Kimberly Guilfoyle; No Threat To Trump Genetics

[Gabriel_Bell]

You may or may not be an expert on weather where YOU live, but that does not mean that you are an expert on weather 2000 year ago in a part of the world you have never visited. The fact remains that at least half of the Jesus story told in the Bible duplicates the story of many other religious figures, including Isis, Mani, and several Roman emperors, who actually claimed to be descendants from the Roman gods.

 

[the annoying thing]

There is scant evidence that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th. Nearly all serious Biblical scholars agree on that.

I did not claim he was born then now did I I claimed they could and did and still do graze sheep there of the winter.

 

[Boris Norris]

There is scant evidence that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th. Nearly all serious Biblical scholars agree on that.

There's no evidence to believe he ever lived. Jesus is a very common name there. As for that virgin births shit etc. only a fool would believe that.

 

[the annoying thing]

There's no evidence to believe he ever lived. Jesus is a very common name there. As for that virgin births shit etc. only a fool would believe that.

You and Gabe want to be alone

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

There was probably an actual Yeshua ben Josef, aka Jesus. But the tale surrounding him grew in a variety of ways and then met Paul of Tarsus, who was an extremely clever promoter who altered the nature and the focus of the Christian religion far beyond what Jesus taught.

Check out the youtube blogs of Bart Ehrman, I make no claims to being a religious scholar, but Dr Ehrman certainly is one.

 

[Boris Norris]

There was probably an actual Yeshua ben Josef, aka Jesus. But the tale surrounding him grew in a variety of ways and then met Paul of Tarsus, who was an extremely clever promoter who altered the nature and the focus of the Christian religion far beyond what Jesus taught.

Check out the youtube blogs of Bart Ehrman, I make no claims to being a religious scholar, but Dr Ehrman certainly is one.

There are thousands who will focus on items that blend with their beliefs. I'm not one.


I maintain and have yet to be convinced otherwise, Jesus was not from a virgin, did not resurrect or responsible any outrageous claims in any bibles etc.
Theres no reason to believe he ever existed.

 

[the annoying thing]

There are thousands who will focus on items that blend with their beliefs. I'm not one.


I maintain and have yet to be convinced otherwise, Jesus was not from a virgin, did not resurrect or responsible any outrageous claims in any bibles etc.
Theres no reason to believe he ever existed.

gabe is more then likely closer to the truth then you are.

 

[Gabriel_Bell]

Actual virgin birth would only produce a female offspring. So I doubt that one.

The Gospels tell different stories. Paul also has a different perspective on events in Jesus' existence.
The Messiah referred to in the Old Testament was to be a rerun of King David: NOT a son of God.
There is no evidence that there was any census of even the Roman Empire holding a census during Jesus' life.

If a government held a census to tax people, how much sense would it make to require everyone to return to the place where their most famous ancestor lived 1000 years before? Imagine what the turnout would be if you were required to pay your taxes in person at the IRS office where your 15th great grandfather lived. Would any government ever be so stupid as to require that?

There are a lot of scenes in the Bible that are mentioned by only one of the Evangelicals. We are told by Matthew that after the Crucifixion, dead people popped out of their tomb and began to wander about Jerusalem. Strangely, Luke, Mark and John do not bother to mention this.
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We are told that Herod ordered the slaughter of all boy children of 2 years or younger. Yet there is no mention of this in historical accounts. Murdering babies and zombies cruising the streets are impressive and rare occurrences.

I do not deny that the Jesus tale has had a huge impacts on Western Civilization. There is no way of actually proving it to be true, and the Gospels contradict one another. If Jesus wanted his story to be told accurately, he should have written it down himself.

Modern scholarship is way better than ancient Bible study and should be considered by those who are interested in the actual truth.

 

[Boris Norris]

Actual virgin birth would only produce a female offspring. So I doubt that one.

The Gospels tell different stories. Paul also has a different perspective on events in Jesus' existence.
The Messiah referred to in the Old Testament was to be a rerun of King David: NOT a son of God.
There is no evidence that there was any census of even the Roman Empire holding a census during Jesus' life.

If a government held a census to tax people, how much sense would it make to require everyone to return to the place where their most famous ancestor lived 1000 years before? Imagine what the turnout would be if you were required to pay your taxes in person at the IRS office where your 15th great grandfather lived. Would any government ever be so stupid as to require that?

There are a lot of scenes in the Bible that are mentioned by only one of the Evangelicals. We are told by Matthew that after the Crucifixion, dead people popped out of their tomb and began to wander about Jerusalem. Strangely, Luke, Mark and John do not bother to mention this.
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We are told that Herod ordered the slaughter of all boy children of 2 years or younger. Yet there is no mention of this in historical accounts. Murdering babies and zombies cruising the streets are impressive and rare occurrences.

I do not deny that the Jesus tale has had a huge impacts on Western Civilization. There is no way of actually proving it to be true, and the Gospels contradict one another. If Jesus wanted his story to be told accurately, he should have written it down himself.

Modern scholarship is way better than ancient Bible study and should be considered by those who are interested in the actual truth.

There's no reason to believe he ever existed. When all the other miracles and outrageous events have been proven impossible etc. Why would any credence be given to that?

Even to quote Paul etc, where's the irrefutable evidence they existed?
Gospels and scriptures don't prove a Jesus.

Nothing in any holy books etc can be used to establish to truth. It can only be solved by irrefutable evidence. Nothing else.