Pidgey
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Time constraints, sorry. You, however, are NOT a pleasant person to talk to--you tend to be somewhat less than neighborly with a lot of your posts. That said... turnabout is fair play.Brilliant come back. How can I argue against such a quick minded response. Please, please, no more...
Futures contracts cover quite a long range of time. You can buy futures contracts on oil for five years from now if you want to. What you saw as the spike last year was spot market prices. Before you start typing away without reading anymore, I'll accede that some of the big spike last year was due to speculation by some folks that shouldn't be "in the oil futures market".Almost too dumb of a question to answer. 1) The recent (last Summer) high price of gasoline was not due to demand out pacing supply. If it were, there would have been signs on gas stations that said: "Sorry, out of gas." There were no signs as there were during the OPEC supply shut down of the '70's
2) As I suggested in a post above, (if you had only read it), if the only entities that were allowed to purchase crude oil were refineries, (by law, as at one time Americans were not allowed to own gold), the speculators could not create an artificially high (but false) demand for oil. 3) Thus, the price of oil would reflect the true demand and it would not result in $4.00+ per gallon oil.
But that doesn't mean that all of the speculators were working that way or that speculation is wrong. For a very long term market like oil, it's a necessity. As oil production from a given field somewhat follows a bell curve, it's just a geological fact that new wells have to be constantly drilled and new fields constantly found. There's a plethora of things that have to happen to make that work. Mineral rights; surface rights; easements; contracts; exploration; surveying; testing for production economics; drilling for production; design & fabrication of upstream production processing; design & fabrication of gathering; delivery to refinement centers... that's a heckuva' long chain involving YEARS between the initial planning and development. That IS speculation at it's finest because you're literally out billions of dollars before ever one lousy drop makes it to market from a new and truly substantial field.
And what kinds of things can trip you up? Local wars or destabilizing politics, steel prices, energy prices, changing tax legislation (it's not all in the US afterall... ), availability of necessary materials due to a million factors, changing CURRENCY valuations... to name just a VERY few.
The true demand for and production of oil has roughly followed a ~2%/yr increase up until 2005. "All liquids" grew a little but the period from 2005 to 2008 didn't see as much of a production rise. RCO (Regular Conventional Oil) began its terminal decline. A lot of the remaining stuff in several areas has undesirable components in it like heavy metals, sulfur and is just plain heavier crude. It's axiomatic: you always pick the low-hanging fruit first and leave the more difficult stuff for last.