followed that short quote and gave it it's REAL meaning within context!

And the rest of your posts just regurgitates a series of similar canned propaganda spin!

With all due respect for your amazing long term " memory ,". It doesn't vouch well for your own critical thinking and freedom of mind!

Do I dare say so? I don' t buy it!

 

[dogtowner]

Funny how,with such an amazing memory, you managed to remember only the few words that have been repeated over and over in every right wing extremist media with the spin of propaganda, But you can't remember the setting, or the words that preceded and followed that short quote and gave it it's REAL meaning within context!

And the rest of your posts just regurgitates a series of similar canned propaganda spin!

With all due respect for your amazing long term " memory ,". It doesn't vouch well for your own critical thinking and freedom of mind!

Do I dare say so? I don' t buy it!

When something this troubling gets said you damn well better pay attention.

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

You want that kind of force pointed at you ? There is a reason that the military is prohibited from domestic activity.

 

[Openmind]

When something this troubling gets said you damn well better pay attention.



You want that kind of force pointed at you ? There is a reason that the military is prohibited from domestic activity.

Did you even READ or LISTEN to the whole speech? I provided the transcript in a previous post, as well as the analysis (and the refuttal of the crazy spin by FactCheck!).

Are you telling me that you are against the Peace Corps also?

Once again, your myopy and astigmatism is keeping you from trying to grasp what is a lie and what is the truth.