Kosovo

the thing about Islam is that it often gets confused with individual muslims.

Thank you for your understanding...I want to make some things sure, I do not hate Islam or all muslims around the globe. God created them as he created us.But what I should say, or what term I should use for former nazis and now terrorist drug dealers?
Now they want to ban me...ok
In city of Novi Pazar thousands of muslims protested against Kosovo ind. they are ashamed of their nazi past and want to live in peace, I have respect for these kind of people...also 30.000 loyal Albanians have been driven out of Kosovo or muredered by KLA
look what stands on this forum..on topic on Osama and now they want to ban me for writing naked truth on this forum:mad: :eek:

No. The world is just confused and misdirected. He wants peace, love, freedom, and happiness just like the rest of us. He is ready for amends, and like America, and well, all of us, distraught morally. God forgive him, have mercy, and bless him, as well as the rest of us.
 
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Why wouldn't the Serbs let the Kosova muslims live in peace?

We have, 300.000 imigrated illegaly from Albania and they all find their home in Serbian Kosovo and jobs...
Serbs will not let separatists live in peace and muslim nazis who destroy holy monasteries, also you need to understand that drug dealers from Kosovo want that country to brake away.
Kosovo Albanians are the biggest drug dealers in this world my friend. They pay for cover up their crimes with drug money. This USA gov. is corrupted with drug money...:mad:
 
We have, 300.000 imigrated illegaly from Albania and they all find their home in Serbian Kosovo and jobs...
Serbs will not let separatists live in peace and muslim nazis who destroy holy monasteries, also you need to understand that drug dealers from Kosovo want that country to brake away.
Kosovo Albanians are the biggest drug dealers in this world my friend. They pay for cover up their crimes with drug money. This USA gov. is corrupted with drug money...:mad:

I think that is somewhat simplistic. The Serbs opted for nationalism and ethnic cleansing in the formation of their new nation. Not a good idea.
 
Actually, I'm being pretty simplistic in the above post too. The history of the Balkans is long, complex and full of ancient hatreds and grudges that are no longer even rational.

Kosovo was a semi-autonomous region under communism since 1940 and that autonomy continued after the break up. It was a deliberate campaign by Milosovich to bring it into Serbian control. I'm not sure Serbia has any more legitimate claim to it then it does to being autonomous. Might as well let it be autonomous.


From: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~grjan/kosovohistory.html

Milosevic first visited Kosovo in April 1987. Until this time he had said little about Kosovo. At a political rally of Serbs, he was emotionally greeted and literally mobbed by crowds of Serbs demanding action against the Albanians for condoning attacks on Serbs and Montenegrins. As mentioned earlier, the Serbian Presidium for Constitutional Change had already proposed to take away Kosovo's autonomy. This strong expression of anger, frustration and political support for Milisovic caused the Communist Party of Yugoslavia to debate the issue of Kosovo as an ethnic and nationality issue and therefore having implications for all the republics. The Serbian leadership mobilized public opinion under the slogan "No Force can now Stop Serbia's Unification". Street demonstrations were held all over Serbia for the return to Serbian authority of the two autonomous provinces Vojvodina and Kosovo, and an end to "Albanian Genocide" in Kosovo. Milosevic came to power as president of Serbia replacing Stambolic in late 1987.

These and other events had repercussions in Kosovo. In November 1988 a five day demonstration for national liberation and autonomy involving 100,000 people was ignited by a miners strike. In February 1989 another miners strike brought life in Kosovo to a standstill with Albanians abandoning work and school to attend protest meetings. Serbs in Kosovo were terrorized and thousands of Serbs in Belgrade demanded that order be restored in Kosovo. A curfew was imposed and the entire province placed under a state of emergency decree.

The process to abolish Kosovo autonomy began in March 1989 via amendments to the Serbian constitution that gave Serbia direct control over Kosovo. These changes also were approved by the Kosovo Parliament after it had been purged of opponents to centralization. Sometimes anniversaries can come at inopportune times. On June 28, 1989 a huge political rally was held at Kosovo Polje to commemorate the Serbian defeat at the hands of the hated Turks in 1389. Thosands of photos and posters of Milosevic were displayed. Milosevic was generally considered not only in Kosovo, but in all of Serbia as well, as the first Serbian leader since the second world war to hve defended Serbia's interests. Serbia and Serbs have a deep-seated persecution complex that cannot be ignored when dealing with the conflict in Kosovo.
 
