Little-Acorn
Well-Known Member
As the 11th Circuit's Chief Judge said yesterday, the main issue about Obamacare in court is the "mandate". The program REQUIRES all Americans, with a few very limited exceptions, to sign up and buy their approved insurance; and it imposes hefty penalties on those who don't. No Federal law has ever done this before, and many people (including all three of yesterday's judges) are questioning whether the government has any authority to force people to buy it.
Some are asking whether, if the Courts strike down the mandate, can the rest of the law still stand?
In fact, it almost doesn't matter. Socialist programs like this depend on forcing EVERYBODY to take part - the programs can never stand on their own if people have any choice on whether to participate. Their entire purpose is to take money away from people who don't much need the program's services, and transfer it to people who do need it. Obviously, the former have little reason to take part, especially if the services can be bought elsewhere more competetively. Only people with high needs and low ability to provide, will want to be part of such a program... and if they are the only ones to join, the program will quickly collapse under its own weight. Forcing everybody to sign up, is absolutely mandatory - true for all socialist programs.
So if the mandate is struck down by the Courts (ultimately the Supreme Court), and the rest of the program is "left to stand", it's just a matter of time before the whole thing collapses anyway. The insurance companies will be left holding the bag - having to pay out far more that the remaining participants can possible pay in - which is why those companies insisted that no "severability clause" be included in the Obamacare program.
As District Court Judge Roger Vinson pointed out, if any part of Obamacare is found unconstitutional (as the mandate has been), the entire program must be thrown out. The people who would actually pay the bills - the insurance companies - knew it must be that way.
Yet the Obamanites still insist it doesn't.
Some are asking whether, if the Courts strike down the mandate, can the rest of the law still stand?
In fact, it almost doesn't matter. Socialist programs like this depend on forcing EVERYBODY to take part - the programs can never stand on their own if people have any choice on whether to participate. Their entire purpose is to take money away from people who don't much need the program's services, and transfer it to people who do need it. Obviously, the former have little reason to take part, especially if the services can be bought elsewhere more competetively. Only people with high needs and low ability to provide, will want to be part of such a program... and if they are the only ones to join, the program will quickly collapse under its own weight. Forcing everybody to sign up, is absolutely mandatory - true for all socialist programs.
So if the mandate is struck down by the Courts (ultimately the Supreme Court), and the rest of the program is "left to stand", it's just a matter of time before the whole thing collapses anyway. The insurance companies will be left holding the bag - having to pay out far more that the remaining participants can possible pay in - which is why those companies insisted that no "severability clause" be included in the Obamacare program.
As District Court Judge Roger Vinson pointed out, if any part of Obamacare is found unconstitutional (as the mandate has been), the entire program must be thrown out. The people who would actually pay the bills - the insurance companies - knew it must be that way.
Yet the Obamanites still insist it doesn't.
