"Native Americans"??

[pocketfullofshells]

And I'm tired of trying to explain things to obstinate obsequious asshats. If you're not Native American, it's none of your damned business, so let it go. You're starting to sound like one of those kids that rides the short bus and drools all over himself.

you can only guess my view of him as he is not even on my side of the political spectrum lol

 

[Bunz]

Instead of being degraded by designations for you thought up by other people, all of which contain varying degrees of offensiveness, why don't YOU think up such a word and announce it?

Let me think about it....wait for it...Im thinking of one. Im gonna go with Native American. It works for me, my family, and every Native that I know. Give it a rest.

YOU be making the argument that I am.

Much like most other sides of a political discussion, I wont be making the same argument as you, nor should I.

 

[Libsmasher]

Let me think about it....wait for it...Im thinking of one. Im gonna go with Native American. It works for me, my family, and every Native that I know. Give it a rest.

Like I said in the beginning, that's exactly same level of idiocy as if everything were reversed, and indigenous euros ended up being called "Native Cherokees" - leave aside that it has the preposterous implication that non-american-indians born in this country are not natives.

 

[Federal Farmer]

As per Bunz' request, I will keep this polite.

My dear sir:

You have vindicated my allegation as to the purpose of the "native american" usage with your, uh......uh......excited statements. I have ALREADY said "indian" was a misnomer - I only use it in the absence of any lexically and historically proper word, hopefully one derived from an american indian language. You provide no link for your claim as to the origin of the malapropism. As for your claim that american indians "deserve" super-legitimacy - that is manifestly ridiculous. This country was built by white men. (When the first whites came here, american indians hadn't even discovered the wheel, something in use by whites since the 4th millenium BC. )

You're sounding more and more like a LIB every day. Attempting to spin someone's words to mean something they never said, so let's try this again.

You obviously know even less about this subject than you do about the qualifications for someone to be awarded the Silver Star, so again, let me be clear, IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, SO BUTT OUT.

Also, I didn't say that Native Americans DID deserved "super legitimacy" status, I said, IF anyone DOES deserve it, Native Americans do. Since, in America, NOBODY gets "super legitimacy" status, then it's a moot point.

Also, your observation concerning a "lexically and historically proper word, hopefully one derived from an american indian language" would automatically preclude one from any of the other Native American cultures, and since the various tribes did not share a common language, and would, in essence, GIVE "super legitimacy" status to the peoples the name was derived from. You also insist on using a term that you yourself claim to be a misnomer, NOT very bright.

To put it simply, your entire premise is flawed, boorish, and not well thought out at all, but then again, that seems to be about par for you, so why don't you stick to being a good little Rushbot, and spend your time regurgitating his silly mantra about the 'evil' liberals, and leave subjects like this to people who might actually have something intelligent to say about it.

 

[Libsmasher]

You're sounding more and more like a LIB every day. Attempting to spin someone's words to mean something they never said, so let's try this again.

You obviously know even less about this subject than you do about the qualifications for someone to be awarded the Silver Star, so again, let me be clear, IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, SO BUTT OUT.

It is my business. It's a PC designation that tries to impute superstatus to indians, and also give guilt trips in whites for "stealing the "indian's land". This pee see playing with people's minds has bad consequences - eq, it's made billionaires out of a handful of indians in california, by giving them a gambling monopoly, while the state is ready to go bankrupt from wild spending by the liberal state legislature.

Also, I didn't say that Native Americans DID deserved "super legitimacy" status, I said, IF anyone DOES deserve it, Native Americans do. Since, in America, NOBODY gets "super legitimacy" status, then it's a moot point.

No, blacks DO have supercitizen status, the very CONSTITUTION is swept away on their behalf. And american indians ARE getting all kinds of privileges, but deserve squat. The indian reservations should be dismantled and the land granted to the tribes as normal property. American indians need to stop living in the nineteenth century.

Also, your observation concerning a "lexically and historically proper word, hopefully one derived from an american indian language" would automatically preclude one from any of the other Native American cultures, and since the various tribes did not share a common language, and would, in essence, GIVE "super legitimacy" status to the peoples the name was derived from. You also insist on using a term that you yourself claim to be a misnomer, NOT very bright.

I'm aware of this problem, and the indians should solve it themselves, but a designation from ANY indian language is better than a completely buffonish Pee Seeism thought up by some white lib.

To put it simply, your entire premise is flawed, boorish, and not well thought out at all, but then again, that seems to be about par for you, so why don't you stick to being a good little Rushbot, and spend your time regurgitating his silly mantra about the 'evil' liberals, and leave subjects like this to people who might actually have something intelligent to say about it.

Oooooo, Chief Farmer on warpath!

Whoosh! Whoosh! Whooshh!