I think that is somewhat simplistic. The Serbs opted for nationalism and ethnic cleansing in the formation of their new nation. Not a good idea.

What ethnic cleasing?? To tell you something, our government is corrupted with drug money.
Now wait 50 more years and Texas,California and New Mexico will separate from the USA;)
Germans, Albanian nazi allies wrote this read this report...

German report-NO GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO

May 4, 1999

"A lie can make it half way around the world before truth
has had a chance to put on its galoshes."
- Mark Twain

It appears the professional liars, and the mindless
parots who repeat their stories on TV, on the Internet
and elsewhere, outdid themselves in this war.

Was there "genocide" in Kosovo? Not according to
a year's worth of intelligence reports filed with
German courts by the German Foreign Office. Their
latest opinion:

"Ethnic Albanians in Kosovo have neither
been nor are now exposed to regional or
countrywide group persecution in the Federal
Republic of Yugoslavia."

Opinion of the Upper Administrative Court at MŸnster,
March 11, 1999 (Az: 13A3894/94.A)

Note the date. This assessment was produced by the
German Foreign Office in response to a courts' request
that was deciding the status of Kosovo-Albanian refugees
in Germany. The new Luftwaffe started bombing with its
American and British allies less than two weeks later.

Much, more more material showing that the German
Affairs Office had studied and rejected the Kosovo
genocide claim is available here:

Original source (in German): Junge Welt:
http://www.jungewelt.de/1999/04-24/011.shtml

Passed along by Sam Smith: http://prorev.com/balkan.htm
(English language excerpts)


Spanish experts see no Serbian genocide in Kosovo

El Pais

PABLO ORDAZ, Madrid

Spanish police and forensic experts have not found proof of Genocide in the North of Kosovo. Prisoners [in the prison in] Istok were shot after the bombardment of NATO.

Crimes of War - yes, Genocide - no. This was definitely shown yesterday by the group of Spanish experts formed by officials from the Scientific Police and Civilian Forensics that has just returned from Istok, the Zone in the North of Kosovo under the control of the Legion. {Spanish Legion? - EC} 187 cadavers found and analyzed in 9 villages were buried in individual graves, oriented for the most part toward Mecca out of respect for the religious beliefs of the Albanian Kosovars and without sign of torture. "There were no mass graves. For the most part the Serbs are not as bad as they have been painted," reflected the forensic official Emilio Pйrez Pujo.

That was not the only irony. Also questioned were the successive counts that are being offered by the "allies" on the tragedy of Kosovo. "I have been reading the data from UN said Pйrez Pujol, Director of the Forensic Anatomical Institute of Cartagena. "And they began with 44,000 deaths. Then they lowered it to 22,000. And now they're going with 11,000. I look forward to seeing what the final count will really be." The Spanish Mission which should now submit a report to the International War Crimes Tribunal in The Hague, left from Madrid in the beginning of the month of the August with the feeling that they were going on a road to hell. "They told us that we were going to the worst zone of Kosovo. That we should prepare ourselves to perform more than 2000 autopsies. That we would have to work until the end of November. The result is very different. We only found 187 cadavers and now we are going to return," explained the chief inspector, Juan Lуpez Palafox, responsible for the Office of Anthropology and Scientific Police.

The forensic people, as well as the police, applied their experience in Rwanda in order to determine what occurred in Kosovo at least in that section assigned to the Spanish detachment and they were not able to find evidence of genocide.

