Krugman: Obama Liquidates Himself

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So I am confused Popeye...why aren't you for a spending freeze, that our President has suggested...it's not like freezing everything straight across the board. I would think that setting this as a guideline for the impending budget discussion would be an enhancement...those budgets wouldn't have to submit any paper work for the budget committee to have to review...they won't be getting any budget cuts but it will just save everyone time and paper work to not have to have a budget submitted for next year: attach a single page referencing the last years allotment and then they can move right along to the other area and line items that need to have cut backs!

In my area the local cities/counties/school districts/state agencies are all doing exactly that...why shouldn't our Federal Budgets be treated any differently?


If he wants to freeze discretionary spending thats alright but cuts to actually reduce that deficit would be far better.

I actually don't care for some panel to do this. This is the job of the Congress. If the administration wishes to opine on the matter, so much te better.

The president campaigned on the promise that he (obviously someone in his administration, not himself) would be going through the budget looking for opportunities to reduce expenditures.

Its decades past time to pull out the chainsaw and cut this budget down to size. While the pols are afraid of the repurcussions they miss the possibility that people just might be glad for it.
 
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I am confused Popeye...why aren't you for a spending freeze, that our President has suggested...it's not like freezing everything straight across the board.
Popeye was upset that military spending was exempt from the freeze. His anger is not at the budget problem, not with our deficits and debt, his problem is with the US military being spread across the globe and "occupying" two foreign countries. His problem is with military spending.
 
Well, maybe I shouldn't be so sensitive about the President...but it sures seems such a huge step backwards and brings out the eternal small mindedness in some that they can't argue his 'F'ups but they can define the man because of his race or color of his skin!
{{shrugs my shoulders}}


I prefer the "content of his character".
 
Its decades past time to pull out the chainsaw and cut this budget down to size.

So true...

In the last ten years, the federal budget has more than doubled. If we double our federal budget again over the next ten years, and again after that, America will quickly collapse under the weight of our debts.
 
Senate rejects task force to tackle deficit

Vote comes hours after new estimate of $1.35 trillion deficit for 2010

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WASHINGTON - The Senate Tuesday rejected a plan backed by President Barack Obama to create a bipartisan task force to tackle the federal deficit this year despite glaring new figures showing the enormity of the red-ink threat.
The special deficit panel would have attempted to produce a plan combining tax cuts and spending curbs that would have been voted on after the midterm elections. The measure went down because anti-tax Republicans joined with Democrats who were wary of being railroaded into cutting Social Security and Medicare.
The Senate vote to kill the deficit task force came just hours after the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office predicted a $1.35 trillion deficit for this year as the economy continues to slowly recover from the recession.
"Yet another indication that Congress is more concerned with the next election than the next generation," said Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., a sponsor of the plan.

The budget deficits facing Obama and Congress are large and intractable, and the CBO prediction for 2010 is roughly equal to last year's record $1.4 trillion ocean of red ink. That means the government is borrowing to cover 40 percent of the cost of its programs.

The report predicts a sluggish economic recovery and continued high unemployment — which presages big political problems for President Barack Obama and his Democratic allies heading into the midterm elections.

The report sees unemployment averaging 10.1 percent this year as the economy grows by just over 2 percent. It would grow only slightly more next year with an unemployment rate of 9.5 percent.

"CBO expects that the pace of economic recovery will be slow," said agency chief Douglas Elmendorf.

The latest estimates also project that the deficit will drop to $980 billion next year and $480 billion in five years — but only if a host of tax cuts enacted under President George W. Bush are allowed to expire. Most budget experts see deficits nearing or exceeding $1 trillion each year over the next decade once tax cuts and other policies are factored in.

It's a sobering reminder of the fundamental imbalance of the federal government's budget that comes just days before Obama's Feb. 1 budget submission. The White House says Obama will propose a three-year freeze on domestic agency budgets, though the savings would barely make a dent. It hasn't said whether Obama will proposes tax hikes or cuts to spiraling benefit programs such as Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

The 2010 deficit figure is in line with previous estimates and would be less, marginally, than last year's $1.4 trillion shortfall. But plans afoot on Capitol Hill for a new jobs bill and a coming Obama request for war funds would add to the total.
The spending freeze, expected to be proposed by Obama during the State of the Union address on Wednesday, would apply to a relatively small portion of the federal budget, affecting a $477 billion pot of money available for domestic agencies whose budgets are approved by Congress each year. Some of those agencies could get increases, others would have to face cuts; such programs got an almost 10 percent increase this year. The federal budget total was $3.5 trillion.
The freeze on so-called discretionary programs would have only a modest impact on the deficit. The steps needed to really tackle such huge deficits include tax increases and curbs on benefit programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

That was the idea behind the Obama-backed plan to pass a law to create a special task force to come up with a plan to curb the spiraling budget deficit. Now, Obama may create a weaker version by a presidential order. But unlike the plan rejected Tuesday, there's no way to force a Senate vote.

Supporters actually garnered 53 votes for the plan co-sponsored by Gregg and Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D. But 60 votes were required under special floor rules. Thirty-six Democrats and independent Joe Lieberman of Connecticut voted for the plan as did 16 Republicans.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35077901/ns/politics/

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So I am confused Popeye...why aren't you for a spending freeze, that our President has suggested...it's not like freezing everything straight across the board. I would think that setting this as a guideline for the impending budget discussion would be an enhancement...those budgets wouldn't have to submit any paper work for the budget committee to have to review...they won't be getting any budget cuts but it will just save everyone time and paper work to not have to have a budget submitted for next year: attach a single page referencing the last years allotment and then they can move right along to the other area and line items that need to have cut backs!

In my area the local cities/counties/school districts/state agencies are all doing exactly that...why shouldn't our Federal Budgets be treated any differently?

This whole thing seems like a political gimmick to me. A reaction to MA, and being done to placate independents and blue dogs..
 
So true...

In the last ten years, the federal budget has more than doubled. If we double our federal budget again over the next ten years, and again after that, America will quickly collapse under the weight of our debts.


I think we within sight of being there already.
 
So true...

In the last ten years, the federal budget has more than doubled. If we double our federal budget again over the next ten years, and again after that, America will quickly collapse under the weight of our debts.

Yeah sure..when Republicans are OUT of power, they spend all their time screaming about "big government"...but when they're IN power, they spend like drunken sailors.

Kind of hypocritical, don't you think?
 
This whole thing seems like a political gimmick to me. A reaction to MA, and being done to placate independents and blue dogs..
And a last ditch straw attempt it well maybe...but when you have this going on>>>
WASHINGTON - The Senate Tuesday rejected a plan backed by President Barack Obama to create a bipartisan task force to tackle the federal deficit this year despite glaring new figures showing the enormity of the red-ink threat.
Then exactly what other options are left for him to do:confused:
 
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