Omigosh! Arrows!!!

 

[Federal Farmer]

It is my business. It's a PC designation that tries to impute superstatus to indians, and also give guilt trips in whites for "stealing the "indian's land". This pee see playing with people's minds has bad consequences - eq, it's made billionaires out of a handful of indians in california, by giving them a gambling monopoly, while the state is ready to go bankrupt from wild spending by the liberal state legislature.

What are you, the PC Police? And who gives a rip what happens on the reservations, they're SOVEREIGN NATIONS that the US has NO control over. If they want to have gambling, and Californication doesn't, so what? If Cali wants that money, then they'd better get the stick out of their butts and build some casino's!

No, blacks DO have supercitizen status, the very CONSTITUTION is swept away on their behalf.

I'm glad to know that, maybe in a couple more decades we'll have ALL of our "supercitizens" in prisons and you'll finally be happy.

And american indians ARE getting all kinds of privileges, but deserve squat. The indian reservations should be dismantled and the land granted to the tribes as normal property. American indians need to stop living in the nineteenth century.

Have you ever been on a Reservation? What "privileges" are they getting? The "privilege" of living in a run down cracker box with holes in the roof and no running water? Yeah, they're living SO high on the hog. Oh, and what business is it of yours HOW they live? I thought you were supposed to be a conservative, and conservatives are supposed to believe in LEAVING PEOPLE ALONE TO LIVE THEIR OWN LIVES.

I'm aware of this problem, and the indians should solve it themselves, but a designation from ANY indian language is better than a completely buffonish Pee Seeism thought up by some white lib.

Uh huh, white lib, in 1918, gotcha.

(idiota)

 

[pocketfullofshells]

You're sounding more and more like a LIB every day. Attempting to spin someone's words to mean something they never said, so let's try this again.

I am insulted that you would try to compare this guy with a Liberal. He is on your side, don't try to pawn him off on us.

you should see in briliant Military mind at work on Iran , it would be funny if not for the fact I know to many who think like him about it.

 

[Libsmasher]

FF, I'll respond soon - going to the lake. (Actually, I'll CRUSH your post. )

 

[Libsmasher]

I am insulted that you would try to compare this guy with a Liberal. He is on your side, don't try to pawn him off on us.

you should see in briliant Military mind at work on Iran , it would be funny if not for the fact I know to many who think like him about it.

His comment was ironic, dimwit. (Borrow a dictionary and look up "ironic".)

 

[pocketfullofshells]

His comment was ironic, dimwit. (Borrow a dictionary and look up "ironic".)

and mine was a joke...tard

 

[Federal Farmer]

I am insulted that you would try to compare this guy with a Liberal. He is on your side, don't try to pawn him off on us.

No insult intended PFOS.

Again, I recognize the differences between Libtard, Liberal, and liberal. You are a liberal (little "L"), and even though we may disagree on certain things, at least you're able to elucidate your arguments fairly succinctly. Liberals, on the other hand, generally fail in that regard and have to resort to twisting someones words in an attempt to save face when it's been pointed out to them that they haven't thought their position through (hence, Liberal with their thought process, and Liberal with their definitions). Libtards are an entirely different species, and are very similar to Rushbots in that they're utterly incapable of thinking for themselves, and can only regurgitate the pablum they've been spoon-fed by their masters. Frankly, if he's on "our" side, we have bigger problems than I realized.

Libs problem is that I took a stance in defense of Gen. Clark's Silver Star and Purple Heart, and he completely ignored the fact that I pointed out, quite clearly, that none of his Bronze Stars were awarded in keeping with the letter and spirit of the requirements for those Awards (it would appear that Clark's first CO was a bit "Liberal" with the definition of "heroic action", and managed to apply it to paperwork, in a comfy office, in Saigon). No, he took the fact that someone, with military experience, in a combat zone, might have a better comprehension of what does and does not meet the requirements for the Awards, as an affront and chose instead to turn his attack on me for having the temerity to disagree with his Limbaughesque "logic".

Did you notice that he failed, repeatedly, to produce even one member of then Lt. Clark's unit who was willing to testify that Clark DIDN'T deserve those awards? Seems kind of strange that when Kerry's Purple Hearts came into question, there was no shortage of former members of his units to come forward and say that they were bogus. When the question was raised about President Bush being "AWOL", several former members of his unit quickly came forward to denounce those slanders, and he immediately ordered the full release of his 214 file to prove the allegations were false, but when it comes to Clark's decorations, <chirp,chirp. chirp,chirp> NOTHING. Nobody has come forward to dispute his Awards at all, but Lib has fallen under the influence of the age old logical fallacy that "absence of proof is proof of absence".