"In the former Yugoslavia," said Lуpez Palafox, "crimes were committed, some no doubt horrible, but they derived from the war. In Rwanda we saw 450 corpses of women and children, one on top of another, all with their heads broken open." The Chief Inspector added that in Kosovo, on the contrary, they had found many isolated corpses. "It gives the impression that the Serbs gave a choice to the families to leave their homes. If some member of the clan, for whatever reason, decided to remain, upon returning they were found dead from a shot or by whatever other method." {our emphasis}

One of the members of the Spanish mission shed light on events in the Istok prison, bombed at the end of May by NATO planes. The work, directed by Lуpez Palafox and Pйrez Pujol was aimed at solving the following mystery: who killed the more than 100 prisoners - the bombs of NATO or the bullets of Serbian soldiers? The answer, according to the preliminary studies, is clear. Some of the cadavers analyzed had shrapnel wounds and therefore clearly appeared to have been killed by the bombardment. But others died of clear clean bullet wounds, perhaps from the bullets of machine guns. The most likely thesis is that after the bombardment, the prison inmates tried to flee and were shot by Serbian guards


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_45_15/ai_58050640

read this too

you have been lied to my friend:D media is flooded with drug money to tell lies..


Your previous text. In Kosovo you were not able to live if you are not ethnic Albanian.A drug dealers controled the region, killed, raped and robbed people.
They were killing the police officers in Kosovo too.
Even today the biggest heroin importer to the USA is DAUT KADRIOVSKI, man that was on CIA most wanted list 20 years ago and so is now.
Also Albaninas had big emigration outside of former Yugoslavia. What that nazi emigration did is recruted youg men to fight regime. Any regime was bad for them unless it excepts Kosovo Republic. It was promised to them by nazis in WWII and after they lost war many Albanian nazis emigrated to the West.
They formed their clubs there and forced any worker to pay sum of money once ever month for the cause. If you did not pay you could be shot dead or beaten up. Also on their drug deals they formed allience with Gray Wolves from Turkey, terrorist organisation that killed anybody they wanted.
Also many youg men they recruted were killed in drug dealings and now they come to Kosovo and say how their son was murdered by Serbian secret police. They plat root of hate like that, or they shot on cops from civilian area hopping for some casulties on innocent people.
All that are terrorist tactics.....
 
MUSLIM ETHNIC CLEANSING AND CULTURAL EVOLUTION

Unless the Muslim culture evolves to the advanced stage of assimilating the basic Humanitarian constitutional principles of Separation of Mosque and State, and Freedom of Religion, the historical ethnic cleansing of Muslims from Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist countries shall continue indefinitely.

As independent Muslim nations, Muslims do have the inalienable right to their own culture, however much it conflicts with the cultural values of other nations.

Muslims discontented with life under Muslim culture shall always be free to emigrate to non-Muslim nations.
 
There is a banned/censored Czech documentary about Kosovo, that everyone should see, especially those particularly interested in the issue. It can be viewed here (in six parts):

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6C18Jb-Dg
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZHkgpmkF2w
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu-4J59mGaA
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJtCoajfdQc
Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tku3ujWxi8
Part 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=779qk8ZbCKY

or entire documentary on Megavideo Kosovo, stolen

 
There is a banned/censored Czech documentary about Kosovo, that everyone should see, especially those particularly interested in the issue. It can be viewed here (in six parts):

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp6C18Jb-Dg
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZHkgpmkF2w
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu-4J59mGaA
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJtCoajfdQc
Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tku3ujWxi8
Part 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=779qk8ZbCKY

or entire documentary on Megavideo Kosovo, stolen


Can you give us an idea of what it's all about? I was a close follower of the 99 Kosovo war and know probably as much about it as anyone here. For one thing, the Racak massacre was all phoney to justify the war. If what you offer is all pro-Albanian propaganda then I have no interest in wasting time with it.
 
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In the end, on 18 March 1999, the Albanian, American and British delegation signed what became known as the Rambouillet Accords while the Serbian and Russian delegations refused. The accords called for NATO administration of Kosovo as an autonomous province within Yugoslavia; a force of 30,000 NATO troops to maintain order in Kosovo; an unhindered right of passage for NATO troops on Yugoslav territory, including Kosovo; and immunity for NATO and its agents to Yugoslav law. The American and British delegations must have known that the new version would never be accepted by the Serbs or the Contact Group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambouillet_Accords
There is no country in the world that would accept that document.
 
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