Since then, he's taken every opportunity to be completely disagreeable with me, and therefore I am compelled to deal with him as I would a small annoying child. Try to explain something to him, but when he becomes willfull, simply smack him on the butt and send him to his room. If he IS on "our" side, it would do him well to review some of our discussions, where even though we've disagreed, we've managed to keep it civil, or better yet, he might want to look at some of the discussions between Gen Sen and myself where we have disagreed, or had varying view points, and have still managed to keep it civil.

 

[Federal Farmer]

FF, I'll respond soon - going to the lake. (Actually, I'll CRUSH your post. )

Yeah, OK, what-EVER.

 

[Libsmasher]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libsmasher
It is my business. It's a PC designation that tries to impute superstatus to indians, and also give guilt trips in whites for "stealing the "indian's land". This pee see playing with people's minds has bad consequences - eq, it's made billionaires out of a handful of indians in california, by giving them a gambling monopoly, while the state is ready to go bankrupt from wild spending by the liberal state legislature.

What are you, the PC Police? And who gives a rip what happens on the reservations, they're SOVEREIGN NATIONS that the US has NO control over.

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No, you aren't sovereign nations. But wait - maybe I can declare my back yard a sovereign nation.

If they want to have gambling, and Californication doesn't, so what? If Cali wants that money, then they'd better get the stick out of their butts and build some casino's!

I agree, but this state is full of PC liberals who gave them the monopoly. While the poor, oppressed indians wear armani suits and drive lexuses, the state is drowning in red ink.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libsmasher
No, blacks DO have supercitizen status, the very CONSTITUTION is swept away on their behalf.

I'm glad to know that, maybe in a couple more decades we'll have ALL of our "supercitizens" in prisons and you'll finally be happy.

No, they'll all have "graduated" from Harvard - like Obama.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libsmasher
And american indians ARE getting all kinds of privileges, but deserve squat. The indian reservations should be dismantled and the land granted to the tribes as normal property. American indians need to stop living in the nineteenth century

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Have you ever been on a Reservation? What "privileges" are they getting?

In california, they run all the casinos. As everyone knows, that is a license to print money. California has gigantic political interests - the media, agriculture, aerospace. But you know what group gives the most campaign money to politicians? Those poor disposessed tee pee dwellers. Somehow, they manage to contribute tens of millions of dollars that they saved from hunting buffalos.

The "privilege" of living in a run down cracker box with holes in the roof and no running water? Yeah, they're living SO high on the hog

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If people want to sit on their ass in the middle of nowhere and make beads for a living, what should they expect?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Libsmasher
I'm aware of this problem, and the indians should solve it themselves, but a designation from ANY indian language is better than a completely buffonish Pee Seeism thought up by some white lib.

Uh huh, white lib, in 1918, gotcha.

It's used >>>NOW<<< as a Pee See term of political manipulation.

 

[Libsmasher]

and mine was a joke...tard

So was mine......megabrain.

 

[Federal Farmer]

No, you aren't sovereign nations. But wait - maybe I can declare my back yard a sovereign nation.

I've never lived on a reservation, mainly because my people REFUSED to go on the Trail of Tears. As to the sovereignty of the Reservations, tell that to the FBI the next time they have to ASK PERMISSION to enter. As for your back yard, well, if you can get the Federal Government to sign a treaty with you and have your back yard named a Reservation, then I guess you'll be able to have your own Casino too.

I agree, but this state is full of PC liberals who gave them the monopoly. While the poor, oppressed indians wear armani suits and drive lexuses, the state is drowning in red ink.

You're a Californicator? Then you must be part of the "PC liberal" problem! Don't cry to me about Californications problems. If you want Casino's, tell your Governator about it.

No, they'll all have "graduated" from Harvard - like Obama.

Great. Maybe then they'll actually be contributing to society instead of filling up the prisons.

In california, they run all the casinos. As everyone knows, that is a license to print money. California has gigantic political interests - the media, agriculture, aerospace. But you know what group gives the most campaign money to politicians? Those poor disposessed tee pee dwellers. Somehow, they manage to contribute tens of millions of dollars that they saved from hunting buffalos.

So what if they own and run the Casinos? If Californication was really worried about their red ink, they'd grow some brains and quit pissing away their money on every give away program in the world. Damn boy, you're just jealous because the NATIVE AMERICANS have shown that they're smarter than you poor dumb "round eyes".

If people want to sit on their ass in the middle of nowhere and make beads for a living, what should they expect?

They didn't, so they built CASINO'S!

It's used >>>NOW<<< as a Pee See term of political manipulation.

And it has been for 90 YEARS. NOW all of a sudden you have a problem with it, and you're not even Native American. Well WHOOP-TEE-DOO. Thanks for speaking up for us so soon. I guess you'll start complaining about the term "GRID" in about 60 years or so too?